Al Gore and Astrology

To begin with, Happy Birthday Al Gore! :woohoo:

Okay, now on to the astrology and the question at hand: Will Al Gore step in, accept the Nomination and run as the Democratic Nominee for President? Or, barring that, would he act as a broker of sorts?

His chart actually doesn't seem to say much (or I'm just really tired after a very long flight) when it comes to his Secondary Progression (or SP) picture. His SP Moon is moving into it's Balsamic Phase which is a time of Endings, of clearing out the Old and making way for the New. Both Hillary and Barack have their SP Moons moving into a Full Moon Phase, a time of Reaching One's Goals. Hillary has hers first in January 2010, then Barack follows with his in March 2012. Oftentimes, one can see the seeds of a SP Full Moon a year in advance, so reaching one's goals before the actual Full Moon isn't uncommon. And Gore's Full Moon? It was during the 2000 Election, a contest he undoubtedly won.

Interestingly, though, he'll experience his Secondary Progressed New Moon in 2016. If he were to run for President and win, he could ideally serve two terms and, in leaving Office for the last time in 2016, find himself starting a New Life without politics. If one wanted, that could be a beautiful example of the SP New Moon's clearing out the Old Life and helping one begin something totally New. He would leave having hit the pinnacle and, realizing that, leave it all behind having scratched that itch once and for all.

Now, he does have Secondary Progressed Venus square his Sun right now, but, as I mentioned in an earlier Thread, that Progression ends, for all intents and purposes, in October. So he may seem appealing right now, but, as has been the case the past year, I don't know if he'll necessarily take the bait and try to be what we collectively want him to be.

So, I suspect the answer to this will be found in his Transits, I believe.

To begin with, Tr Pluto retrograding back to station conjunct his Jupiter, so the Masses (Pluto) may pressure him to reconsider his present non-action. With Jupiter being touched by Pluto, he may actually work diligently behind the scenes (Pluto) to counsel and advise the Candidates much like a psychologist (Jupiter) would do. Sounds more like a Broker than a Nominee to me.

But wait. Remember that Tr Uranus station conjunct Hillary's Moon and in opposition to Barack's Mars? He'll be square Gore's Natal Uranus. Just the thing needed to upend the ol' apple cart of life.

When Gore first announced a run for the Presidency in 1987, Tr Uranus was within the orb of opposing his Natal Uranus. When he was first sworn in as Vice President in 1993, Uranus was within orb of forming a Yod with his Natal Uranus and his Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium. Sworn in the second time in 1997? Uranus was in direct opposition to his Ascendant. In other words, Uranus seems to have a hand in Big Events in Gore's life and career.

Over the last few years, Gore seems to have hit his stride doing what he's doing: educating people about Global Warming as well as the attention he puts to the other business interests he's constantly stirring in his great, big pot. The Uranus station square his Natal Uranus may interrupt all that by asking him "What are you doing with your life and is it possible to do more?" and, truth be told, once one runs for President, it really is like a drug one wants to hit again and again. Politics never really leaves one's blood especially if one is born into a political family.

And the current situation -- if reports are to be believed and there are those urging him to step in -- is the perfect opportunity for Uranus to step in with this square and, despite Gore's assertions that he's happy where he is and doing what he's doing, ask "Really? Are you REALLY happy or do you perhaps maybe want to have another go at it?" Squares tend to tap us on the shoulder and, even though we're completely planning 100% on going from Point A to Point B, redirect our course. Not take us off-course, mind you, but only force us to deviate from the direct course we were on.

So, as Tr Uranus will be stationing conjunct Hillary's Moon and opposite Barack's Mars, he'll be square Gore's Natal Uranus and, once again, within orb of quincunx his Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium. And when will that quincunx to that stellium be exact? Around Inauguration Day when Tr Uranus meets up with Venus and they both quincunx his Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium. And I only bring up this Inauguration Day quincunx because it apes what he experienced when first sworn in as Vice President.

Elsewhere in the chart, Saturn isn't throwing any monkey-wrenches into anything (as far as I could see), Mars will be conjunct his Ascendant as the Uranus square Uranus begins and then will move to conjunct his Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium before being trine his MC. And, as the Uranus station ends, the station of Pluto conjunct his Jupiter begins. I almost feel as if the Universe is forcing him, kicking and screaming, no doubt, into rethinking his current path.

In short, I don't know if he'll get in or not. There's both a fistful of Yes and a fistful of No in his chart (the No being Solar Arc Pluto leaving the = to his Sun -- which gave him his power and ability to manifest the success of the past year -- and now be = his Neptune, a contact that is a bit more sketchy when it comes to seeing things realistically and clearly).

I suspect this is a conversation we'll be having over the next couple of months. If someone wanted to force me to give a time frame for some decision or movement on Gore's part, I'd look at the early- to mid-June period as Tr Jupiter leaves the quincunx to his Uranus and squares his MC, Tr Venus meets up with Tr Sun to conjunct his Natal Uranus and Mars makes his energizing pass conjunct his powerful Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium. The Mars pass is the kicker for me as it'll energize him in a way that may, as the Ruler of his Aries Sun, reawaken and bring to a rolling boil the competitive juices in his innate nature.

Oh, and P.S., Al Gore's Natal Moon sits at 3 Capricorn, the same degree as Hillary's SP Sun and Barack's SP Midheaven. (cue Twilight Zone music)

(edited to add the dates of his first run and his two swearing ins)

Thanks for all the work you put into it. I'm not really qualified to comment, but I'm glad you are keeping your astrological eyes on Al Gore. He is such a gift to the USA and would have been a gift to the world had not the election been stolen from him in 2000. Is there an astrological explanation for how that happened? (for a non-professional astrologer)

Kind of jives with what I've been getting WRT Gore in the last few months.

One question though, what is a Secondary Progression? Is that like a Saturn Return? I don't think I've come across that term before (man, the more I dig into this stuff, the less I know! :silly:).

is Biblical in origin.

Some believe that the wise men were astrologers, otherwise why would they be chasing that star around in the first place?

I once studied with someone who was fluent in Hebrew and Aramaic and you wouldn't believe how many astro references there were in the original language of the first 5 books of the Bible which have been edited out over time.

One that miraculously survived is ". . .and for each year we ascribe a day. . ." from Ecclesiastes.

Astrologers have interpreted this to mean the following.

If you've ever been around newborns, though we tend to project all sorts of extraneous stuff on them, they're pretty much psychic sponges for the first three months or so. In as much as they are taking in all sorts of environmental influences, they are also taking in the movement of the planets and it hot wires them for their life experience.

So if a baby has a whacky aunt comes to visit on their 5th day of life, they'll experience a similar vibration in kindergarden.

They are fated patterns of energies and growth. How we respond to them involves free will though.

Transits are astrological weather patterns. We can rally to face them and the elements or cower inside.

If we cower inside in the face of Progressions, we may end up with a Greyhound Bus or a meteorite plowing through our living rooms.

I once said that to a client and her jaw dropped to the floor. She said, "I once had a Greyhound bus plow through my living room."

LOL

Wait. . . on edit I'll see if I can find a funny photo with a meteorite reference.

I've heard the Three Wise Men were actually astrologers, and it makes a lot of sense considering they came from the "East", which is where astrology was born.

I kind of got an "A ha!" moment reading that. I have had more than one Greyhound bus plow through my living room, LOL. Thanks for the info! :hug:

is taking up his time, and frankly, I wouldn't think he desires to get in the middle of this mess. And mess, it is. One candidate has brought a lot of new interest to politics for many -- and it has the flavor of sports team advocacy. Much of the nastiness will subside by June 15th. At that point, cooler heads will prevail, and whatever is slated to occur will occur.
At this juncture, I've decided to stay out of the fray.
I have a feeling Al Gore concurs.

I'm reminded of the old Native adage, of no one having walked in his moccasins.

He can do what he wants. He seems happy to be doing what he is doing and to have transcended the political fray.

When he calls himself "a recovering politician" I have to laugh.

He can do what he wants. Given how badly he was roasted.

Bless him and his family.

The astrological indications for the possibility of him entertaining the idea are there, though. He may truly enjoy where he is and have no intention of going back into Politics. But that square from Uranus may -- out-of-the-blue and without any effort on Gore's part, as is the case oftentimes with Uranus -- cause him to reconsider his thoughts, his plans and, after much consideration, change his mind. And with that Mars (ruler of his Sun) making his journey conjunct his Pluto/Saturn/Mars stellium, he may discover those old competitive let's-get-to-work juices flowing. But we won't know until after-the-fact, of course.

But it is fascinating that Al, Barack, Dean and Hillary are all being hit by that Uranus station: Al with him square his Uranus, Barack with him opposition his Mars, Dean with him 1 degree and change square his Mars and Hillary with him conjunct her Moon. And, like a flash of lightning, Uranus CAN come in and change the landscape in the twinkling of an eye. To look at the nature of the contacts being made is to get a sense of who's left standing and who's as mad as a hornet's nest.

And, at the end of the day and with that Pluto station conjunct his Jupiter, Gore may decide to exert his political force by working behind-the-scenes as a Power Broker/Psychologist (very Pluto-Jupiter, in my view) to bring about some kind of agreement.

As with all things, only time will tell.

I've a weird aversion to doing so. I think it has to do with the fact that astrologically, there is no way * should have won again in '04.

And he didn't. It was manipulated entirely.

So I'm a bit jaded is all.

Glad you're doing so dear.

best

the ego around becoming prez-and an election stolen from him--he may, yet, have to lead.

you too, Stella.
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You both have turned me into a real astro fan. I had heard the astro-connection about the three wise men, makes perfect sense. (One can only wonder at the knowledge that was stripped away from the Bible overtime, we were robbed of some incredible info by the Council of Nicea.)

I find so much encouragement from this new possibility, Gore and Edwards have always been my first choices. It has been a continual reassessment for me as a dem, like many others I'm sure, so if the last resort option by the party must be deployed because of deadlock, I can't think of anyone else I'd support with a renewed heart. Let me add, that no matter where the honorable Al Gore serves his country, we will be blessed....be it in the green effort, or regaining the seat that was stripped away in 2000. The more we know about Gore, the more we realize what we were robbed of. Major kudos and much respect to that man!

Thanks for your tireless efforts, ccpup!
:woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

His Secondary Progressed Sun will be starting a sextile with his Natal Sun in February, just two weeks after the Inauguration. It will also be trine his SP Neptune, so perhaps he'll find it easier to inspire people than he did in the past?

Haven't been around lately due to work and other stuff. This was great to read. And it sure will be an interesting year, won't it? How will it all play out?