Astrologers: Could this be some of the "problems" Bush was going to

have this spring, and possibly through the summer, that was seen in the charts?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1431213

Here is the first post (by Seemslikeadream) on that thread:

National Security Whistleblowers Coalition:
Congress, Whistleblower Protection & Accountability

An unprecedented group of national security whistleblowers have formed a united front as the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition (NSWBC). They will collectively attend two bipartisan congressional meetings today to demand that Congress act to end government retaliation against those who expose national security blunders, that Congress hold hearings into the federal government’s actions against whistleblowers, and that Congress act to require ‘individual accountability’ for retaliation against whistleblowers. The congressional meetings will be followed by a press conference featuring speakers from the NSWBC and guest speakers.

Speakers: Sibel Edmonds, Former Language Specialist, FBI
Coleen Rowley, Retired Agent and former division counsel, FBI
John Vincent, Veteran Special Agent, FBI
Mike German, Veteran Special Agent, FBI
Russ Tice, Senior Intelligence Analyst & Action Officer, NSA
Jesselyn Radack, Former Counsel, DOJ
Guest Speakers: Rep. Edward J. Markey (D-MA)
Mark Zaid, attorney, Krieger Zaid LLC
Professor William Weaver, University of Texas
Danielle Brian, Director, Project on Government Oversight (POGO)
Tom Devine, Legal Director, Government Accountability Project (GAP)
Dan Ellsberg, Founder, Truth Telling Project

Date: Thursday, April 28
Time: 1:30 PM- 3:00PM
Location: 122 Cannon House Office Building, SE, Washington, DC

more
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0504/S00408.htm

If Congress does not take action, Edmonds said, the coalition is prepared to run newspaper ads publicizing the names and salaries of individual managers who are alleged to have committed wrongdoing.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0405/042705c1.htm

This is huge!! :woohoo::applause::woohoo:

It's about time these folks joined together!

If only we had some high-profile whistleblowers who would finger the assholes who stole our election!! :cry:

A clear sign that people are getting fed up with * stormtroopers.

Sibel Edmonds could bring down the whole house of cards....and I pray to God she does!

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I was also hoping Plame would have a piece of that action but unless they get them on cover-up I don't know if they can make a case due to the "intent" issue. Though, as I've read that it is now believed that Vacula lied to protect his source to the grand jury, there is potential for perjury. I hope this committee gets behind the Plame matter for Joe Wilson, to me, certainly qualifies as a whistle blower.

than I had seen before. She claims that some high government officals got campaign money that had come through terrorists/narcotics dealing/ money laundering operations.

Check this out. Another potential source of trouble if it ever got legs.
I got it by email:

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- Griffin's historic 90-min Madison 9/11 speech to go national on CSPAN2
this Sat, 10:30 AM - Pass the word, pirate the show, and love up CSPAN
- Big NY 9/11 Truth events this weekend
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Tense Truth-Hungry Tribe,

Nothing spoils the suspense of a joke or alert like leading with your punch
line, but this is truly something to shout about. On April 18th David Ray
Griffin blew the roof off a Madison, WI meeting of the "Muslim, Jew &
Christian Network for 9/11 Truth" and CSPAN2 was there to cover it!

To give you a sense of the drama of the night, don't just depend on the
reliably progressive Madison Capitol Times, which was positive plus
(http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050420005531881), check out the
Bush-endorsing statewide Wisconsin State Journal which was also obviously
awed beyond standard "conspiracy theorist" caricatures and
refutation.(http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2005042017492172)

Both were apparently wowed by the fact that Griffin not only told this
crowded faith-based audience that the Bush team was nakedly complicit in
9/11, they greeted his charges not with jeers or doubts, but a lengthy
standing ovation.

In other words when this speech goes nationwide on CSPAN2 this weekend
(Saturday, 10:30 AM on their Book TV), you should have everyone in your
network of friends prepared with their VCRs warmed and loaded.

Just when many in the 9/11 world were falling into despair and chronic
shoe-staring, David Ray breaks loose in CSPAN and Hustler (June 1st
release), the Oklahoma City bombing truth squad embraces 9/11 skepticism
(see http://tinyurl.com/cz3mp for the eerie similiarities), and this year's
Oklahoma State Republican (!) Party platform calls for a new 9/11
investigation.

In other words, we're suddenly humming Amazing Grace and realizing that
despite all the brainy bicoastal 9/11 organizing and activity, it may very
well be the old-fashioned patriotoc heartland that finally saves our ass.

In the meantime, please do tape the show and spread it far and wide, and
afterwards contact CSPAN and tell them you love their style. Main number:
202-737-3220 Fax number: 202-737-6226 Viewer services: 765-464-3080

If Sibel could show that some of that drug money found its way into campaign funds, it would make Delay's problems look like a church picnic. Unless, of course, some of that drug money found its way into Delay's own campaign shenanigans! Wouldn't THAT be sweet?

O8) We can only pray!

:rofl:

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It is always hard to say what exactly. I continue to think the cost of gas, the shrinking dollar, and the weakening economy will be big trouble through June at least. (Saturn on US Mercury and square Bush's MC, conjunct his Saturn)

Iraq will continue to quagmire ( a new verb!). (Saturn on Bush's Asc, Mercury, Pluto), Bush will be seen as increasingly ineffective under these aspects.

If Bolton gets in, which means he has to get past the Saturn square to natal Venus through May 21, which I don't think he will. But if he does, watch for fireworks in 2006 when Pluto conjuncts his Mars. We could have an international incident from one of his rage attacks.

I really appreciated this information!

Police in Germany are hunting pranksters who have been sticking
miniature flag portraits of US President George W. Bush into piles of
dog poo in public parks. Josef Oettl, parks administrator for Bayreuth,
said: "This has been going on for about a year now, and there must be
2,000 to 3,000 piles of excrement that have been claimed during that
time."

The series of incidents was originally thought to be some sort of
protest against the US-led invasion ofIraq. And then when it continued
it was thought to be a protest against President George W. Bush's
campaign for re-election. But it is still going on...cont'd



http://www.indybay.org/news/2005/03/1728717_comment.php

Which only proves that when someone like Bush comes into power...
Poop happens!

Is she the woman who has been predicted will bring the house of * down?

I've been trying to decide just who it would be!

However, I remember reading that the women who will come forward will do so because she 'feels, in some ways, guilty about what has been done'. Almost as if she has been part of it. Could it still be Sibel??:crazy:

I forgot about the guilty part, darn.

that she has known all along about what's been going on on many levels- just be virtue of the fact that she was an agent.

The prediction also said that it would be someone from the 'inner circle'.

Could Sibel be considered 'inner circle', in that she was part of this admins. FBI?

Excuse me for butting in, but I keep wondering if that "good Christian lady" who feels guilty is Karen Hughes. While I cannot stand her one eensy weensy bit, I do think she is genuinely honest and tries to be an honest to goodness Christian. I think she might be the one who is suffering so from guilt. And don't forget, she was about to sit Bush down and tell him he was losing the election when the fraud went into high gear.

Because I've been wondering if maybe we needed to look at this from a different angle. The only inner circle women are Rice and Hughes and I have wondered about them, but can't quite imagine it. I also wondered if, it might possibly be someone on the fringes of the inner circle and that their role might be that of a catalyst. The domino that starts the others falling. What made me wonder about this is, there was a story in GDP several days ago about a judge named Owen who might very well be the reason the filibuster issue will be brought to a head. She, RW activist judge was at one point sanctioned several times by Gonzales for her views which he felt were outside the law. Now of course, he's backing her. She has been stopped before but is going to come up again, she may be the catalyst for a showdown. Now, in a rambling way, what I am getting at is this" we've been thinking that someone would come right out and say they did this and they did that. But what if, what is actually going to happen is, that because of a sense of guilt, they misspeak about something and that is what starts the unraveling of the ball of yarn. For it's not in the nature of anyone who is really in the inner circle to show "disloyalty", but what if they were compelled beyond their will, so to speak?

The other thing on my mind regarding this speculation is Laura Bush's comedic turn the other night. In reading the transcript and seeing clips I was struck by what I perceived as a level of truth camouflaged as jokes. Frankly I thought there was a certain amount of disdain to it and it had a real edge. The consensus in my home was that she is one "pissed off" lady. Now I can't imagine her spilling the beans either but I would have never expected something like that from her a year or two ago.

Does any of this make sense? To anyone?

I didn't, wouldn't, couldn't bear it. But you know, I think she came from a traditionally "liberal" family. So I've always thought this must be torment for her. Until I just completely discounted her.

I also remember, although it may not be accurate, that Laura is pro=choice.

Maybe that's why she's always drugged now.

I didn't follow what you were saying about Karen Hughes. But since she was a moderating influence on *, and apparently viewed Rove as too out there, this may all be killing her. If she's essentially honest, and cares about the country, any honest R must at some point begin to question what is going on. But would it be sooner or later?

She's a close friend of his, and obviously thinks a lot of him, but she may really not like what's been going on for some time.

What I was trying to say is, what if the spilling of the beans is inadvertent rather than deliberate. Matters weighing heavily on the mind that cause a slip of the tongue in the wrong place at the wrong time?

-- whatever it was about the woman with the guilt. I don't remember if it said she would spill the beans, or wanted to. All I remember is that she was "in torment".

I keep looking for some astrological examination of the likelihood of the truth coming out. Is that something that has been discussed here?

I see you answered me recently, which is nice for me. I'm going to go home now, and will be away for an hour, takes me that long to get there. But I am quite interested.

Sometimes I think she must be suffering terribly.

but it seemed too far out even to suggest.

When she left to go back to Texas, there was something odd about it, too much of the "spend more time with the family" and "pursue other opportunities" bullcrap lines. I just knew that it wasn't what they were saying. However, I think she's come back to be in some propaganda post of some sort, I don't remember exactly what, and that made me think my impression was wrong.

There's something fishy about the story of her sitting Horse-Diddler down on election day too.

Someone else here mentioned Laura as a possibility too. I've thought about that too, and it just seemed too, too unlikely. But if he's getting falling down drunk or back on coke in the Lincoln bedroom, she could get pretty disgusted about it.

Was keeping * from veering off into crazyland. She was widely viewed, if I remember correctly, as a moderating influence on him, and someone who was keeping space between * and Rove. Rove was expected to have his way much more easily with KH gone. And that is just what happened.

There has been that prediction hanging out there, and with Sibel leading the group of whistle blowers, with Griffin's C-SPAN special backing it up....ALL AT THE SAME TIME....this gives legs to both Griffin and Sibel Edmond's assertions.

On edit: Wouldn't it be SWEET if someone from further "inside" came forth to confirm what Sibel and/or Griffin are saying.

:woohoo: Get the popcorn! And sumpin to drink! :beer: :applause:

I'm still wondering if Rove isn't going to get to C-SPAN before Saturday morning, when Griffin's speech is supposed to be aired. I would imagine that Rove will pull out all of the stops to get that un-scheduled.

Nancy and other astrologers have been saying since before the election that bush was going to have some shit hitting the fan in April/May; and about the U.S. Mercury being hit, and that having to do with the economy. If you look at how the Stock Market has been wobbling on its axis, frenetically, for the past 2 weeks, you see the same type of instability that happened before the 1929 crash.

There has been so much pressure, building up for such a long time, in this country, it just stands to reason that there's got to be a leak in the dam appearing, to let off some of that pressure.

Right now, Transiting Uranus is opposite Bush's Mars. Next week, transiting Uranus will oppose Bush's progressed Sun, and of course, it's in orb right now. (Surprises!) On edit: The opposition usually indicates to me that it's coming from someone "opposite" to you.

Then in Aug, Sept, and Oct. Saturn walks across bush's natal Saturn, then his Asc. and then his Pluto, while at the same time (August), Transiting Pluto backs up and once again opposes bush's prog. Uranus. I just wouldn't want to be him AT ALL for the next 6 months.

I'm hoping that between Sibel Edmonds & the Whistleblowers, Griffin's 9/11 speech, the tanking economy, war problems, and all the information that MAY be coming out about the stolen election, that bush is going to have NOTHING but angry Americans on his tail. If the Saturn/Mercury transit has the media on board and angry w/ him too, then we're going to be cookin'!

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http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1474190,00.html

snip>
The week stumbled from bad to worse. On Tuesday, it was announced that Brian Sedgemore, a veteran Labour MP, was defecting to the Lib Dems. The result was Tuesday's damning headlines, with Sedgemore accusing Blair of 'stomach-turning lies' over the war. It was the final encouragement Tory leader Michael Howard's team needed: the next morning, they launched their own poster accusing Blair of lying to go to war, and asking what else he might lie about to get re-elected.


more at link...


The election over there is going to be very interesting! Has anyone done a reading on Blair lately?

I knew someone had asked about blair's chart and when I googled him for something else I found this..

http://www.astrodatabank.com/NM/BlairTony.htm

I can't read it but maybe someone can make heads or tails if he is going to squeak by with all the deadly lies he told about Iraq.

It appears from most of the comments, they think Blair will win the election, but it won't be a walk in the park..

In case anyone hasn't signed on here's the petition to require the immediate release of the entire report completed by the Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General (DOJ-IG) of its investigation into confirmed reports by FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds on the cover-up of information and leads pre and post 9/11.

http://www.justacitizen.com/

May evil twig's troubles be only just beginning!!!:woohoo:

After spending a great deal of time buried in history books lately, I would say it depends on how Americans are doing.

As long as there are a reasonable number of jobs; there is enough housing for the majority of Americans, and if things are "looking" good -- and by looking good I mean the appearance of prosperity, Bush will walk away unscathed.

Note the word "appearance". As long as Washington keeps cranking out false numbers about leading indicators, they hire journalists to put a "positive" spin on things and lie about the true reality of our economy, nothing will happen.

Think back to VietNam. The US was there for over 10 years. We lost 56,300 servicemen before people stood up and demanded that we get out. After such tremendous losses, Americans finally demanded a change. Washington understood.

Once a certain threshold has been reached, however, things will happen. Call it the "pain" factor.

has Saturn about to cross his Venus for the third time. Look how his popularity has plummeted under this transit to his first house Venus. The White House Emperor also has a first house Venus which he also depends on as a source of his popularity (like Ahhnold). Saturn will be coming to his Venus from 9/06 to 6/07. Something to look forward to. His popularity is also likely to plummet.

point!

In fact, I don't even believe he has 46% popularity rating, as low as that is for a pResident. People are appalled at what the white house and congress are doing... and I live in the South, where people will give some snake-oil salesman the benefit of the doubt. People are really having a problem with cognitive dissonance in the South, right now.

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