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Rose Rosetree Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 05:30 PM
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Poll question: Do you believe that torture happens only to innocent victims?
If it were true that people have more than one lifetime....
If it were true that people set consequences in motion by their thoughts, words, and actions....
Could John McCain's lying to himself over flip-flops
be setting in motion a kind of torture for himself in the future?
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:13 PM
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1. On a strictly spiritual level,
Edited on Mon Sep-08-08 08:13 PM by votesomemore
I have to wish everyone tolerance and "forgiveness". I sure hope to receive them.
McMaverick has already endured torture, so ...
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 08:21 PM
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2. No
I don't believe that torture happens only to innocent victims and I don't know what the results are for lying to oneself about flip-flops.
I do believe in grace and don't necessarily that every fault results in suffering the results of that fault in another life.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-08 10:08 PM
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3. I think that some people who are tortured really ARE guilty
However, that doesn't mean that we have to sink to their level by torturing them.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-08 10:31 PM
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4. Torture is always wrong.
Whether there's only one lifetime or many, torture is wrong. There are other ways to work out karma.
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 09:07 AM
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5. That is above my pay grade
It had to be said.

I wish I knew exactly how karma works. Maybe something like "Groundhog Day"?

I will certainly agree that McCain's auric fields are a complete mess. A lot of it could be leftover from his Vietnam experiences. Energetic problems can be self perpetuating, and sometimes a downward spiral. Anyway, all that anger and his temper are indicative of problems in his energy fields.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:44 PM
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6. We should give him a release from all dark energies.
He may have endured enough by now.
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-08 03:52 PM
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7. It's funny that you say that. I was just thinking today
that maybe we should be sending light to John McCain. I'm worried about him, I think he's in way over his head with people who are just using him, maybe even setting him up, so they can perpetuate the deal they've had for the past 8 years. Maybe he even knows that it's true, but is doing what he believes a country-loving hero would do, sacrifice himself, his life, for the good of the nation.

Wow. Can't believe I'm even suggesting this. But if I were him, I'd watch my back.
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