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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:14 PM
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Pluto and the Fed
more: http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0008354.HTM

Pluto and the Fed (Reserve)

Although astronomers have downgraded Pluto from a planet to a moon, it has a very interesting astrological history. Since astrology studies the effects of planetary cycles and angles, it hardly matters whether Pluto is a planet or a moon. The Earth’s Moon has distinct effects on us here on Earth, and so does Pluto. The main difference is that the Moon is the nearest and swiftest moving celestial body studied by astrologers and Pluto the most distant and slowest moving.

Right now Pluto is in the last few degrees of Sagittarius conjunct the Galactic Center of the Milky Way and within orb of an opposition to where it was when Congress created the Federal Reserve System in December 1913. Most Americans believe the government issues currency, cash and credit into our economy, but in 1913 Congress privatized this process by turning it over to private bankers, members of The Fed. Since then, currency has been issued as debt owned by taxpayers. In effect, the government borrows a few more billion dollars for, say, the war in Iraq and taxpayers get stuck with the bill owed the bankers of the Fed, at ever-compounding interest. This is known as the national or federal debt. The IRS is the Fed bankers’ collector.

It has been found by astrologers that Pluto has to do with changes that are at first hidden, unknown, not yet manifested into our material reality. The conception of a child is a good example. We usually don't know for sure when conception takes place. We get the dramatic manifestation of that conception when the child is born. Pluto conjuncts the Galactic Center once about every 246 years, give or take about a decade before or after, due to Pluto's erratic orbit. When it arrives at this area of the heavens, what we know for sure is that we're entering a period of major change. Examples:

1514: The years after Columbus "discovered" America and Spanish priests and conquistadors spanned out through the Caribbean and beyond, bringing Christian salvation to the native population and shipping gold and silver back to Spain. What was unknown then but has since been discovered by archeological digs is that millions of Native Americans perished during this period from diseases imported from Europe to which they had no immunity.

1760-1761: This was a transition period from the end of the French and Indian War into the revolutionary fervor that eventually produced the American Revolution. “Taxation without representation” is what most history books emphasize about this period, but if you dig deeper, you’ll find that it was the lack of a currency that made life in the American colonies so difficult. The British rulers insisted the colonists use British money but it was in such short supply in the colonies, it greatly hampered the commerce necessary to function. Every time the colonists created their own form of money, the “Lords of Trade and Plantations” were dispatched from London to destroy it. By the mid-1700s, the British Government owed the Bank of England (prototype of the Fed’s debt-based system) 140,000,000 pounds. The King did not have enough taxpayers to service this national debt, so he looked across the Atlantic to the colonies for help. It was at this time that the colonies were experimenting with the issuance of their own debt-free money, and were not happy being saddled with the King’s war debts.


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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 06:42 PM
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1. looks interesting BUT
Pluto is not now considered a moon, but a dwarf planet. A moon circles a planet, not the sun.

I'm going to read this because I am interested in astrology and macroeconomics. Thanks!!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:01 PM
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2. yeah, but to me Pluto still 'kicks ass' - :)
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:28 PM
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3. Roh roh roh ! What you said.
Totally.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:28 AM
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4. I really like StarIQ's columns.. :-^D
In fact, I was getting ready to post Pluto and the Fed when I checked out your post.

The nice thing about the authors are the links to the charts of what or whom they are talking about. A good learning experience. I've also gotten a personal reading or two through a few writers on their web sie.

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:02 PM
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8. yes, they have good contributors and also astro.com is
a good one for charts, etal. :)
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:21 PM
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5. Interesting, and thankx for posting
important information.

Just what is the Fed?
How powerful are they, and what have they done to the US monetary system?

We're about to find out.
I believe the entire system is broke. They are scrambling to figure out what to do because they were too flamboyant, too generous, too reckless and too careless.
When I'm watching the current meltdown, I can't help but think of Dick Cheney who famously said, "Deficits don't matter" meaning, we are SO powerful, SO strong SO impervious that we're gonna go for broke and break the bank.
Well break it they did and now they're finding out that there actually WAS a limit to the looting. It wasn't infinite after all.

The Fed is currently unable to fix the problem it's too big.

2008 should be a very interesting year.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:54 PM
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6. The Fed
is our property owner. They OWN us. I don't know if you were asking rhetorically? There's more, if your question was genuine curiosity.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 07:09 AM
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7. First wave hits them on my bday (great present!) and then two more will
pound them. Interesting to see what will happen, and what will be revealed next year when things come to light.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 08:51 PM
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9. I didn't give this post that much attention until today...lol!
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 09:07 PM by Dover
Suddenly it's much more interesting...after the market fall.

I do take exception with some of the astrological info in the article, if I've understood him correctly.
For instance, I wouldn't say that the Uranus/Pluto square begins this year unless you use a very wide orb. It comes into play in 2012.

However Uranus IS opposed to Saturn beginning this year (in fact Nov. 4th - election day - is one such trigger time for that transit). And interestingly enough, that opposition will also be setting off the North/South nodes of the Fed chart and also squares the Fed's 9th house Venus. And transiting Pluto will be Conjuncting the Fed's midheaven and squaring the Ascendent too, at that time.

I think if anyone is interested in the subject of the Fed and its astrological chart they might also want to check out Nolle's writings. He's a libertarian (as I'm assuming this author is too) and has been tracking the Fed situation for some time. Here's a link to his latest comments for this year (he mentions the Fed and the elections as well), but there's more in his archives too.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=59886&mesg_id=59886

Federal Reserve Chart (inner circle)
http://www.stariq.com/Main/Articles/P0008359.htm
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 02:36 PM
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10. yes, concur about the Ur/Plu sq-very wide orb
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