A Psychic thread .. or Impressions, etc. Open to All.

I had to start this because I was just reading GDP and out of *nowhere* came a feeling about the MSM.
I get that they are going to try the biggest coup ever attempted. I don't know if it has to do with the primaries or the GE, or elections at all. It seems that it will fail miserably, and ding their lofty, self made reputations. It won't sink them, but will hamper their unleashed right to manipulate the affairs of American citizens.

I don't get many impressions. This could be just neurons firing around.

Anyone else getting ANYTHING these days?

It's been in play for many years. One of the examples of the use of fear happened years ago (this is the one I use with my "righter" wing friends, as it is bipartisan and nonpolitical) - with the death of a child poisoned on Halloween. It ended up, as we all know, that the child was poisoned for insurance money by the father. However, we still to this day fear children going door to door on Halloween. How many children poisoned by strangers on Halloween? Answer - none. I don't know if it's just an impression - I actually think it is a reality, based on facts. The media has become nothing but a huge part of corporate takeover. It has many faces and effects all areas - How many were raped and murdered in the New Orlean's Super-dome? Again - none and again another bipartisan example. The partisan examples are so multiple, we couldn't list them all if we tried.

I missed you at the DU brunch this morning! I thought we might finally meet. We had a good time.

I totally forgot about the brunch. My days have been screwed up in my mind, since I finished up on my job Wednesday. It seemed like Friday. I've just been trying to reorient myself. I'm so bummed! I'll just have to make sure I make the next one :(

You're right. The corporate takeover. When the new energy disrupts the power structures, of course their's will be one.

we always have such a good time and always meet new people. I don't make it when it's north of the river - (it's that "gotta pack my bags mentality).

concrete jungle, the north and south dilemma isn't usually an issue for me. South is good for me. I enjoy the drive down unless it's rush hours. If you hear of one, give me a pm to make sure I don't miss it, if you think of it ;)

What about the story on razor blades in apples?
I hope that the two of you are right that the MSM will take a hit. I truly cannot watch them, not even some of the PBS shows. I often come away wondering whether I live in a different world.
The PBS shows I'm having problems with: Washington Week in Review and McLoughlin Report. Where the hell do they find these panelists? A different universe?

http://thefolklorist.com/pressreleases/dangers%20in%20the%20candy.htm

I think the razor blades in apples is debunked by snopes.com and also by Wikipedia if you put razor blades apples Halloween in google.

It's pretty amazing. I thought the poisonings were true for years - when my now 30-something children were trick-or-treating.

And we will await the downfall of our media - may it go first!

And my sense is that many people have found their voice, and are less and less willing to let them get away with deciding what "We The People" think is important.

My sense is that this is one of the signs that people are finally waking up, and taking a good look at what has been going on courtesy of the M$M. How they have been telling us what to think, what's important (Brittany! Paris!), etc., and We The People are becoming less and less content with that.

The corporatocracy went over the edge and blathered on with inconsequential BS for nearly an hour.

I lost brain cells just watching it.

I don't think we're collectively as gullible or naive as we used to be. After being lied to for nearly 8 years, how could we be?

Hopefully it's a sea change event. They got 17,000 plus complaints about it.

Time will tell.

Or do you know if that also included the emails (one of which was mine), letters, calls, etc.?

I do know that people were angry, and it wasn't just Obama supporters. A lot of people supporting both candidates, neither candidate, or the Republican candidate were very, very angry at what they saw.

I would love to see the M$M's swan song, and to see us getting back to real journalism on the nightly news.

I've no way of verifying, Sorry. It was just something I heard.

That debate was totally bogus though.

at least partly what I was feeling. After shock. I don't think it's over.

I think we are waking up. In the early years of this century, people, including me, were AFRAID.
I was terrified at what Bush might do, and afraid to say anything to anyone.
We have moved way beyond that, haven't we?

We still have a long way to go, but at least we've started.

I saw this post yesterday but did not get to write a response. You are dead on.

Have you read the NY Times Sunday cover article? It is very long but it is the mother-ship hitting the MSM fan as I see it..

but maybe this is just the beginning of the MSM unraveling.

Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand

snip:

Those business relationships are hardly ever disclosed to the viewers, and sometimes not even to the networks themselves. But collectively, the men on the plane and several dozen other military analysts represent more than 150 military contractors either as lobbyists, senior executives, board members or consultants. The companies include defense heavyweights, but also scores of smaller companies, all part of a vast assemblage of contractors scrambling for hundreds of billions in military business generated by the administration’s war on terror. It is a furious competition, one in which inside information and easy access to senior officials are highly prized.

Records and interviews show how the Bush administration has used its control over access and information in an effort to transform the analysts into a kind of media Trojan horse — an instrument intended to shape terrorism coverage from inside the major TV and radio networks.

snip

By early 2002, detailed planning for a possible Iraq invasion was under way, yet an obstacle loomed. Many Americans, polls showed, were uneasy about invading a country with no clear connection to the Sept. 11 attacks. Pentagon and White House officials believed the military analysts could play a crucial role in helping overcome this resistance.

Torie Clarke, the former public relations executive who oversaw the Pentagon’s dealings with the analysts as assistant secretary of defense for public affairs, had come to her job with distinct ideas about achieving what she called “information dominance.” In a spin-saturated news culture, she argued, opinion is swayed most by voices perceived as authoritative and utterly independent.

And so even before Sept. 11, she built a system within the Pentagon to recruit “key influentials” — movers and shakers from all walks who with the proper ministrations might be counted on to generate support for Mr. Rumsfeld’s priorities.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/washington/20generals.html

Yikes. But I am glad to know that's one of their cards, even if it only affirms their status as whingeing bullies.

What's the antidote to dominance?

In the world of BDSM, it is widely known that, in reality, the submissive is actually in control, having consented and expressed desire for/allowing the domination; and progressively, chooses when to be insubordinate, knowing full well the consequences.
They also 'win' by 'enduring' whatever their master or mistess throws at them. Who breaks first?

It's an interesting dichotomy.

and nobody likes to play that way.

It used to be that when I said the media are lame and prejudiced, that even long-time die-hard Dems would look at me like I was from Mars. If I said that voting machines were rigged, they looked at me like I was from another galaxy. Now I hear lots of comments from people who don't trust voting machines, whether they think they're rigged or just unreliable. Just within the last two days at lunchtime, several people have exclaimed about how bad the media have become, that they stopped watching TV news, etc.

I've heard that in the old Soviet Union, the state-controlled propaganda outlets that they called the news became useless as a propaganda tool because nobody listened to them. People knew it was all lies. Americans are slowly waking up.

Intuition about MSM - no, I'm not getting any impressions about any coups or anything unusual. But - maybe it's because my TV is gone. Back in 2001, I simply could not watch Bush's face any longer. It got to be too much so I took the TV out to the garage and it's been there ever since. I have no idea what's going on. A few months ago, I went on a business trip. In the lounge of the hotel, there was a TV turned on, with lots of chattering about the news. It seemed so warped, so Unreal, I thought Wow it's even worse NOW than when I dumped it.

Rigged elections - coups - sure, why not? There is so much at stake, it would be shocking if they WEREN'T up to no good.
Now a failed, rigged election now that would be interesting. I always love when their creepy plots fail. And they do.

Media - news - on a downward slide.
Did you know? TV viewership has been on a steady decrease these past few years. Same thing with newspaper readership. People are turning off their TV's in increasing numbers. If people feel the same way that I do, then the MSM is in dire danger.
I called ABC and complained, just like other people who posted above.
At what point does the MSM realize that it's going to lose its viewers? And along with that, its advertisers?

I just read that ABC is now facing a big decrease in viewership over the "sham" "Debate". I think several thousand viewers vowed to quit watching because of what they did.

At some point, reality takes hold.

Thanks for the update, VoteS. Let us know if you get any more impressions. Meantime, I'll keep tuned in.

I haven't owned a tv since 1995, except for a couple I've been given. I sold the first one. The ex left a small one here when he moved out. I never needed one because I found it all sickening. It really bothered me to be around the noise. It's addictive. And I can't believe all the public places that are now equipped with them.

Last summer I got into the habit, and it is hard to break. But, that is the best way to assist their demise.
Turn them off.

And the emotional aftermath of the Primary Wars is only one reason. I'm seeing major, major communication-related snafus (flickering lighting, screwy cell phones, Internet connection issues, people running around trying to keep things moving along, and the sense that everyone is frustrated with the technical problems). I get the feeling protests will be an issue, or, at minimum, that people who attend the convention will be afraid of the protesters and what they represent.

that there is a secret *military* base under the Denver airport? I can't remember exactly where I read that a few years ago when they remodeled it.

The party elders and SDs are insisting the final result shortly after the last primary. Hopefully a scene like an unsettled decision could provoke will be avoided.

But the technical issues .. interesting

Since posting this, I've been wondering .. which planet is associated with the MSM, and which with the Internet? Now I'm wondering which influences technology in general?

Communication, money, amorality. Internets, too, sort of/kind of, although I keep running into all these astrologers who see Uranus as the planet most closely connected to the Web and other non-television forms of media.

Uranus is the higher vibration of Mercury. Mercury is a personal planet. Uranus is a transpersonal planet, though they both relate to communication. Uranus rules high technology (amongst other things). Though individual conversations through the medium of high technology would be more Mercurial.

Neptune and Venus are related in a similar manner. Venus is a personal planet. Neptune is a transpersonal planet. Venus rules personal love (amongst other things) and Neptune rules transpersonal (aka unconditional love amongst other things)

Pluto and Mars have a similar shared but different commonality.

;-)

I thought I already was one.

Now I'll have to go and have an identity crisis in a Mercurial/Uranian sort of way.

lol

I needed a good laugh tonight. Thank you!

Stella is among the best, as far as I am concerned.

:bounce:

Mercury is Rx at that time, isn't it? What else are Mercury and Uranus doing between now and August?
I wish I knew how to read an ephemeris.

Also, it won't be so much what goes on in the way of protests outside of the convention as the big divides in our party that we are feeling now right here on DU will come out into the open. There will be some surprises and a lot of rancor in various camps. I still can't get a picture of the nominee but I can say that Obama is not coming in very strong as a clear nominee.

and I'm not really up to posting a big topic on it: But what is anyone getting on impressions or visions or whatever towards Obama? I'm not getting good vibes. When I see his picture its like looking at a picture of Kennedy or King.. its like looking at the "past"... like something could have happened perhaps, but never came to be.. and I'm not sure if it means something detrimental... or simply that he just won't succeed? I'm not sure.. just wanted to get anything that any of you might be picking up?

that I was simultaneously watching a momentous personage as well as stolen promise. I hope that is just an echo of the sensation I had watching film clips of MLK and JFK's speeches. By that I mean the things they said had such resonance but when I watched them they were already gone, so it was a lost promise, a lost hope for what our present could have been if they had lived. Obama resonates like these men did and I am hoping that those feelings aren't just married to the other from my experience.

Is that clear as mud?

That's what I wonder. I hear, "Abraham, Martin and John" a lot in my head these days.
But I also KNOW that he is being surrounded and protected like the others weren't.
We didn't know then. We know now.

I understand the feelings, but also feel he is safe.

as much as I've enjoyed Nancy in the past, she's predicted Hillary dropping out of the race, like, four times already this season (after NH, after Super Tuesday, after Ohio and, more recently, as Saturn crosses her MC in late-June). She's also admitted quite clearly she's supporting Barack because she intensely dislikes Hillary.

It's important to be aware of the filter through which the above astrological interpretations are being offered.

Thanks for expressing this. It's good to know that you know that all people have their biases, including astrologers.

I also want to express my admiration for you that you have persevered in the face of quite a bit of opposition in this group to your threads. Despite the fact that I did not (and still do not) want to see political predictive threads here, I have to say that I admire that you persist in doing what you believe in.

:toast:

there is a difference between someone who does their best to offer whatever aspects or progressions they think are important for each candidate and then explain why they may have an impact and someone who omits important and quite relevant information about the aspects which could benefit the candidate they don't like and, when confronted with the missing aspects or progressions, insists they won't matter anyway or, if they do, it won't help in the end.

That's the difference I'm finding with the astrology blogs in discussing this race. An almost willful abdication of one's astrological gift because of a quite human hatred for one of the candidates. The end result, of course, is the astrologer hurts their reputation by insisting -- because of the astrology, of course -- Candidate X will drop out (four times so far and counting) and ends up having to acknowledge they were wrong again and it was based more on hope and frustration than anything else.

It also doesn't help when astrologers who take part in the Comment section of these blogs are often chased away when offering those aspects benefiting the Candidate the blog officially doesn't like to help offset the almost myopically positive view of the aspects affecting the candidate they prefer.

It's difficult to find a balance, but it can be done.

As for my persistence, well, I am an Aries with a Taurus Moon, so I can be a bit like a non-stop freight train.

:toast:

themselves. Very poor form. You're making accusations while you are in the same situation.
You are here to defend your words. Nancy is not. If you don't agree with the conclusions,
why not leave it at that rather than accusing someone of purposeful deceit.

I'm making an effort to stay out of the fray because according to astrology * never should have won a second term.

Not that I was in love with Kerry, but having been obsessed with those nefarious Republican owned electronic voting machines I'm just thoroughly disenchanted, though I'll continue to write prayer threads about them.

ccpup is doing an analysis and a rather thorough one.

All of us have our biases.

Upon that we have agreed.

I don't see this on an attack against Nance and had the votes actually been counted, this primary season more than likely would have been resolved a while ago.

http://www.geocities.com/electionmodel/2008PrimariesLinks.htm

I have a strong hunch that electronic voting machine fraud trumps astrological aspects.

If you say so.

I just don't want something I post to be the launching pad for someone to make an attack against an innocent bystander.
If you say there is none, I'll take your word for it :hug: