Astrologer Robert Gover-The Falling Dollar, Inflation, & Social Security

America's financial woes? Star IQ's Robert Gover:


http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0005853.HTM

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re: Americans anger at the US media:
" part of our national character: Uranus and Mars in Gemini are warriors in Mercury’s cause.

Astrologically, it looks like we’re in for a lengthy period of disinformation from our mainstream media, for Saturn will be lingering conjunct the US Mercury and opposite the US Pluto through 2005 and well into 2006. Saturn will arrive exactly conjunct the US Neptune (and square the US Mars) on August 27, 2009. What is this likely to bring?

The last time Saturn came conjunct the US Neptune was in 1979-80 when we had runaway inflation and the Iranian revolution which toppled the US-installed ruler and took American hostages from the US Embassy in Tehran. This effectively launched the Islamic rebellion against American petrodollar domination of the oil-rich Middle East.

Switching from Dollars to Euros

What is now brewing behind the scenes internationally is a move to switch from dollars to euros as the currency of choice for oil and other international trade. It was Iraq’s switch from dollars to euros in November 2000 that roused Bush to invade Iraq, although you’ll have to google this to verify it because the US media is mum on the subject, preferring to parrot “freedom and democracy” as Bush’s motives. Online you’ll find no small number of articles dealing with how and why the switch from petrodollars to euros is happening, and why it may prompt Bush to invade Iran around 2005.

Add this behind-the-scenes move to what’s likely to happen in Iraq if the people there exercise true democracy and elect anti-American Muslims and/or continue to make guerrilla war on American troops. On August 27, 2009 Saturn will come conjunct the US Neptune. Simultaneously, Uranus will be opposite Saturn and the US Neptune, putting both square the US Mars in Gemini. Also, transiting Mars will be conjunct the US wealth-generating Jupiter and Venus, with transiting Pluto slowly moving opposite from 0 degrees Capricorn.

We should pity whoever wins the presidential election of 2008, I think, for what the planets in 2009 suggest is that the USA will be dealing with financial troubles beyond inflation. By itself inflation is bad enough—-during the late 1970s-80s investors lost money to inflation even when stocks rose. With Bush poised to create private social security accounts by having people invest instead of pay into the social security fund, look out!

The Bush Administration is also likely to add to what is now a record government debt and budget deficit so that by 2009 when those chickens come home to roost, the screams of painful loss will be exceedingly loud. With the dollar expected to continue to fall in value against the euro, Americans are likely to be paying extremely inflated prices by 2009, if not sooner. And with Uranus and Saturn opposite and both hitting the financially-sensitive US Neptune square Mars, the whole US economy is likely to be floundering by then.

Among the many things astrology teaches are these: the only constant is change, and although the planets do not cause our woes, our actions create reactions. "

Aug. 13, 2010
http://www.gaiamind.org/aug13-2010.html

this quote says it all

Michael Sharp and the BoL is all I can add

Pluto third houses...lungs, airborne to the masses, Neptune Chiron in the 4th - "loss" through disease, I think, and I dont even want to think about the 12th house Mars square Pluto.

Did you catch (I think it's on Sludge today) the hemorraghic disease
killing children under 5 in the Congo? - not their mothers or anyone else...just children 5 and under. It's not Ebola. They don;t know what it is.

Isn't it strange that these pandemic diseases, like Aids, originate in African countries? non -caucasion

Then of course there's the Avian diseases which have originated in Asian countries and now has evolved into a mixture of the old Spanish Flu mixed with the Avian. non-caucasion

Did you see this?

'Someone Knows' Avian Pandemic Is Coming' 3 - 16 05
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
dr_p_doyle@hotmail.com


"In addition, finding out that a lab developed version of the Spanish flu created in 1933 genome sequence was recently found on a pig farm in pigs in S. Korea tells me "someone" may be brewing up a nasty influenza. Human infection is a "jump" away from pigs."

http://www.rense.com/general63/dder.htm
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And then,yesterday, I asked someone what they thought Kissinger meant when he said :

"Yes, many people will die when the New World Order is established, but it will be a much better world for those who survive." -Henry Kissinger Evians, France - 1991 Bilderberg Conference

One wonders exactly what that means. Eugenics again? Genocide?

and they answered:

"I expect it will mean an artificial pandemic genetically engineered for specific DNA "

Eloriel, this is such a nightmare, it's difficult to believe it's real - but it is real. It's happening. We, astrologers, have seen it coming - all of it, the devaluation of the dollar, the destruction of America's laws, the wars, but it's still hard to take it all in.

It's like being frozen in place watching the horror.

I've missed out on a few things, apparently. I had no idea Kissinger said such a thing. There are some very faint rumours on the jungle drums about this sort of thing (a "trimming down of the world's population"). But it's out there - I've seen a few threads, or posts to that effect.

Like the rest of us, I absolutely believe we're heading over a cliff. With Bush behind the wheel. He's going to do it to us, in a sense he's just speeding up the inevitable.

If Kerry had been elected, disaster might have been postponed a big, but not by much. We're headed - for the abyss :hangover:

If we are headed over the abyss, why would they be selling tee shirts like this at http://www.elftrance.com/ AND why would I buy it? I did so on specific instructions from Captain Sally!



The holy spirit is watching over us and the first responders are getting ready! Do not despair, our time to celebrate is coming.

Thanks for the encouraging words, A.

If one has to choose an attitude, a spirit of optimism is without doubt the best way to go.

However......

I'm extremely dubious about feeling cheerful about the near future. I don't know if we can look forward to a time of celebration....if that's the word for it. I tend to believe that it will be more like relief, amazement that we're still alive after the scourge.

Like the Phoenix which rises from the ashes, I have always believed that people have an amazing ability to survive life's harshest blows.

I DO see us on the path to destruction, which is so needless in my opinion. Americans in particular, really need to wake up to what's happening in the world. Life keeps tapping Joe Average on the shoulder, and he just keeps shrugging the finger away.

Old Chinese Proverb: "He who fails to heed the warnings, gets hammered". (not really, I just made that up)

Here's my take on what's going to happen. I believe something of a staggering magnitude will happen in the next few years. Something like a massive earthquake, or a comet striking the earth (less likely)(see the Three Days & Nights of Darkness scenario).

I have less faith in the scenario of a Nuclear War, or poisonous gases unleashed on the world, or deliberate plagues unleashed on the world, or unintentional plagues like a new disease.

I believe the change will come suddenly, not a slow atrophy like the US slowly going broke or a currency crisis, or China choking us off financially.

There are too many people saying the same thing, from a variety of venues. I also believe a huge portion of mankind will perish. The fortunate people who are left will be truly fortunate.

Just my humble take on it:smoke:

Still, I love the shirt!

an awful lot of astrologers and spiritual people wearing that !

Meanwhile...don;t ask me why I'm of such a serious tone - but go read this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=3322&mesg_id=5486&page=

and pay attention to what young Mr. NeoBuckeye says...he's up and coming.

By the way, Sally believes Kissinger is referring to engineered pandemics.

Hey what the hell. It was nice while it lasted :)

To eliminate them.

My speculation only.

not much else to say on that.

but Mother Earth I think is going to shake some off too. She's had enough human pollution I think.

And they thought Noah's ark was a myth.