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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 03:30 AM
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MAP Coning - Medical Assistance Program
I posted about this in another thread and got a PM asking for more info so here goes

This page has some basic info and the instructions on how to open the healing coning:
http://sacredbirthing.tribe.net/thread/9518ec62-8c6d-4d6b-98ea-5e0bf228a36b

official website http://www.perelandra-ltd.com/MAP_P1293C3.cfm

On Amazon - I think it is the 2nd edition that gives you a free preview if you have ever bought anything at amazon- http://www.amazon.com/MAP-Co-Creative-Brotherhood-Assistance-Perelandra/dp/0927978199

what I rambled about in the other thread:

have used this process for over 10 years now and found it very useful. I feel like I got a partial bodywork session after doing a coning. Usually I do one just before sleep and close it when I wake up for the day. The woman who first channeled the process gets fits over people doing this but my MAP team still does 'em for me all the same. Some people get detailed connection to their MAP team but I rarely get any sensation or impression. All I do is lay down, say the sentences to open the coning and invite in your MAP team and then describe the problem you want help with. First session is a scanning session where you describe all your issues in detail and they get used to your energy. Really woowoo but it actually works even if I never could get the knesiology thing to work.


I must confess I never figured out who exactly this works. When I read about involutionary/evolutionalry whathoozits I go :crazy:. All I can say is it helps me. I lay down, say the words to open the coning "I would like to open a MAP coning. I would like to connect with the Overlighting Deva of Healing. I would like to connect with Pan. I would like to connect with the White Brotherhood Medical Unit (name of my team). I would like to connect with my Higher Self." Wait 10-15 seconds between requests unless you get a signal of some sort to proceed. It works whether or not you sense them but don't be surpised if you pick of something. I have read of people having long conversations with their team but I am not currently clairaudient or whatever is needed for that.

OK the coning has opened so I state what I would like them to work on such as my knees which have misalligned kneecaps. I describe everything I know that is going on at least once though in subsequent sessions so much detail is usually not needed. I describe what the doctor found, what kinds of pain I have and where, what arggrivates it such as changes in tempature, and anything else that effects them that I can think of. Then I lie still and let them do their work. I like to open the coning before sleep as I have chronic insomnia and it helps me relax and I close the coning in the morning. The woman who channeled this process greatly disapproves of this but it works for me and as long as my MAP team does not boycott my treatments I will keep doing it. Now for something like an emotional issue like dealing the impending visit of an unpleasant relative I would describe the anxiety, any physical symptoms and sensations I have and anything else I could think that might have bearing including any particular preivous incident(s) with that person. Then again I let myself go to sleep and in the morning thank the team and close the coning in reverse saying "I would like to close the MAP coning. I would like to disconnect from the Overlighting Deva of Healing. I would LIke to disconnect from PAN. I would like to disconnect from the White Brotherhood Medical Unit (my medical team's name). I would like to disconnect from my HigherSelf."

BTw the book includes how to do a coning for one's kids and a special one for pets plus a professional coning for people who do bodywork.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 05:23 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this, Shallah!
Learn something new every day and this something I definitely want to try as soon as possible.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-05-08 09:42 PM
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3. Hi I hope you will find it as useful as I have. It is wonderful for adjusting to energy increases
like when I was attuned to Reiki it really helped me adjust and clear blocked energy so the Reiki could flow freely.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-26-08 06:43 AM
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2. Shallah,
this sounds really intriguing. Thank you!
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Bluestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 01:40 AM
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4. This really works
Thanks, Shallah, for posting. I and a group of my friends have used this for years. I think that Machaelle Small Wright (the author of the book) is fascinating and others might like to read her story in the first book, "Behaving as if the God in all of life mattered". It is amazing.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-06-08 07:06 AM
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5. This is facinating.... I was just speaking with a nursing student
who says that learning the science for this area is changing very rapidly. From one lecture to the next. Depak Chopra who's medically training at Harvard, is explaining stem cell healing that can take place through our own bodies awareness verses having a stem cell transplanted. I know this is an incredibly condensed explaination of a very detailed version of science that Dr. Chopra is teaching, but I just thought it adds to the fact that there are so many avenues to enhancing our own health.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:50 AM
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21. So, those of us who are working in the field of intuitive healing...
with intention will be the physicians of the future. We will also be keeping people healthy rather than "curing" illness after it has been born into the physical. Oh, just channeled that info.


That's Mrs. Meta-physician to you!



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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-31-09 10:14 PM
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6. MAP is also very useful for integrating energy changes & expanding experiences
Edited on Sat Jan-31-09 10:38 PM by Shallah Kali
I have been going through a lot of personal shifts lately so I have started asking my MAP team to help me integrate them. Sometimes it takes more than one session, others only one, before I feel less wonky, scattered, and out of sorts and more whole. They helped me after my Reiki attunements and with many other things that left my energies greatly changed.

So if anyone here is thinking of trying MAP or already use it remember they help more than on the physical level :)

btw I googled map and found these articles by some people who use them:

Opening a Coning

MAP Healing Teams

Medical Assistance Programming - MAP
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-23-09 06:02 PM
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7. Kicking this up hoping another will find MAP as useful as I have
Edited on Sat May-23-09 06:25 PM by Shallah Kali
:kick:

also an article on MAP

MAP Healing Teams

Users of Quantum Touch discuss their MAP experiences:
http://quantumtouch.groupee.net/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3531030471/m/9421048662/p/1
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-24-09 07:48 PM
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8. Thanks, Shallah...I'm going to try this! nt
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:56 PM
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11. Good luck! I hope you get excellent results!
:bounce:
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 03:53 PM
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13. Wow, Shallah Kali. I did this last night and woke up feeling
very different than I did when I went to sleep. I woke up in good spirits, much better than I have of late, with high energy and motivation, and best of all, no aches and pains. I felt an immediate sense of connection the moment I "asked" as if they were saying, "It's about time, remember us?"

It was very impressive and I will continue. Thanks for your giving heart in sharing this with us.
:hug:
:yourock:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:54 PM
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14. I am so glad for you!
Please pass it along to anyone you know who is open minded to complimentary healing techniques like this. The more people who find ways of being in more control of their own health the happier I am!

Please also remember when you go though times of change and/or spiritual expansion a session with your MAP team can help you adjust and acclimate to those changes. It's kinda like defragging a computer hard drive to get all the bits lined up properly. MAP helped me adjust after my Reiki attunements so I experienced a lot less of the detox symptoms than I was warned might happen.

Take care and keep enjoying your visits with your new/old friends :)
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 12:27 PM
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15. It is still going great. I am amazed at the results, and I
will share this with like-minded friends. I have to say, feeling connected to my loving "team" is the best part of all. I feel so much support as I go through the day and am just seeing things more through the lens of my higher self, if that makes sense, after a period of feeling somewhat cut off from that.

Lots of :hug: :hug: to you...
xoxo
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:18 PM
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18. Happy Dance!


:hug:
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:49 AM
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9. This looks really interesting - already ordered the book...
Edited on Mon May-25-09 07:49 AM by lisa58
...I already believe this - it's just a new way of working with it and anything that gives me more info is always good.

Will let you know how I do.

Thanks for posting and kicking!
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 03:55 PM
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10. I am glad this clicked with you
As I said before MAP has been a wonderful thing for me. It is not a cure all but always has helped. For a time now when I get bodywork done on me I will open a coning which takes it to another level. The woman I go to for bodywork also uses MAP herself but does not use the professional coneing but my MAP team does not mind and still amplifies her work on me. I don't perceive much of what is going on, mostly a sense as if I am in the midst of a support grid like energetic scaffolding that supports me so stronger and deeper work can take place without throwing me into overwhelm or a detox reaction.

I look forward to hearing about your experiences once you start using MAP! :bounce:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 04:00 PM
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12. Remember you can borrow a copy through Interlibrary Loan if your local doesn't have one!
Some libraries charge a small fee to help with the shipping, mine used to charge 50 cents, but that is still cheaper than buying a copy if your budget is too tight.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 03:08 PM
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16. This is a Great Find Thanks to Your Generous Master Teacher Spirit,
SHALLAH KALI:))))

Have been calling on expensive Healers for both me and my beloved 4 legged Angels, and this is the key of keys.

Have the 1st MAP book in my home library, but never once opened it!!

Also, to add another stroke of wisdom, Stephanie Azaria, the most inspiring (channels Kuthumi) astrologer/creator of http://www.thecosmicpath.com ---is writing that it is time for the willing to Consciously Call Down from above one's head into one's 3D body one's... Higher Self... for the Dimensional Shift to start occurring = next month--June'09.

Stephanie writes that for 'Ascension' to occur, first 'Descension'=Embodiment of one's Higher Self-- must happen = "Heaven on Earth". That a few people will be popping into Full Consciousness w/ their spiritual gifts available to them=great creativity etc. starting by June 6th...gradually....

So, when it is time to close the cone in the morning, will invite my Higher Self to stay within physical, and soon will fully become (hopefully) the Higher Self/Oversoul in a 3D body....Cannot wait ... ZOUNDS!!

Thank you eternally, Shallah Kali, have learned so much from you over the years:)))))
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 06:12 PM
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17. It is an honor for me to pass on gifts I have been given by my teachers though the years
I am so glad you already have the book so you can jump in at will :)

As I said before (at least I think I did) MAP is wonderful during times of change to help integrate changes like the ones you describe. If you ever feel discombobulated or had a detox reaction (instant cold flu or other illness) after a healing session, deep meditation or other spiritually/mentally/emotionally expanding experience you will know how important it is to get things grounded and balanced again. When you do your MAP session just tell your team what has been going on such as visualizing contacting and breathing in the energy of your high self or maybe with the Chiron Neptune Jupiter conjunction old wounds like heart ache are waking up. Tell them what you feel and what you know or think is triggering it then let them do their thing.

Bringing in the higherself takes time. Injuries from lifetimes linger leaving energetic scar tissue and blockages which need to be healed and released or we can't take the high voltage. If you have ever read or experienced Kundalini you know how much blasting through blockages hurts. :crazy: Much better to clear the path so the energies can flow with ease.

I have another book rec since your interests are in this direction -

The Pleiadian Workbook: Awakening Your Divine Ka by Amorah Quan Yin on Amazon

If you have ever bought anything at amazon they will let you read part of the book to help you decide if you want to buy or get it through interlibrary loan :)

Oh & her website has a Thirteen Chakra Meditation to blend with the Higher Self. This page is an excerpt from one of her other books so use Control F to jump down to the meditation. Leave out any parts that don't click with you. I am posting it to hopefully give you some ideas to create a visualization that suits you best.

One more thing: my favorite channel is Celia Fenn who channels Archangel Michael and she has written of the same things :) Here are a couple of links

Ascension Shock and the Deep Healing of the Human Heart

The "Golden Star" and the Recalibration of the Human Angelic Chakra System

Recalibration of the Lightbody to the Near Earth Frequency

Living in the New earth: You and your crystalline body I
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-28-09 08:46 PM
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19. Am So Grateful for your additional advice and uplifiting materials...
You wrote:"Bringing in the higherself takes time. Injuries from lifetimes linger leaving energetic scar tissue and blockages which need to be healed and released or we can't take the high voltage." Taking your much needed advice to clear the path w/ new wondrous MAP Team.

Will get back to you after investigation of your kind rec materials, Shallah Kali:)


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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 09:27 AM
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20. Celia Fenn's channelings are so precisely helpful...
Thank you for your insightful selection of these deeply informative descension-ascension 'maps' on every needed level, plus your key suggestions from wise experience, Shallah.....


Have ordered your listing of the 'Pleiadian Workbook'...(w/ meditations and exercises)...
and enjoyed the very positive customer reviews.

As those of us (still caterpillars) on this your ASAH thread choose to shift into Butterflies, we bow to you, Shallah Kali, as a true Wayshower:)
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:01 PM
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22. I am so happy to be able to share things that help others
Still a caterpillar myself inching along towards enlightenment or at least trying to get as close to it as I can without blowing out a chakra or two :crazy:

Your best teacher is your own inner self. Trust that inner voice, use what suits you from other's techniques but always come back to that inner knowing to modify, change and improve. We all have helping teams that we must remember to call upon for beings of Light never force and must wait for permission. When in doubt anyone can, but hoping for help I ask for whatever assistance may be given but if not is possible thanks for listening to me whine. A few times I joking asked for divine intervention over lost keys or other important but cosmically trivial object hours later I would be intending to get a cup of tea only to be drawn to another part of the house, absentmindedly pick up some magazines or bag to find the missing item. Was it my high self, my guides, the Universe? Don't know but I thank whomever for their aid in gifts like this small and large.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 02:40 AM
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23. Interesting technique
I've been using this every night before going to bed. I have had some effects, although it tends to fade after awhile. I don't know what I did to my left foot (outer side by my ankle) but the past few weeks a pain will make itself known. It is a burning sharp pain that will last several seconds and makes me want to cry. I asked the Medical Assistants to help me with this problem. The first couple days it seemed better, however, it came back and has been a dull pain since then.

When asking for their assistance I ask that they help heal my mind, body and spirit. I go into detail with the bodywork, please help and heal my muscles, tendons, ligaments, bones, joints, my organs, my immune system, autoimmune system, my blood and cells. I know that it might be asking for a lot but I need all the help I can get since I can't afford medical care from traditional doctors.

I went to the first link and it mentions an article from the month before about guides. I tried doing a search to find the article but wasn't successful, would you happen to know how I could find it. I'm always interested in learning more about guides and how to communicate with them.

Thanks for posting, Shallah :hug:

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 11:46 PM
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24. Hi I found the real source of that first link and to the article on guides
Your Guides Written by Lisa Renee Ascension Tools Series: Inner Circle News April 2005

Also a few books for your discernment w/previews thanks to books.google.com

Spirit Allies by Christopher Penczak

How to meet & work with spirit guides by Ted Andrews

Ask Your Angels by Alma Daniel, Timothy Wyllie, Andrew Ramer

Psychic Healing with Spirit Guides and Angels
By Diane Stein>

Remember your guides are always with you and can rarely intervene without permission so ask and ask often! If I am not sure it is something mine can or should help with (feeling silly about asking for spiritual help to find the missing keys) I say something like "please help me with X, apologizes if this is not appropriate and thanks for listening if you can't help".

When I get the heck out of my own way so I can sense mine I feel like the people in the verizon tv ads. I got the network baby! Most of the time though I only occasionally pick stuff up and only if one is *really* insistent. It was probably more than a year after Kali made herself known to me that I started trying to listen and asking for help. One thing that, for me, makes it easiest for me to pick them up is to try to connect as I fall asleep. Without my conscious mind jabbering away and dismissing the early subtle sensations I am more apt to get through.

Also keep in mind that most likely contact will be gentle and easy to dismiss at first. Pay attention and see if that set of sensations repeats with future experiments. Think of how you primarily pick up anything esp like. I am empathic so I generally pick up emotional content strongest. Someone more body centered might feel sensations in the body or chakras. The times my deceased Dad checked in I felt him in my heart the way I felt him when I hugged him in life. I felt his Dadness the way I feel everyone else's energy and nature in a hug. Others will be strongest visually or hear messages in the inner or outer ears. Sometimes my guides communicate by triggering memories of a song or movie scene or section of a book to get a message across. Everyone is different so whatever you experience is OK. There is no one true way so use the things that work for you and ignore the other techniques.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:07 AM
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25. Thank you so much for ALL the links ;=D
A few weeks ago before falling asleep I had a clairaudience ( never had this experience before ) it called me out of my near sleep state. The voice I heard called out MOM. Now I have no idea what this represented, so I stayed alert for a few minutes then drifted off to sleep.

When I woke up I thought about it and its meaning. Still wasn't concern what it meant. I thought maybe it had something to do with my mother ( I am estranged from my family ) so I looked in our paper to see if she had passed away. I didn't see her name listed.

I'm still not sure what the message meant. I've even thought that perhaps the voice meant to say WOW ( MOM upside down ) :rofl:

I'll check out the links you provided I appreciate it and, Thanks again Shallah :hug:

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 01:43 AM
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26. Could one of your furkids have wanted/needed your attention?
once in a while one of my cats acts like s/he is having a nightmare and is desperate for hugs after. or maybe you were open enough then to pick up another person's kid's cry for attention? Another thought is maybe one of your guides was your child in a past life. :shrug: just tossing out ideas in case one ends up fitting...

I hope some of those links are helpful. There are many other books out there as well as websites so remember books.google.com to peek inside books without buying! If you are looking for a specific sort of guide use quotes around exact phrases like "power animal" and if you want to find another word near it on the same page use the +. Example as "power animal" +Thunderbird or "ascended master" +"Kwan Yin".

Here is another book. I am trying to get a variety of choices as each author looks at things slightly or extremely differently from the others.

Healing Yourself with Light: How to Connect with the Angelic Healers by LaUna Huffines

One more thing - no harmful entity can answer that they are of or serve the light 3 times so when meeting a possible guide test them. If you suspect someone is of harmful intent call upon beings of light like Archangel Michael to take them away if you don't feel confident you can tell them to bug off and make it stick. Those of the light will understand and appreciate your caution. Some guides of the Light are bossier than others but will always respect your choices and back off when you ask. Bastet, who first showed up when I asked for help from beings of Light to heal one of my cats, likes to test me. For a time she would give me a mental cuff that never hurt at all when I didn't take her advice or didn't call on her as agreed every time to help one of my cats. Finally one day I pictured myself blocking her arm and hitting back. Next time she showed up she just went to cuff me and again I blocked and pictured myself in cat form wrestling with her until we both laughed. A few more times when I automatically defended myself like that and she gave me a message. 'If *ANYONE* ever tries to hit me again don't take it - even if I *think* I deserve it in some way. Fight back! NEVER accept it. never.' I rarely get verbal or near verbal messages like that so I was suprised on several levels. I had forgotten the folk tales of people being tested by guides mostly reading the modern fluffy bunny stuff.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 03:10 PM
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27. Shallah Kali...would you mention more about your connecting w/ Kali?
Have been mentally thanking you non-stop since you started this great thread on MAP...like others, have actually FELT for the first time in a lifetime of begging, pleading, calling on friends from the otherside, that now w/ MAP that THEY are truly w/ me!!!

What a joy!!! Have read nearly everything you have been and are generously suggesting and so, so kindly clearly posting.... feel ascension is just a breath away:)))

BTW, do you have a good source for the inside info re The White Brotherhood?? Who is in it besides St. Germain?

Also, just found on the perelandra site, that Machelle has a 3 DVD set re MAP course, plus a kinesiology DVD included.

Have to say that i use your clear, simple steps for opening the coning each night and closing it each am...the book is heady, imo...you are definitely in your heart...can feel the steps....
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 04:50 PM
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28. Wiki has a White Brotherhood entry that is pretty inclusive, imo
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 02:27 AM
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29. MAP somehow makes the energy of guides more detectable for me
I think it brings it more to the physical level which makes them easier to sense with the basic senses vs the vastly underused underdeveloped (in most people) psychic senses. That makes sense to me as MAP helps those on the spirit level have the positive physical effects.

re: White Brotherhood, actually I don't. I confess I never studied up on them. It was enough to know they are of the light and will help as much as they can. What I recall reading bits of it seems some disagree who's in it. I know Kali is amongst them :)

What would you like to know about Kali? She came to me at a time I was starting to work on healing childhood wounds and needed lots and lots of Mother love for my inner kids, more than any human could be expected to give. Kept turning her down trying to figure why a Hindu goddess would want anything to do with a new england white girl. When I prayed for an angel or another being of divine light to reparent my inner kids she always showed up so I got over my feelings of unworthiness and accepted the gift of her love and psychic protection. She is so vastly loving, so kind and tender and gives the bestest hugs - all those extra arms come in handy for super duper hugs :hug: My inner kids felt safe with her also because she is like a Momma Bear or Lionness - doting on the kiddies but anyone or anything raise a hand they are toast. I got to a body centered psychotherapist who does accupressure and other energy work as we talk who also is psychic. Her clients guides come through to her to advise and send energy through her as well as being helped by her own team. When Kali first started working on me she was too powerful for my system to take. It would have been like trying to send current from a power station though a household extension cord :crazy: Would have blown out my chakras for certain! For quite a while for Kali to work on me she would work through dear Kwan Yin then through my therapist and then me. Actually I think my therapist even with her years of experience w/energy work including teaching yoga needed time to adjust too! Even now I feel she holds back quite a bit of her energy so as to not overwhelm.
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 11:58 AM
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30. Thank You for Instructions on Kali Connection....
Have read that Kali is the least understood of the Hindu Goddesses. An aspect of Devi, Divine Mother, Kali is often portrayed as wearing a necklace of skulls, a blood-thirsty, ruthless, barbaric, merciless goddess, by those who do not fully understand her.

Have 1-2 degree Cap. Asc. and Cap. 13 degree Moon in H1, and feel a survival need... whilst experiencing Pluto's energies in Cap... to know His feminine aspect, Kali as Her loving/loved Devotee, and fast.

Have put an empty chair designated solely for Her, w/ beautiful purple silk scarf around it, complete w/ foot stool in living room, months ago, but have not actually contacted Her (perhaps terrified).

Asking Her to help lovingly parent one's inner wounded children is brilliant and so needed.

Certainly Kali would be helpful in undergoing a balanced Kundalini ascent,as well,... and the death of the ego, rebirth and regeneration, aka the Phoenix Experience.

Also, Most Important to have Kwan Yin in close attendance, as you advise, to adjust Kali's energies... for sure.

Thank you, eternally, Shallah Kali for opening so many key doors....
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-09-09 09:07 PM
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31. Kali scared me at first. All I knew of her was Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom
I didn't know of her aspect as peaceful loving Mother. As the scholars love to say she is both Womb and Tomb - but they focus only on her destructive aspect. They also ignore that some things need doing away with like unhealthy ego. The dark Goddesses govern all the stuff we like to hide in the Shadow because nice people don't do those things or get angry darn it! As we own our Shadow we can see the scary masks we projected fade away and see them for what they are - one part of the cycle of life. Not wicked old witch but wise crone, not life stealer but gentle guide in crossing over.

Dark Goddesses also tend to be masters of regeneration and transmutation. They recycle our leftover bits and waste into rich fertile soil that new life bursts forth from. They can take the putrid and the yuckky and show us how to remake it into something good.

When approaching these ladies respect your needs, don't rush. They are patient. You may find it easier to first visit with one with a gentler rep like Tara Goddess of Compassion who still has a fierce Demon-fighting aspect. I don't know if Kwan Yin has one but she works wonderfully with Kali all the same. Many times I have brought inner kids to them for healing and they would blend to hug and nurture that wounded part of me until it was ready to rejoin and blend with me. My therapist and teacher guided me years ago to create a sacred space in my mind to visit for relaxation and healing. That is where I meet my guides and send my inner kids just to play and romp until they are ready for healing and integration. Over time I have drawn it closer and closer to making my home itself the sacred space w/the imaginary one as maybe overlapping on the energy level. My inner kids like Unicorns and I haven't figured out how to manifest one just yet so gotta keep the other place up and running ;)

I hope when the time is right you experience the contact you want with Kali and other aspects of the Divine. Namaste!
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 01:19 PM
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32. Shallah Kali...Speaking of 'The Shadow'
Am so glad that you brought this most important aspect of our lives up....

C. G. Jung stated that: "One will not attain enlightenment by imagining figures of light, but by making the unconscious conscious"....

Perhaps in his view this was taken as the need to make the descent into the underworld-into the shadows, as in the greek myths, e.g as Innana's Descent into the underworld (looking for her sister Erishkagel=lost aspect/parts?) into the mysteries of birth & death, as i have read, and recover what has been lost, disowned and forgotten.

If one embraces the Shadow (the Shadow knows...), then one will undergo a process of death, rebirth, regeneration...and that is the task of the Hero/ine's Journey...according to mythologists, e.g. Jung and Joseph Cambell....

Considering that our unconscious is a past lives storehouse composed of our, mostly negative, thoughts, words, deeds, memories, beliefs,etc. that constantly projects it's contents into our 'outer' every day experiences of macro=CNN News events and micro= our family, friends, jobs, health, wealth, well being etc. it is vitally important to clear this all important projecting storehouse of all it's negativity collected and stored from our past lives...the thoughts, words and deeds, beliefs, memories etc. accumuated and unconscious, as soon as possible.

When you mentioned taking your 'inner kids' for healing to the Goddesses, i wondered if one can include as one's inner kids: Kim Jong Il, Amadinejhad, Hitler, The Inquisitors, murderers of Lincoln, JFK,RFK,Mart,in Luther King, Bush l-ll,
Cheney, family members, bosses, bulies etc. as our inner kids=characters we closely resembled in our past incarnations, (therefore we had to experience them in this incarnation), thus projected into our life experience by other names...but still our own dark shadow looking back at us in this hall of mirrors=everything and everyone is us and called the life/dream??

Perhaps that is what you mean by mentioning your 'inner kids'...it would be a great way to clear one's unconscious material, imo.
Life itself has been our 'Descent into the Underworld'...now the Ascent, please....

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-10-09 04:30 PM
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33. By inner kids I mean more like the ones John Bradshaw wrote about working with
the bits of personality and memory that get stuck for one reason or another at a certain age. Then later at times we regress a bit and act just as scared when confronted by an adult bully as when taunted by one as a wee one or just as bratty as a two year old with a raging temper tantrum :o

Working with the Shadow, at least for me, in part means owning the fact that I have the option to act as bad as the bad actors you mentioned. Trying to hide from my anger means I never learn to control it so it comes out in other ways such as verbally shredding myself - or verbally shredding another. I am spirit experiencing human incarnation which means I will feel anger at times. I will even feel rage and hate and desire to harm others. What matters is what I do with that energy. Do I act it out in abuse or do I turn it to good use such as motivating me to write my elected officials, take part in a protest or other positive action? Emotion can't be shoved under the rug like a bit of dirt unless you are willing to walk eventually on a mountain range in the living room.

Shadow work is part energetic, part psychological. It is visiting those storehouses of repressed things - all the stuff I think and feel that I refused to even think about because nice people don't do or think those things. It is also storehouses of overwhelming experiences that I was unable to fully process at the time and so the unexpressed and unreleased emotional energy is stuck in the Shadow there as well. Also as you mentioned it is past life stuff that again was repressed because good people don't do those things along with traumatic events.

Some shadow stuff is actually useful stuff shoved away. My favorite is reclaiming anger so I am no longer a doormat to those who would walk all over anyone who would let them and also so I am not content to yell at the TV about political outrages but take action in some way. It is still a work in progress. I still deal with the thought that nice spiritual people don't get angry, fear I will turn into a rageaholic like an older sibling.

Sometimes one can dialog with a self-fragment ask what it wants and needs and why it throws a monkey wrench in the works in certain circumstances. I always find it is wounded in some way and found this behavior is a maladapative coping mechanism developed to deal with things the best it could at that moment. My job as the healthier adult self is to show it better ways of coping and release whatever emotional charge it has to help heal it. Sometimes that means feeling the feeling until it runs out a bit at a time, other times I can just breath in Light, Reiki and whatever my guides send my way and just letting the old stuff flow out my chakras and/or as I exhale.

Some Shadow stuff is stuff picked up from those who bullied or abused me in this and other lives. Bullies and abusers are great at dumping the guilt and shame they should be feeling on the one they victimize. This IMO is part of the reason abuse victims often feel like they can scrub themselves clean enough after because they were also energetically assaulted. Depending on which feels right at the time I will with help transmute the energy from the bully (burn it up in a violet flame or psychic fire, ask Gaia to take it for energy compost) or return to sender. I will vary the way at times but basically I draw out the other person's energy and put it in a box then send it back to them so they have to deal with their own trash for a change. I was first taught this by my therapist and now can tell my own stuff from others :)

Owning my own stuff has cut down on projecting my stuff on others - the whole motes and logs in the eye thingy - made me feel better in general and hopefully cut down on the amount of psychic pollution I create which empowers harmful throughtforms or arctypes. Working on and clearing past lives that ended or nearly ended in starvation helps clear the collective charge by just that bit more of fear of starvation and scarcity. That subconscious fear no longer feeds that thoughtform plus it cuts down on the urge to overeat and horde things :)
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HOLOS Donating Member (390 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:55 PM
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34.  Shadow Work is Fascinating
Thank you for so generously sharing your inner processes, Shallah Kali, and Infinite Love and Gratitude to you for helping me safely, lovingly connect w/ Kali....
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 01:27 AM
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35. kick
hoping someone will discover something useful :)
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-10-09 10:30 PM
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36. I can't believe that I missed this entire exchange!
(I was crazily busy at work for almost a year so really didn't have time to focus on anything that wasn't work-related.)

Now that I'm finally awakening again to life outside of work, I feel that there's so much here that I want to try.

I have always shied away from certain aspects of life. I think that I'm now ready to start looking at them. What you've posted here will help a great deal. Thank you so much for posting this and also for kicking it for those of us who missed it, Shallah Kali.

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:14 AM
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37. You are very welcome and I hope this proves useful for you
I have been doing a MAP every day for the past week to help me deal with some deep painful stuff that came up in therapy so I wanted to give this another kick hoping others might find some relief w/MAP as well. While I don't find it does as much as a good bodywork session it is at the very least 1/4 to 1/2 as good IMO. This is nice since for those of us currently with budgets that don't allow enough or any at all. I use MAP to prep me the night before therapy, bodywork, energy work, etc, and to help process and adjust to the what came up and released afterwards. Overtime it has cut down on the number of detox type reactions after delving into deep issues and spiritual/energetic expansion/shifts. By detox I mean the I feel like I am getting or have a cold/flu/something that comes within 24 hours of an intense experience. Used to be they usually did turn into a full blow sinus infection. Anyhoo improving nutrition, drinking more water, finding the right herbs, and MAP has greatly eliminated this. This week was the first time in ages I have had a scratchy throat & sinus-y feeling that meant something might happen after expelling a whole lotta emotional yuk.

Sorry to blab on so. Experiment and find what works best for you. You are your own best expert so what works for me and what works for another may not suit you or you might find a better more useful way. MAP is an extremely useful process for me and I hope you find it assists you as well :)
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 01:25 AM
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38. Oh, I certainly don't consider you "blabbing".
Thanks so much for sharing the details.

I feel as though I'm supposed to be doing something, but I've not yet put my finger on exactly what it is. What you posted in this thread really resonated with me, so I'm thinking that I'm supposed to take a look at all of the different things that you've said here.

This thread is jam-packed with all kinds of useful information. It should keep me busy for a while.

I think that I'm going to start with the MAP information, and then I think that I'm going to start looking into some of what I consider to be Earth energies (just my own labeling) such as Kali, which I've tended to avoid up to this point in my life for some reason. Some of the things that you said made me realize that maybe I'm missing some important sources of wisdom and assistance by not including them in my life. Thank you for opening my eyes.

:)

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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 02:05 AM
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39. Oh good I am cohernt!
took my nightly dose of kava and it's starting to make me sleepy but not sleep *enough* just yet :o


it will be cool if my sharing shook something loose for you. I know reading ya'lls posts can do it for me :)

sometimes it really is time to just sit and do nothing - or at least focus on daily tasks.

There are many who embody earth energies if Kali is not the guide/ally for you. My path for sometime now is to work with earth based energies in part to help me actually get into my body and stop being so spaced out Airheaded Aquarian. Others start workign with more or maybe better stated less-earthly energies and allies cuz they are already been there,done that and have the living in body down thing down pat.

my general suggestion is go with whomever you are drawn to. Read the myths ancient and modern takes then see what your own gut (or other intuitive bodypart) has to say about it all. And if someone keeps popping in whether you think they are the one for you - and you know they are of the light - you can still tell them no but keep in mind you might work well together later. I am glad now that Kali didn't give up and kept offering help.

Namaste
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 04:49 AM
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40. Something I've been meaning to ask you, "Have you heard of Jeffery A. Martin?!?
He is a Reiki master and distributes his Reiki Guides for free downloads. So far he has released two, which I have and have read through both, however, not start to finish.


The reason I bring this up is: in Guide 2, Jeffery let Anthony Agee (also a Reiki master) write about the MAPS program. Agee found out about the MAPS program but has received additional information, concerning the Solar Angelic Kingdom or Solar Angels. He explains in great detail how to use MAPS, but because he altered the conning program he uses the term "templates" to the work he does with MAPS and the Solar Angels. He started including these Solar Angels into the MAPS program and even had direct communication with the MAPS developer about the additional information he received from the Solar Angels. He goes through the MAPS conning techniques explaining how to do the procedures. Unfortunately, Jeffery doesn't include the templates to contact the Solar Angels :(


I contacted Jeffery about his book "The Fourth Awakening" and also about the Solar Angel templates and whether or not he was going to release them in the near future. He replied back that sometime in the near future he did intend to release the info, but at the present time he has to many projects that it has taken a back seat. Hopefully he will find some time to publish the Solar Angel templates, so other can access the Solar Angels to help us in our quest for healing energies.

Here's Jeffery's website with the free downloads. Note: if you want to find Anthony's section Guide 2 page 65-86

http://www.freereikibook.com/


Let me know your thoughts about this.




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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-11-09 11:06 PM
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41. I haven't heard of either of those men
Edited on Sat Jul-11-09 11:06 PM by Shallah Kali
I came across something like those templates years ago, maybe by the same person, but didn't feel they were right for me when I started following the directions. When trying something new like this I preface everything with 'only if this is for my highest good'. It just didn't feel right for me and I didn't feel the MAP team like I normally did so I stopped and close it down.

I may check out that site later and see if this resonates with me or not. Right now am a bit fixated on the 'c street' scandal finally getting legs. It was puppetmasters behind these sceens which IMO effed up Atlantis, probably some of the same ones :grr:
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 02:15 AM
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42. Well, I'm so hoping Jeffery will find the time to write more on them
I really like Jeffery's Reiki Guides. He does an excellent job in writing about attunements and Reiki in general.

Did you see my thread about The Fourth Awakening?!?! It's still available as a Free download. I :loveya: this book and the details involving the history of ALL the periods of Awakenings, from the scientific to the Spiritual. Brilliant!

You should definitely check out the thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x94415

Their website:

http://www.fourthawakening.com/index.php

Jeffery is a kindred spirit to give away freebies on his books. He also does distant Reiki for his email friends from ALL over the world.


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At the present time I'm not doing much research on "the family" I just don't have the will to dig in to deep. Generally this would be something I would spend hours on, but I can't find the energy to devote to the anger and disgust it would generate. Let me know if you find out more details.


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