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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:18 PM
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quick thought re: Uranus and sending Light
One of the more unfortunate possible manifestations with Uranus conjunct one's Moon (as in the case of Hillary) is the health of her Mother being at risk. Especially as it transits her Fourth House of Home and Family. With that in mind, it would be a good idea to send Light to both Dorothy Rodham and Hillary. As I don't have her Mother's exact birth info (some say June, others say March, but all agree it's 1919), she may have Uranus on her Sun which could also drastically affect one's health or one's ability to live comfortably on a daily basis.

Secondly, a most unfortunate possibility with Uranus opposite one's Mars (as well as Mars conjunct one's Sun), as in the case of Barack, is shocking, unexpected, ruthless violence. This is compounded with that Mars in his 11th House of Large Groups (among other things). Whether one supports him or not, wrapping him and those he loves in Light wouldn't be a bad idea.

I had strongly hesitated sharing this for fear of giving the possibility of it unnecessary Power, but awareness of it's potential and Light being sent in the above cases may be enough to invite the Angels to their aid.

Just a thought.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 02:58 PM
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1. How about framing it as though you've magically neutralized any potential
negative eventuality by posting your concerns on the totally Uranian internet.

Let's send her soothing energies.

Uranus can be very rough on the nerves.

No one would want to see their kid involved in this sort of struggle.

May her mom be well and at peace.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:15 PM
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2. I'm on board for
sending Protection....for both candidates and their families .
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:27 PM
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3. me too
peace
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:31 PM
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16. That sounds like a good plan.
I'll join you in this. :toast:
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 03:50 PM
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4. as I recall correctly perhaps
my planets were in that neighborhood last year...it did hit hard

I'll add my light asking Uranus to be gentle on them.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:03 PM
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5. If at all possible, rumpel
I would like to know how those aspects manifested in your life. No need to be specific, if it's private or an unpleasant memory, but this is the first experience I've had with either Uranus conjunct Moon or Uranus opposition Mars and it may help me understand how the energies COULD play out.

Of course, your chart is different than theirs, I imagine. But a read of the energies as they affected you could still be useful.

Only if you feel comfortable and you're welcome to PM me if that's easier.

Oh, and if it's any consolation, I have Uranus conjunct my Sun and North Node as well as opposition my Jupiter/Uranus in 2 years. This upcoming station will be 1 degree from opposite my Pluto, though.

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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-03-08 05:48 PM
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6. I'll join you in your efforts on behalf of both candidates.
I ask that the Universe surround all members of the candidates' families with protective light and energy to help them to manage the stress of the campaign and to keep them physically safe. (I'm including John McCain's family in the latter part.) (This or something better for the highest good of all involved.)

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 03:30 PM
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7. If you saw Larry King Live the night he intrviewed Michelle O.
You might have noticed the haunted look in her eyes when the discussion of Colin Powell's wife not letting Colin run the Presidential race in 1996 or 2000.

There is one and only one reason that Mrs. Powell wouldn't let Colin run - and I am often afraid for Barack.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 04:38 PM
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8. on further relflection
and with more conversations with really, REALLY experienced astrologers behind me, I'm beginning to think the Uranus opposite Barack's Mars is going to be a very strong note of frustration and rage blasting their way into his speeches, his interviews, his off-hand comments to people he meets on the campaign trail. I HOPE the energy manifests that way rather than it's more sinister possibility. I trust that'll be the case.

And for Barack the lightning quick flashes of temper will be no big deal. There one minute, gone the next like a violent Summer storm. For those on the receiving end, though, it'll be upsetting, disruptive and more than likely change their views of him. When two planets like Mars and Uranus meet, it's a bit like throwing a match into a pile of bone dry hay. A fire WILL, undoubtedly, erupt.

He may also, being full of confidence and sense of his "rightness", challenge those in authority to do X, Y or Z only with disastrous results. The opposition energy of this Uranus - Mars is a bit like herding cats who are hopped up on caffeine and cat-nip. It just can't be done!

Yes, Mars brings energy, but Uranus is a revolutionary and refuses to play by the rules you've set out or have decided on. YOU may want to travel from point A to B and very aggressively go about that course with confidence, but Uranus just WON'T play along. He'll upset the apple cart, trip you up, put big, fat obstacles in your way and do this all in the interest of giving you the crystal clear beam of Inner Awareness you so desperately need! The process might be messy and ugly, but, in retrospect, it's really what the Doctor ordered when it comes to one's Soul Journey.

So, I wouldn't be surprised if a more impatient, frustrated, surprisingly harsh tone finds it's way into his speeches and statements with the advent of this Uranus station (Tr Jupiter, although trine this Natal Mars, will also be square his SP Mercury/Mars conjunction). Understandable considering he's running against the political version of a never-die Chucky Doll or an Energizer Bunny on speed, but it will not be what people expect to hear from him or how they expect him to act. In fact, it may even become the News for a while in the campaign. Only time will tell.

It'll be interesting, to say the least.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 05:12 PM
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9. Believe me, I know all about the Uranus slash Mars stuff
I have Uranus in Cancer square my Libra Mars.

!!!!!
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 08:18 PM
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12. I think I heard
He got angry with some photographer. I was thinking, "You go, Barack." There is such a thing as boundaries, even with politicians/actors, etc.

Anger can be the appropriate response to people in certain instances. I'm not especially concerned about him expressing inappropriate anger, because he is mostly in balance. He has a strong aura which can deflect most of the negative astrological influences.

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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:53 PM
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14. I sense he will loose his edge during the next Debate.
He will flash that temper without realizing it was an ugly display.
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:38 AM
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17. Behind the rage is what is interesting, I think
BO has been given a free ride, so far, and has not had major negative publicity; the Wright controversy was not that bad a deal, and didn't seem to hurt him as much as solidify people who were already not going to vote for him, giving them some ammunition. However, that is never going to be the case with anyone -- the free ride, that is -- and he is about to get his ticket punched.

Something about his past is about to come to light--something he thought would not surface, but has. It is serious enough to warrant a step back from the podium. To be honest, it is his ancient past, in a way -- but it is serious enough because it deals with "truthiness" and it changes a perception of him to a great extent. And because of the nature of it, it will not be pretty.

Sooooo, tighten the seatbelts. LOL
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:55 PM
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28. Me too. n/t
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:18 PM
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10. another manifestation of Uranus conjunct one's Moon
is a breaking away, of sorts, from relationships that no longer work. Relationships that had been secure and comfortable at one point may go by the wayside as your antennae go up and you begin to chafe under the emotional baggage.

In other words, I wouldn't be surprised if there are some staff changes for Hillary during the Uranus station conjunct her Moon (cough ** Penn! ** cough)

:evilgrin:
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-04-08 07:49 PM
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11. He has made plenty of money
from this campaign....almost a double-dipping of sorts. It won't be soon enough. I know its extremely hard for the Clintons to secure trust and Mark Penn is an example of why it's so hard. Terry McAuliffe is a true friend, more for Bill than Hillary.

So, on June 1st....the pendulum swings hey?
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 07:17 PM
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13. Well now, you nailed this one as well.
Just announced on CNN at 6pm that Penn has left the building! :bounce:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:29 PM
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15. yeah
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 08:30 PM by ccpup
although not yet at the 22 degree level where all the stuff is gonna happen, I now strongly believe the Uranus station conjunct her Moon will manifest more as a sea-change, of sorts, in her relationships, whether this be with her Mom, long-time advisers, friends, etc.

I don't believe it'll be as outward a manifestation as we'll see with Uranus opposition Barack's Mars namely because of the planets involved (the emotional, sensitive in Pisces Moon for Hillary as opposed to the combustible, I'm-drive-to-control-and-organize-this Mars in Virgo for Barack) as well as the nature of the aspects (an Opposition that challenges the energy of the Natal planet rather than a conjunction which bleeds into the energy and introduces itself into habits or tendencies already there).

I also think Penn's leaving was a parting gift as Neptune hit the square to Hillary's Nodes exactly yesterday and is now beginning it's waning phase. It's possible, if not probable, that the square energy helped to peel back the Nodal "past-life" Neptune blinders she had been seeing through with regards to him. And when it comes to squares, one can usually trace the eventual change in pace or one's path to a singular event.

Anyway, at the end of the day, it's more astrology at work and that's why I so enjoy including these Threads in this Forum.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:43 AM
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18. According to TPM
It sounds like a total fake out.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/187620.php


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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:27 AM
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19. okay
believe TPM, if you want, Stella.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:45 AM
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21. Not that it matters much ..
but how can you disagree with the campaign statement. That's what's on TPM.

Have you seen anything that suggests otherwise?

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/04/whats-new-3.html
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:14 PM
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23. I seriously doubt Josh invented Maggie Williams official statement that Penn's firm would
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 12:33 PM by stellanoir
continue to provide polling and advice to the campaign. If he's still involved, he's not really out was all I was saying.

Why so snarky ?
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:15 PM
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26. snarky? my apologies
Must be Tr Pluto t-squaring my Sun/North Node/Chiron and Jupiter/Uranus. The bugger is exact my Sun today on his retrograde journey.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:25 PM
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27. ROAR !!!
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 01:28 PM by stellanoir


No worries. Just didn't mean to offend at all.

Happy Belated Birthday dear.

Sorry I missed it.











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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:43 AM
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20. The last few days ...
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:45 AM by votesomemore
"The events of the last few days" include The Wall Street Journal's report that Penn met with Colombian officials who had hired him and his firm to promote a trade agreement that Clinton opposes; Penn apologizing for the meeting; and the Colombian government getting so upset by the apology that it fired Penn's firm.

Will Penn's departure stem any potential damage with Pennsylvania voters who believe trade pacts have cost them jobs? Will it end the controversial Penn's role as a lightning rod? Stay tuned.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/04/mark-penn-steps.html


Too bad he lost his Columbian gig too, huh.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:00 AM
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22. And is this called "karma"? n/t
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:41 PM
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24. They always say that
When someone "leaves" there is always a statement that they will continue to provide advice, etc. Like when Hillary's campaign manager (can't recall her name) left, they said the same thing. I don't believe it. I think he is out.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 12:46 PM
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25. Maybe but I thought they always said
"to spend more time with their family." LOL


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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:12 PM
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30. Ha ha! Yep, that too! n/t
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:58 PM
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29. it just got even MORE interesting
Just noticed that on that Red Banner Day -- June 1st -- not only will Barack have Tr Mars conjunct his Sun and Tr Uranus EXACTLY opposite his Natal Mars, he'll also have SP Mercury (who's been hanging out in a conjunction with his SP Mars in the 12th House since February) EXACTLY inconjunct his Natal Mars while receiving an EXACT quincunx from that Tr Uranus!

During the all-important June/July months when the Supers will be deciding what they're gonna do once and for all, to have that SP Mercury stutter-stepping in his communication with his Natal Mars just AFTER enduring the stutter-stepping in communication when Saturn stationed inconjunct his Natal Mercury won't necessarily help matters.

Add to that the combustibility of Uranus meeting Mars and the tension and frustration of the quincunx Uranus introduces to that fiery SP Mars/Mercury (can we just change already?!?!), mix in a little 5th House of Speculation and Gambling with a pinch of 12th House Secrets and Self-undoing and it wouldn't surprise me to see Barack lose his temper (Mars-Uranus), insist the Supers support HIM right now (Mercury/Mars inconjunct Mars, quincunx Uranus) only to be met with "oh, really ... and why?" (Uranus doing his unexpected thing via the energy of the Opposition).

I fully anticipate June 1st and the days preceding and following to be very interesting.
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:47 PM
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31. It sounds like a huge....
galactic "black worm-hole".:wow: :scared: :hi:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:24 PM
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32. wow
You just made me consider something I hadn't considered before. This Uranus station is square a Pulsar at 22 Gemini. Pulsars are part of Galactic Astrology (something I'm just becoming familiar with) and are known as "information givers". They're all about data, facts, communication, information, information, information. With Barack's high-in-the-public-sky 11th House Mars already in a square with this 22 Gemini Pulsar, this Uranus station opposite it will trigger that aspect and form a powerful t-square: Uranus at 22 Pisces opposite Natal Mars at 22 Virgo and both square the Pulsar at 22 Gemini.

With the "job" of Pulsars being in essence the transmission of all kinds of data and his P2 Mercury/Mars trine it -- trines are neither good nor bad; they just tend to grease the wheels a bit and make the process easier, so one has to read the energy of the chart at the time to see how the trine may manifest --, I now have no doubt that information (with that Pulsar in the mix) will be coming forward which, due to the opposition from Uranus to his suddenly angry and opposed Mars, will challenge him.

If anyone knows anything more about Pulsars, I'd love to hear (or read, actually) your thoughts.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 07:32 AM
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33. The first person who introduced me to deep space astrology
is this guy.

http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

He's whip smart and really funny and has been talking about super novas, black holes, and pulsars for well over 25 years.

Consider contacting him.

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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 08:44 AM
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34. I'm actually familiar with him
and his site and greatly enjoy reading him. Also, Bernadette Brady -- who wrote the amazing book "Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and The Lark", I think it's called -- has a new Deep Space Astrology book coming out. Mine's already on it's way! :evilgrin:
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 06:16 PM
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35. Thanks a lot.
pulsars, back holes...the "wild cards" for Astrology Life.:applause:
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