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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 12:01 AM
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Between life regressions - thinking of doing one
One of my fav authors (Lois McMaster Bujold) has a new book out and to get the free shipping I 'had' to order another book. I decided on Michael Newton's 'Life Between Lives'. Being of an impatient nature, which is in conflict with my frugal inclinations - why pay for shipping when I can use those very same $ towards another goodie!, I talked with my psychotherapist who is also trained in reincarnation hypnosis therapy about doing a regression for this next session. As I have done a lot of good work with her and she has earned my trust so while she is not trained in this technique and never tried for such a session said she is willing to go for it. Our usual regression work is very free flowing going where my psyche needs to go with only a general theme such as past lives connected with food issues.

I was wondering if anyone here has experienced a between life regression or spontaneous memory that they felt was useful - or even just really cool - and might be willing to share anything of it.

Shallah, eagerly awaiting her books!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 06:14 AM
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1. I have read Dr. Newton's "Journey of Souls" and "Destiny of Souls"...
both of which are wonderful books. (I haven't read "Life Between Lives" because I wasn't interested in learning the technique to do it myself.)

After reading them, I went to someone trained in his technique to get a life between lives regression. I wasn't able to get anything. However, I am pretty blocked around such things. I do know that some others have had wonderful experiences.

I wish you great success, Shallah! :)

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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 08:06 AM
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2. I had a couple of spontaneous regressions that seemingly took me
back to past lives while in psychotherapy long ago. The therapy I did was basically all regression to get to the roots of problem patterns

They were not pleasant at all, but fit very well into the patterns of feelings, thoughts, and behaviors that I was working on at the time.

In one I was a bedouin child, another in a WWII concentration camp, and one, the most dramatic, was where I felt I was being forced to incarnate into this lifetime - so in between lives - because of resistance and terror.

I don't profess to know if these are true past life regressions, but they did arise out of psyche, and did have insights to show me.

DemEx

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-06-08 01:53 PM
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3. Regressions whether one believes or not can be very useful IMO
When I first started working with this therapist she explained that she would do regressions and work with people who believed or were willing to work with them as symbolic of their issues, whichever the client prefered. I was already a believer so I don't know if she or another therapist would use different techniques to help the client work with the material that comes up.

I have done regressions to access the root of certain issues and other times without a specific target just willing to go where ever my psyche needs to take me at that moment. One session I wanted to work with my food issues. I currently have multiple food allergies and chronic indigestion leaving me with a rather limited diet. That time I remembered being a young teen horribly sick on a ship in a storm, one of many including his family leaving Ireland for the Americas. It was dark, cramped, and sickening even before we were fed the rotten gruel that left us all uncontrollably ill, too weak to do anything but lie helplessly. To add to the misery there was a ferocious storm violently rocking the ship and then it went down. So in that life I was sick for days from putrid rotten food, sea sickness, and desperate misery and finally drowned. It was such a relief to get out of that life. Most regressions I regret leaving even miserable situations, just wishing to go back and change the things that led to the misery, but this one I was out of there as fast as I could go!
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-09-08 04:43 AM
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4. I have and they are very interesting
I'm not going to say I am positive that I was a starving orphan or a revolutionary in several lifetimes but the archetypes of those fit my issues in this life.

I have had spontaneous "memories" that were deep and very much like deja vu. I cried for a month when I first used Ted Andrews book "How To Uncover Your Past Lives". It hit something very deep .

I also used to get "memories" when I was really small between 3 and 4 years old and I just wanted to go "home". I would tell my parents things that caused them to call me "imaginative".

I have been regressed professionally 3 times. The last time was a year or two ago and I was searching for the bigger meaning of all of this. One lifetime consisted of being on a "spaceship". We were protecting our planet with several other "ships" strategically placed. One after the other the "enemy was blowing up our craft until there were "holes" that we weren't covering. I got into an argument with a co worker about where we should station ourselves in order to best explode our enemies so they couldn't blow up our planet. I wanted to move and the coworker wouldn't budge. Our planet was blown to smithereens right before our eyes. It was the most vivid and shocking vision I have ever seen.

There was no place for us to go, we had no home and we were totally alone. I had the feeling that we were just waiting for death.

The professional who regressed me then had me work through the feelings and meaning of that lifetime. We used it as a way to get to the deeper issues that I was needing to work on, as each of us carry trauma around with us.

Whether past lives ever really happen or we all go around making up scenes of them is irrelevant, it was a way to heal the deepest fears that lived within me. I would highly recommend it for those interested in healing themselves or just as a way to experience what the mind can come up with in a very relaxed state.
:hi:
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-10-08 12:17 AM
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5. I just finished "Journey of Souls" and his next one is the next book I'll
be reading. Pretty incredibly stuff.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:24 PM
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7. Your spaceship regression reminds me of a dream I had
It was very different from any dream I had ever had except for a few others I had at the same time. In those others I was zipping through space with no body that I was aware of just consciousness flying through the vastness in awe of the beauty of the stars, galaxies and especially the nebulae I passed by and through. When I saw the movie Contact w/Jodie Foster and she is flying through space in that capsule and looks out to see the nebula I cried and cried. Ever since I have wondered if anyone involved with making that sceen had a similar dream.

The other dream like those flying dreams also felt oddly real yet at a remove like I wasn't supposed to remember what happened. In this dream I was again a spark of consciousness in space but not as big feeling as in the flying dreams. I am tagging after bigger consciousnesses that are arguing about a spaceship that is stalled for some reason and about to be detected by the inhabitants of the planet it was observing. They were arguing about what to do when I piped up saying to hurry and hide it behind a nearby planet or maybe it was a moon. They argued some more while I kept trying to get their attention repeating what I said. Finally they somehow directed it behind the nearby planet/moon. I felt they never really noticed me, as if I was as big as a mosquito is to a human. Then I woke up feeling like I had remembered something I really wasn't supposed to.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 06:39 PM
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6. Thanks for posting this Shallah.
Past lives: there's more than meets the eye.

Suggestion: there are some amazingly good books in the local library about past lives. About 3 years ago, I stumbled across a book by Dr. Brian Weiss called "Only Love is real". The book deals with past life issues. Also, in one of his books there is a CD included which takes you on a Past Life Regression. Very interesting, and it was at no cost.

His web site has more information:
www.brianweiss.com/
You can also buy a regression CD.

When I took the book home, I tried out the CD in the back cover.
It was very interesting. During his coaching, I found myself back in Holland. The year was 1685; it blazed in my consciousness.
I used the CD several more times and unearthed a little bit more information. On one trip back in time, I found myself back in Sweden maybe around 1200 A.D. I was standing by a fortress, in obvious distress. There was a battle going on, and I could almost feel arrows zinging by. As I recall, I started speaking in Swedish to my buddy who was with me in the regression.

I've also had recollections of another life time, also in Sweden. Lots of snow, a blinding blizzard. Awesome stuff.










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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-12-08 11:59 PM
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8. I don't know that I would be comfortable using a CD as I have unearthed so many traumatic lives
I was to be burnt as a witch in one past life and with tremendous effort barely managed to leave my body just before the flames touched me. One spontaneous memory was of a life as a crusader who felt a call to service in my heart but mistook that as a call to fight. I remembered looking out on the field of a so-called victorious battle, the horrendous suffering, the dead and dying and KNOWING to my bones that the call I had felt from a kind and loving creator would never want this. I had betrayed my higher power and I felt there was no way I could ever deserve forgiveness for betraying that incomprehensibly loving presence I had felt in my heart. It hurts still just writing this now. I think I must have killed myself in that life for I do not know how I could live with the sheer horror of what I had done - and done in the name of my higher power - and the remorse I felt then.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 05:50 PM
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9. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.
When I read your post, I just felt so much sadness. Especially for your loss as a 'witch'. I believe as you met your death in that lifetime, you probably didn't mourn the loss of a body per se.
I think you wanted to continue working with your people, maybe helping them with herbal remedies and so on. Maybe that's the bulk of the loss? of not being able to help them. Misguided authority figures, who themselves were filled with fear, cut your life short.

As far as being a 'crusader', I think there is a huge loss in terms of doing what we think is right. Especially if we are devout in our beliefs and want to do the right thing. Also the issue of authorities or ruling entities seems to be coming up here.

I believe that the people whom you supposedly harmed, will come back to you. You will get the chance to heal them and help them once again. There is a reason for everything.

Past life regressions
I've been hesitant about using a hypnotist for going back in time. I was always fearful that the hypnotist would steer me in the wrong direction, or maybe focus on things that weren't important to me. I've heard that hypnosis is like hitting your subconscious with a sledge hammer. You force your way past your own internal protection mechanisms, and go directly to the subconscious.
As long as the hypnotist can be trusted, I guess it's a good thing.
But - I have never found anyone I would trust digging around in my own internal attic space, except for maybe Dr. Brian Weiss who is so awesome & loving.
That's why I opted for doing the self-regression.

Also, I do believe that we have the capacity to heal ourselves. I believe that our past is with us, right now today.
Whatever we have been or done in past lifetimes, it's right in front of us. We have a tremendous power to heal, whether that is with someone else, or with ourselves. When the time is right (meaning, we are ready to let go of the suffering)
a solution will present itself.

Sending loving thoughts to you - a real healer.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:30 AM
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12. The Crusader life and others were lessons in trusting myself instead of authority figures
I didn't trust my inner knowing and let others who were the so-called experts direct me. I didn't think I was good enough, pure enough, smart enough so I thought I needed others who put on a good act of being those things to tell me what to do. One of those other lives was in the last days of what we now call Atlantis. I was psychic who followed others, again the wrong others including my man I was married to, and let my abilities be misused. I hesitate to say this but the spouse is a member of the * cabal. That memory made me put more credence in the stories of dark adepts incarnating in groups. I have recalled many painful lifetimes after these. I think I chose to be a victim believing I only had two choices victim or abuser. Well there is a third choice - to be neither. Refusing to claim my personal power and the right to use it allowed others to abuse me and then go on to others. Much better is the choice to be myself to the best of my ability, to trust the abilities I was gifted with and not be dependant on outer authorities. Take advice when given by those who have proven themselves worthy Yes. Blind following NO!


I am lucky in the therapist I have. Normally it takes a lot for me to trust someone but with her I was instantly comfortable. I haven't recalled an incarnation with her yet but as she is so familiar and safe for me I must have known her at least once. She is very adaptive and does not give much direction during regressions after the initial relaxation exercise of going down an elevator and then out of a tunnel to the place I need to go. Sometimes it is a little more directed and she will say 'go to where problem X started'. This can included issues with conflicted relationship. She will ask me to describe what I see. She never asks things like 'what kind of shoes are you wearing'. A good regressionist uses indirect questioning such as 'look down and tell me what your feet look like. My goal is emotional/mental healing so while it is nice to get specifics I rarely get names and dates. it is the emotional truth that I need. If I get caught up in emotion my therapist reminds me it is a memory, to breath light into it and where it hurts in my body and let it flow out of me. Mostly she is there for support and a bit of direction so I feel safe enough to let this stuff rise to the conscious level.

When working on an issue I will sometimes feel there is more to be accessed but i need to wait to deal with. My therapist never suggests pushing things and instead trusts my psyche to lead us to what I need to and am ready to deal with on the conscious level. I don't know if this is unusual or not because I was only once before regressed by someone else and I can't remember his directions only the things I recalled. That regression I asked my Mother to sit in on it with.

I belive that often the old saying is true that when the student is ready the teacher appears. That is what happened to me and the woman I work with who was one of two people highly recommended to me by an acquaintance. It was a toss up who to call first and give a try out with and something said to go with this lady. I guess what I am saying is if you really need a regressionist she or he will show up when the time is right.

Please don't feel badly for me. I *am* healing and learning once again to be a healer. Sometimes I get sick of peeling the seemingly endless layers of the onions of my issues but I have and continue to make progress. Bit by bit I release the old fear and pain and integrate the lessons and soul & personality fragments of those past selves once they are healed. I believe this work is a big part of the reason why I am finally loosing excess weight that I have struggled since my teens to release. I am not making myself do anything to loose weight except exercise a little and that only started in the past 3-4 weeks. Last fall and winter I did a few regressions on food issues and released several death by starvation or near death lifetimes. Oh and we were working on something else a few weeks ago when a memory came up without me being regressed. In that life my older sister and I were starving and by that point we were orphans without immediate family left willing to help. We were like twins we were so close even though there were many years between us. She gave me her food so that I might live knowing that little we had would not sustain both of us. I didn't realize this she tricked me into thinking she had eaten until she was dying. I did live to a good age for that time and place later marrying and having children but I have always missed my sister. I hope that somehow I can connect to her in spirit someday soon. maybe I will in the between life regression!
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 09:21 PM
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11. Shallah, we've *all* done many things in our past lives that we wish that we hadn't.
We are who we are today because of these past lives and the lessons that we learned because of them. You are a better person today because of those past lives.

I've had similar lives, and I was told by the channelled being with whom I work that it is not this life so I mustn't focus on those actions. Knowing about them is good because it can help us to understand our issues, but, otherwise, right now, I'm only responsible for what I do in this life. Maybe I have to deal with the karma associated with those past lives, but I can't feel guilt over them because it then interferes with the work that I came here to do during this life; I can make much more of a difference in the world if I'm spiritually healthy. I've finally gotten to that point. I'm doing everything in this life to do the very best that I can and to cause as little pain and suffering as I can, but I no longer beat myself up for whatever I might have done during previous incarnations because I can't do anything to change them. (That is if we believe in time.)

The divine in me bows to the divine in you, my friend. Your intentions were honorable even then; your vision was just not clear. The same was true in my situation -- I truly believed that what I was doing was the right thing.

I ask for the Universe to help you to forgive yourself and to help you to always have very clear vision from this point on during your remaining incarnations. (This or something better for the highest good of all involved.)

:hug::hug::hug:

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:40 AM
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13. Regression is useful to me so I know the reasons why I am the way I am
and as I remember I can release the blocked energy that has been carried in each and every lifetime after that one inhibiting my health and wellbeing causing odd fears and phobias and increasing tenancy to injury in certain areas. As with regular psychotherapy the point is not dwell and wallow in the problem but to face it and heal it. I posted in another comment on this thread how I have found those who say we carry energy and injury from one life to another to be true. My therapist does bodywork as well as the psychotherapy so she can assist with the energy blockage release as the memories arise. Often memory fragments spontaneously come up as she does accupuressure on an area as I talk. Sometimes there are specifics and others just the knowledge that a sudden wave a sadness is old so I just need to let it flow out of me. The older the energy the colder I feel so we have to stop and bundle me up in my jacket and some blankets so I don't shiver myself right off the table! Once the ssions is over I warm right up so it is a very interesting experience when this happens.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 09:55 AM
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15. Yes, I agree that this kind of work is helpful.
We can't actively heal what is hidden or buried.

We just need to forgive ourselves for what we discover about what was done in past lives. We are no longer that being.



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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-15-08 11:59 PM
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16. Forgiveness is the hardest thing for me
I finally feel like I might be ready to work on some of these a bit more on my own now and if nothing else comes up first I will bring them up in my next session. We didn't do the between life thing this week as something else came up first as more important. While it is disappointing to put it off I know that trusting the flow of the process is much more productive and fruitful.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-13-08 07:18 PM
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10. Hi Shallah
I never had a regression session, but over the years, I have seen quite a few therapists, who worked with my daughter, and I believe it is quite difficult to find someone who is a perfect fit and who is truly professional.
For me it was enlightening to read the third book of Newton, which as Dream said, is addressed more towards professionals. It kind of gave me an insight of why he was successful.

Here is Newton's site fyi:

http://www.spiritualregression.org/lifebetweenlives/aboutlbl.html

:hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-14-08 12:57 AM
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14. I know I got lucky finding the person I work with
She has many tools in her kit so when psychotherapy is best we do that, when I feel a regression might be useful we do that. Several years ago I wanted to work on trauma around my birth as I am adopted and lived with a foster family for a few weeks before my parents got me so we did rebirthing which is a breathing technique. It is interesting how breathing in a certain way certainly brought out those feelings so I could release them! Each time I would feel freer and I had more lung capacity to boot after!

For me I mostly need a regressionist to be a support person so I am not remembering something that might be too hard to deal with on my own and not get caught up in instead of focusing on letting the emotions and energies flow so they are fully released.

Right now of all the books I have read my favorite are the two by Carol Bowman on children's past lives. One is partcullary facinating because it covers spontaneous memories in pre-school aged children - some saying things as soon as they can talk - that indicate they are reincarnations of family members such as their own Grandmother. I lent that second one called Return From Heaven to a friend who said she wished to have had it back when her adult daughter was a baby because she had many memories and hadn't known how to deal with it. Carol Bowman's website is here: http://www.childpastlives.org/
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