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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:47 AM
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Series of dreams about * last night
I've never dreamed about *, although I have had a few prophetic dreams. After one such dream, which occurred in two different forms one night many years ago, I opened my Bible to my daily reading and found I was on the story of Joseph interpreting Pharaoh's dreams, in particular the quote about when you dream the same dream in two different forms, it means it will "certainly happen." So here's what I dreamed last night:

I was on a large yacht with friends and family and * showed up. He looked terrible--skin pale and wrinkled, eyes damp, hair frazzled. I looked him directly in the eyes and said, "God does not love you. You are condemned for killing millions of people. You are condemned for.." and I spoke a list of crimes to him. He looked terrified, like a cornered animal. But not remorseful. Just fully understanding that he would pay for his crimes. Then the scene shifted and I was telling people about my encounter with *, and then he showed up again, and I repeated the litany of "God does not love you, you are condemned for..." And he reacted in the same way--not remorseful, but terrified. Then the scene shifted four or five times, and I was with different people, and each time we were given the messsage, "George W. Bush will be held accountable." The message was delivered over and over. Then I woke up, and the clock read 2:16.
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wickfordbard Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:57 AM
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1. Makes sense astrlogically
the Sabian Symbol for the recent eclipse is: 18º Aquarius:

A man's secret motives are being publically unmasked.

Let's hope he gets held accountable for what he's done.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:41 PM
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2. I hope the part about him killing millions doesn't come true
although he's approaching that number in Iraq, isn't he?

It's terrible to watch bush and his gang of thugs get away with their crimes. I pray they are held accountable. I hope that aspect of your dream is true.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:37 PM
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4. Katrina plus Iraq plus Afghanastan plus
the United States plus lives maimed plus who knows. Yes, it is millions.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:42 PM
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6. good point. And hopefully he'll be held accountable BEFORE he does any more damage
damage is such an understatement for mass murder.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:57 PM
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7. Not Bush alone, but I think the Bush family has passed the
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:56 PM
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13. Plus those who might have lived if global warming
had been addressed in the past eight years. It could be millions. Easily.
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:42 PM
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19. Don't forget his death row record in Texas...
... some of the people may have been not guilty, but because of evidence tampering and dirty cops in Houston, they had no chance of an appeal. I am against the death penalty in all cases (I have a personal story about that) and I count the hundreds who died here as part of his death toll.

You should also count the poor who have died here in Texas in hospitals because of a law he wrote that allows the hospital to kick you out if you don't have any money or insurance.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/14/151930/63

This man has killed many, and from my interpretation of the eclipse, he, Cheney and others in his administration are going to be held accountable. The time of reckoning is at hand.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 10:30 AM
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21. Exactly.
I oppose the death penalty too. A movie changed my mind about the matter forever. That was about 25 years ago.

If we add jobs killed to his debacle, the numbers mount >
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2851267
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mysticalchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 01:45 PM
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3. Interesting ....
... indeed. I do believe he (and all of us, actually) will be held accountable for our actions. So, even though we may never get to see it and in our eyes justice hasn't been served, I know in my heart that he will have to account to his higher self, his soul and the Creator for what he has done in this incarnation.

(I like how he's referred to in this forum as just plain old *)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:38 PM
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5. If the world is to heal
I think it is of utmost importance for both Bush AND Cheney to be held responsible for what they have done. To let them walk would remain a tear in our hearts and history forever.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:02 PM
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8. I do hope he is held accountable and that your dream is prophetic.
It's the only way this nation can repay the debt we owe to the people he has caused to suffer. I don't believe God doesn't love him though, only that he's very disappointed in him.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:10 PM
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9. I wonder..
could there be 2 realities in which we exist to have different purposes?

What I mean is that the 3-D reality of our present life, we are acting out a personal reality, and in the higher dimensions we are acting and contributing to the collective in the micro and macrocosm of each and one of us?

In our present life experience, I think we will hold those like bush & cheney accountable...i.e. judging their actions
(ooooh- and how I have been waiting for Conyers to start)

but in the higher dimensions, as part of our collective it is not a judgmental matter but a collective of choices each and one of us makes so we can all vibrate higher? It is certainly not set in stone, so every moment with each or our choices the collective direction and/or vibration changes.

In which case, considering how many people, have been shaken awake, if you will - that no-one exists in a vacuum - perhaps bush and cheney have done a great service to the collective.

the Yin & Yang

As far as I am concerned, in the above collective scenario - they have done enough - and as for my personal contribution to the collective, I choose, we do not need the remaining 30% in this country to vibrate higher.

I don't know, does it make sense?

Thank you for dreaming your dream ;)
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:55 PM
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10. I have to believe Bush is here doing his purpose
regrettably, his purpose is to force folks to chose love over hate to encourage the accession.


it's the only way I can bear to look at the man.....
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:16 PM
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11. Yes, I agree with you, AZ Dem. He has played his
role (THE DESTROYER) very well. Because of his actions, our country will be forced to make many positive changes. We will have to find a way to heal the scars caused by wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He and his cronies (Cheney and his Halliburton, the oil companies, the companies created by Poppy Bush) have stolen the assets of the US and brought us to the point of bankruptcy. It's hard to see this as a good thing, and I struggle with my feelings toward these people. As Rumpel and MysticalChick said above, they will be judged by their higher selves. It's also hard to imagine that God loves these people, but we are all children of God and I believe that God has perfect love for all, no matter what evil deeds they may have committed.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:22 PM
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23. God can love him
But it doesn't mean I have to.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:25 PM
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12. Hopefully retribution will be sooner than later.
And I want to watch. I want to see it in my lifetime. And not just him. He has had many accomplices in his treachery and murder. Justice must be served.
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okasha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:52 PM
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14. Something just struck me about your dream.
That initial sentence, "God does not love you," sounds almost like a ritual of abjuration. It's almost as if it might be a formula a spiritual authority might pronounce upon rendering someone up to judgement or punishment--an excommunication or removal of spiritual protection. In effect, "God has abandoned you." Any idea what its origin might be?
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:06 AM
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15. My thought about it
* believes he is loved by God because he is fighting a "holy" war and doing God's will. Yes, I think it was probably formulaic, because the rest of the litany was almost biblical. But I also felt there was a phrase that was intended but not spoken, that the entire meaning was "God does not love you for what you have done." That God may love him, but what he's done is most certainly not the reason.

Also the pronouncement about * being held accountable was repeated as a formula 4 or 5 times with the emphasis on WILL. "George W. Bush WILL be held accountable." As in 'most certainly.'
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skater314159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 03:51 PM
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20. The image I had was of
someone washing their hands... specifically like on this tombstone:


God has washed his hands of *.

Also, notice how many times he was given the opportunity to say he was sorry, be penitent, or to show remorse - and EACH TIME he did not; this resonates with what I see in the eclipse. God and the Universe are angry he speaks using their names and then does such evil - and he doesn't even ASK for forgiveness.

He thinks he doesn't need forgiveness, because he has done no wrong in his mind.

God is washing his hands to show us the blood is *'s, not ours (the American peoples') or Gods' doing, but ONLY *'s.

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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 11:47 AM
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16. Could it be the W represents the country as a whole
Edited on Mon Feb-11-08 11:55 AM by crikkett
and we all will be held accountable, for putting him in charge and allowing his crimes to occur?

On edit - after all it wasn't just the pharaoh who was to face 7 years of famine, it was all of Egypt...
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:54 PM
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22. Remember: the American people never elected *
He lost in 2000 and he lost by an even greater majority in 04.

I wouldn't blame the majority of the American people. We all have a shared responsibility but we will individually only suffer for our own lack of courage or exercise of good judgment. The fact that FL came up with an ex-felon list and used numerous other techniques to steal the election and the fact that the voting machines and all kinds of other techniques were used to tilt the vote in 04 are not direct responsibility of the American people.

The wheat will be sorted out from the chaff over time I'm sure. Karma involves an exact measure of our actions in life, as Jesus said it pays attention to every jot and tittle.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 12:16 PM
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17. Reminiscent of a spell
To say things several times to manifest them--the rule of three times three times three (ooh and 2:16 adds up to 9). It seems you were playing the part of the messenger, to inform him of his transgressions and announce his fate. Very nice! I (and, I'm sure, a lot of other people) would love to do the same--look him in the eye and announce that he will be held accountable for his actions.

And I agree with the other folks on this thread, that * is playing his part to help urge us forward in our gradual awakening to live more compassionate, Spirit-filled lives. But I sure do have a hard time picturing him as a loving being of light, helping us! :scared: He (his spirit) is a good actor.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:20 PM
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18. Thanks for interpreting
I thought the numbers were significant, but hadn't thought to add them up. I've thought from the very beginning that * and his cadre's purpose was exactly that, but that doesn't change the fact that murder in any form is wrong. * could have chosen to lead this nation to a higher plane in a positive way. The end would have been the same, but the means would have been moral.
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Angel Wings Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 PM
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24. I agree
I believe there were choices that were made and things didn't have to be as bad as they are. Things could also have been much worse too but we acted on our choices-whether by physical action or putting the energy to counter what was happening. And, I believe this helped others who were clouded by the lies able to finally see and start choosing to put out countering energy to this evil also(and I do believe it is evil).

I sure hope that this dream will show to have some form of farsightedness as your Castro dream seemed to.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:11 PM
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25. Pray that he is delivered from his evil. (And an odd dream of my own...)
A few days ago I dreamt that I was at a college, and there were several truckloads of young soldiers there. I was joking with them, saying that I respect them for their lingo, such as "blivet" and "bohica". We all laughed and jibed, but I noticed that they were loading and priming some oddly advanced rifle/carbine weapons, then placing them in a shallow fountain pool. They were visible, but only if you looked. This was happening all around the campus, where there were many fountains. I took a couple of people aside, one of which was a woman I know, and whispered the word "Massacre" into their ear. The soldiers were busy going about their business as I did this. It took great stealth to not tip them off that I was trying to blow their cover.

Earth is a place of learning, water is an important element (of change?), and Bush has been called "Blivet" before. Bohica means bend over, here it comes again.

What's up with this? I do not necessarily attach and specific meaning to it, as not all of my dreams come true (like anyone else). I've waffled for a few days about sharing this. I do not want to cause alarm. It could be a merely personal issue, not national. :shrug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 02:59 PM
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26. What does "Blivet" mean?
And what is "priming" a weapon? What is your position on gun control?
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-19-08 03:24 PM
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27. Blue!
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