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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 07:20 PM
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Astrologers: Native Americans Poised to take Down Delay & Bush
Edited on Thu May-05-05 07:24 PM by KoKo01
(yeah...I know that my headline is a little "Tabloid" but I was trying to get out there what I see.)

There's some delicious irony and karma in this latest Bomb from "Raw Story." So, I thought it deserved it's own post down here where those of us who have been thinking about how all this fits into Astrological, Mayan, Spiritualist, etc.. I find it really incredible that it could possibly be the "Indian Gambling" that finally cracks open the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" with it's tentacles into all of our lives and that has funded the "Bush Takeover."

But I'm not sure how it will play out...just find it interesting. Here's the scoop:

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UNPAID BILLS
Bush Florida 2000 recount committee still owes lobbyist's former firm $314k

White House directs queries to RNC

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

(SNIP)
Abramoff was a member of the Republican National Committee executive body from 1981-1985. The tribal lobbyist advised the Interior Department—which oversees Indian affairs—during the Bush transition in 2001. His tribal clients gave more than $300,000 to a conservative environmental group founded by Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton.

A lawyer for the Saginaw Chippewa tribe, one of the clients allegedly bilked by Abramoff, told Newsweek Monday that tribal leaders had "three or four" meetings at the White House—including one with Bush and a second with Rove—after making a $25,000 donation to Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform at Abramoff's request. Norquist’s group later confirmed that he had arranged White House meetings for tribal leaders.

Another tribe, the Louisiana Coushattas paid Greenberg Traurig $1.76 million in the latter half of 2001. According to the New York Times, a month after Greenberg received the payment, the Bush White House blocked a rival tribe's attempt to construct a gaming facility near the Coushatta casino.

A Coushatta official told the Times he thought the administration’s decision was a direct result of Abramoff’s fees.

A third tribe, Abramoff’s former client the Mississippi Choctaws, gave $25,000 five days after the inauguration to the Bush inaugural committee.
http://rawstory.com/exclusives/byrne/abramoff_florida_recount_bush_505.htm


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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:30 PM
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1. I Wish They'd All Be Burned
by the purifying flame of karma right down to Norton and Reed. Also, is it too much to hope for that they would all be "frogmarched" out of government and into jail cells?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:05 PM
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2. We took the land from the Native Americans and now we see
that they may have a chance to save us from ourselves by playing a large part in exposing the evil that will be the end of the earth as we know it. If the info at "Raw Story" gets "legs" it will be one of the key cards in their house of cards that could start to bring it all down. I don't want to get too hopeful on this one bit working soon enough that we see it, but it's a start..

I wondered if any astrologers or others could make sense of this. Is it Karma? Is there something in the US Chart that would coincide with dates that we had our "Indian Wars" and the planetary transits which are in control now. I've read some articles on US Astrological Cycles but I don't have links..maybe someone remembers.

:shrug:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 10:19 PM
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3. Have You Read Nancy's Latest?
And Sally McDonald's "Let's Start Again" ? Both can be found at Astroworld with comments

http://www.astroworld.us/

Please excuse me if you've already read these. Both say, as do the writings of others, something is coming, not necessarily in one big swoop, but in increments which will lead to the eventual collapse of the house of cards. I love that the Native Americans may be instrumental in their downfall.
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:12 AM
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4. Or as the saying goes... What goes around, eventually comes around.
Indeed, it would be the greatest irony of ironies if Native Americans set the ball in motion to break the American corporatist machine.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:59 PM
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5. Thanks, KoKo!
And I've got a smidgen of Chippewa blood in me!

This is a oxymoron if I ever heard one.."conservative environmental group founded by Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton."

This would be so ironic if the Native American connection had a hand in bringing bush at least off his damn self-inflated pedestal.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:42 PM
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6. Native Americans have always received the short end of the stick.
Some tribes are prospering from gambling concerns, but others are not.
We came in and stole their land and tried to demolish their culture.
If I had a ton of money, I would give it to organizations creating jobs and housing for those who are at the poverty level. I would also do something to retain what little of their culture they have left. We could learn alot.
I agree, it would be karma in action if they were able to take down the powers that be.
Digit (part Cherokee)
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 07:29 PM
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7. A year ago the Interior Dept was scurrying to put a lid on this
I seem to recall a couple of people may have been sacked. Efforts were made to teach Interior employees how to listen and talk to the Native American tribes. Too little, too late. At the time I thought something was going to blow up with this issue eventually. A lot of money got ripped off the tribes.

This Interior Dept. issue was covered, though not in depth, by Platt's Inside Energy newsletter, which is how I found out about it.

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-07-05 11:31 AM
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8. dayam...that'd be so sweet.....
perfect and fitting I'd say.
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