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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 05:53 PM
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Talk about that Mars/Pluto opposition!
It is always interesting seeing how transits work out in the world. Last week there was a Mars/Pluto opposition, and today, it comes to light that my governor is most likely under indictment d/t investigation by FBI and IRS exposing a prostitution ring. My gov had previously prosecuted this ring in his previous elected position and had a stellar reputation as being a man of integrity. It truly is a sad day in my state and I feel sorrow for his family.

This is a shocker. Is this what we are to expect from Pluto transits (esp. when they involve Mars?).
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Idylle Moon Dancer Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 09:23 PM
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1. well, prostitution seems to me like something that would fall
under Pluto's "jurisdiction,"
also secrets and the exposure thereof, although I wonder
if the exposure has more to do with Mars being involved.

In my experience Pluto transits are wild and hairy,
painful, cathartic, and dare I say, joyful;
what with me having Pluto hovering around the empty leg
of my T-square. At first it was extraordinarily painful,
until I heeded advice about gracefully accepting the
changes that Pluto brings. Now I feel like I'm headed in
the right direction, almost like I am completing myself.

Overall, I haven't been this happy since I was a small child.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 10:30 PM
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2. Spitzer? I am just sick about this
My mother, still in NY, worships the guy. She will be horrified. I just feel like it's really sad. I wonder if he was set up. He had a future, maybe still has, despites this. I hope.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-10-08 11:30 PM
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3. It's strange, but I usually really "get" something (positive) out of Mars-Pluto opps.
And squares. If I can keep my anger under control, which I failed to do this time around. I was heckled on my blog and lost it and threatened to quit (again). But later I was inspired to re-evaluate why I decided to stay connected to this blog in the first place, so there were some gains there. Nothing on par with the Spizer thing, of course.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:41 AM
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4. It's not over yet
there's still time. B-)
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 09:54 AM
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5. I was wondering about this
Perhaps karmic, in this lifetime, since he sent many to jail for doing this same thing?

I don't know......................

Is what is good for the goose, good for the gander?

I can dig conspiracy theories, but this seems like pure stupidity on his part. Let's just say, *if* he is guilty of doing the same thing that he prosecuted people for, I'm glad it was exposed.

But I wondered if the timing was an astrology thing.
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:24 AM
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6. Mars Pluto
While exposing scandals are usually under the domain of Neptune and eclipses, they certainly can be under Pluto. Pluto/Mars is classic rape, prostitution, sexual improprieties of all sorts. I'd like to see the governor's natal chart to see if he has critical points around 1 Cardinal (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Cap.)
That would certainly make him "vulnerable" to the Mars Pluto crossfire.

Also, likely, is something in his chart around 20 Fixed (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius). That recent eclipse on 2/7 exploded the eclipse point being right next to Mercury Rx, Transiting Neptune (revealed scandals) and Chiron!

If anyone finds his chart, please publish it!

Man...
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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:39 AM
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7. Got his birthday
June 10, 1959, Bronx, NY - no time

Looks like his critical 10th harmonic chart (career and public standing) got blasted by the recent eclipse with Uranus right on his NEPTUNE at the solar midheaven (fall from power) and square to a tight Sun/Pluto conjunction.

Man...

We do need a birth time to fine tune this.

His natal show a lot of possible arrogance with Venus/Mars/Moon/Uranus all in Leo. I just had a client with something like that in his natal chart. I warned him, "ahem... you might have a tendency to stray (Neptune/infidelity)"

He did

His wife came to see me two weeks later, I told her, "Dear, I think I know what you are going to talk about". He did stray, she did throw him out.

My opinion of what brought the Gov. down was the recent Pluto passes of his late Gemini Mercury (ruler) and the trining Neptune transit to his Sun from the solar 5th house...

GET THIS: His 8th harmonic (sexual proclivities) has natal Venus/Sun/Neptune/Mars/Moon at 1, 2, 6, 15, 18 CAPRICORN. Bombarded by transiting Pluto/Mars. Interesting. All opposite CHIRON, wound. Fatal wound.

Just think what he HAS done that isn't known... yet.


Much more will come when we get a birth time.
Anyone else see anything?





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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 02:39 PM
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8. Transiting Saturn retrograded back to his progressed Pluto,
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 03:14 PM by Ojai Person
just within orb as of the past day or so. What do you want to bet that the wiretapping (or his hijinx?) began back in late September when Saturn first transited his natal and progressed Plutos. It will all come out after Saturn goes direct close to his natal Pluto in early May.

The thing with Mars is that it triggered it by going to 2 degrees (degree of progressed Pluto), after having opposed Pluto. Pallas Athena is also at 2 degrees, saying something about integrity and fairness being what flushed this out.

With all that Mars Venus Moon in Leo, the guy feels entitled to his sexual appetites and has a lot of pride in his prowess as a prosecutor and as a "lover".

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ricochetastroman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-12-08 02:50 PM
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11. Exactly! Good stuff... n/t
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 07:22 PM
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9. Commander AWOL "legalized' torture with his veto on Saturday
in perfect evil darkside occult timing with Mars-Pluto.

Ptoooey.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 10:41 PM
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10. Don't forget about
those two young girls shot, the losses in just this past week in Iraq (American and Iraqi) and the tensions/warfare in Kenya. And Darfur, remember Darfur? The land the world forgot.
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