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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 02:26 AM
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Dowsing anyone?
I know it is late tonight and midwinter as well...
But as I am buzzed on my wine and watching a special on Stonehenge and the art of dowsing... It got me thinking

My yard is a blank slate, since I just moved in Spetember

sooooo....

What can I do to Dowse the yard so that it yields the best fruits? I am looking forward to having a place to really create a sacred garden, vegies, fruit, sacred herbs, etc
Does anyone have any experience with this mystery? links to share?

looking to plan for the spring would be a good distraction for me at this point. so any ideas are welcome.
...and besides, I'd like to have some harvest to share with my neighbors to increase the bond there as well...
the house is very "clean" as far as spirits are concerned and that leaves me alot more room to create a sacred garden...


...looking forward to spring! lol as 4+ feet of snow are on the ground! :rofl:
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Callie McAllie Donating Member (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 08:37 AM
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1. It is a great distraction to plan your garden
while the snow is still on the ground. I don't know about dowsing, but I do love to garden. Seed catalogs are already arriving in my mail. :-)

Do you have a lot of sunny space? Will it be one big garden, or little patches all around the yard? Just edibles, or some flowers too? Perhaps some edible flowers. :-)

Here's to an early Spring!

:toast:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:12 PM
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3. Of course I want it all!
I love butterfly flowers... like cosmos and batchelor's buttons, etc...
I'd like to have an herbal medicine area
and my girlfriend is giving me some of her baby apple trees

mostly, I want edibles...beans, tomatoes, potatoes, etc
I can't do berries or anything sweet, cuz our local Bear family will be climbing the fence for sure! (though I heard a deterrent is male urine ...but my teenager is too shy to pee on the fence ! lol)

yes, it is way fun to do in the snow... i may just do some research online for kicks too! :)
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Celebration Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 09:10 AM
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2. Dowsing
First and foremost, I would check out sun and drainage requirements for the plants. When there is a choice on where to plant, after the requirements are met, then dowse!! Personally I have never dowsed with a forked stick, only a pendulum. I am not much of a gardener. Probably what I would do, since I am used to using images, etc., is I would draw out the property, with the structures and trees, etc., so that it is entirely recognizeable to me. After that, I would cut small pictures of the plants and trees that I was considering. If I couldn't find pictures, I would use the words on a sheet of paper. Then, I would pick likely spots based on traditional criteria. When it came time to dowse, I would put the likely plants on top of the map to get yes, no with a pendulum. Or, I could calibrate it between one and ten as to how good of a spot it is.

If I were gardener I would DEFINITELY try using radionics for plants. There are all kinds of intricate things to do, as detailed in the book "The Secret Life of Plants", like burying pyramids, etc. However, the lazy person's way to do it is to use a symbolic radionics program for a computer. Sometimes these are sold on Ebay. You just use pictures, patterns, and intentions, etc. and send them on to your lucky plants!

I wish I enjoyed gardening. I like to spend a day or two doing basic annuals every year, get out the garden hose when I have to, and then be done with it.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 12:44 PM
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4. okay...I did a couple searches, and will share links too!
Edited on Sat Dec-27-08 12:46 PM by Journalgrrl
We can all use a little garden dreaming in the cold days of winter... so here's some info I found this morning!

Natural Home: Dowsing Your way to a Greener Garden
http://www.naturalhomemagazine.com/Garden/2002-05-01/Garden-Tools.aspx

Feng Shui Gardening
http://www.squidoo.com/fengshuigardens

Pranic Gardens - Dowsing for Life
http://www.squidoo.com/fengshuigardens


still reading.. more info to come!!!
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-08 05:16 PM
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5. We planted a sacred circle garden...
It's a circle within a square. The points of the square are (more or less) aligned to the four directions, and within each of the sections outside the circle, but within the square, are small gardens devoted to each of the four elements. The circle itself is a grassy area, and in the very center of the circle is a smaller circle with a round altar in its center. It was a lot of fun to create. :) Each section is planted with herbs, flowers, and other plants that represent that element -- some are traditional correspondences, and some are personal to my husband and I. We added small statues and other things that correspond to each element. For instance, in the section for Air are small faeries, birds, feathers, bells, wind chimes, etc. The plants there were chosen either for their colors, their scents, or their traditional correspondence to the element of Air. We first created it at our old house for our wedding ceremony. We moved to a new house this year, and moved that entire garden with us, so it's in the process of being recreated. Most of the plants are in the ground now, but we still have a lot to do when the weather warms up a bit.

We have a sunny area that will be for veggies come spring, and are in the planning stages of other gardens in our new yard. We like to create a maze of different garden spaces that serve different purposes. There's a pond, too. That's something you might want to consider if you have the room. Ours is just a hundred gallon pond, but it's home to many water plants, bog plants, and some VERY big goldfish. The sound of tinkling water is so soothing, and I love my pond fishies. :) We have to cover it at night (and always over the winter) to keep the possums and raccoons from eating my fishies, but it's worth the trouble.

I didn't do any dowsing, so can't really help there. Gardening is a moving meditation for me, so I do my best to stay connected and listen to the land when I'm working in my gardens. On a practical level, I'd suggest mapping out which are the sunny and shady areas, do some research to find out which plants will do well in the available light, as well as with your soil type and general climate, then start drawing up plans and dreaming away. It really is lots of fun to plan a garden, plant it, and then watch it grow!
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:11 PM
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6. You can ask the nature spirits using a pendulum
Or just talk to them and see if you get sudden urges to local the squash here and the herbs there ;) Each plant species has a Deva in charge of it and if I recall correctly you can get one assigned so to speak when you garden to be the Overlighting Deva of your garden. I am not so good at communicating or at least the hearing part so I just talk and assume they hear me and channel them Reiki. I do not garden other than a few containers but I do regularly send Reiki to the land itself, the plants and critters, and the nature spirits who watch over them all.

If I was in a place I could do a real garden I would do a little ceremony asking the nature spirits, my guides and any other beings of light willing and able to help to join me. I would ask them to teach me how to work with them to create a garden that nurishes my family, community, and all beings on your land for the highest good of all and dedicate the garden and all it produces to the Light. I would also ask for help to ensure the health and welbeing of all life on my property including deep into the earth herself along with any ley lines and waterveins, gently healing all that is stuck, blocked or out of balance. Where I live once had a black ley line running through it so I always check and double check the energy of a place I stay. As I am an energy channel i would then send them some Reik & thank them all for their help.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 01:43 PM
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7. All these ideas are wonderful!
THANKS!

...is there a way to determine Ley Lines? is dowsing one of those ways? has anyone ver used a Y-shaped stick for such work?

It is intreresting you mention Reiki... My girlfriend who has the only High Altitude "farm" here in Tahoe is also going to be giving me my Reiki Attunements as a Bday gift...so maybe we can both do some moonlight stuff in the yard next month :)
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 02:45 PM
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8. Dowsing will find leylines - wire hangers, stick, pendulum
A now estranged relative could dowse (he drilled wells for a living) and didn't tell my parents for years we had a black leyline until he found out we were open minded about this sort of thing. He didn't know how to move or clean it so he called a friend in another state & gave him our location. He was able to describe our house and the location of the well and water veins. He moved it but it came back several times according to the relative. When i finally started learning more of energy work myself I decided to try something. I kept asking Archangel Michael to clear and heal the line all the way to the source of the negativity and I sent reiki to the land & nature spirits. I didn't try to touch it myself figuring it was like toxic waste and best left to experts like Archangel Michael. I did this usually weekly until I finally got a yes that the line was clean everywhere it flowed and would not go bad again. By then this relative had alinated family so i wasn't about to ask him to confirm it was clean.

Congratulations on your impending Reiki attunement! What a wonderful friend to gift you with it! I love Reiki as it is so simple to be taught and use. No need to meditate on a mountain top for months, live in the desert, sleeping on a bed of nails to activate the ability to channel healing energy :bounce: BTW don't be suprised if other abilities open up more after the attunement. Some find nothing other than healing happens but others find other senses awaken after attunement. I know my empathy increased by quite a bit and thankfully my ability to control it increased as well! I Reiki my aura to strengthen it's natural filtering ability to keep me from picking up other people's stuff. When I remember ot use it as I cook I find the food is tastier or maybe i am just imagining :P Oh and remember you can charge items with Reiki from crystals to beds for peaceful sleep. hmmmm. With all the rock fragments in soil I bet the land you intend to garden will hold a charge wonderfully.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 03:15 PM
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9. Yes, LOTS of quartz in our dirt up here...
Edited on Sun Dec-28-08 03:17 PM by Journalgrrl
I was jut talking to my friend in Hawaii and telling her it is harder to garden here, because the elements are so powerful they can be detrimantal. The soil is very acidic, mostly decomposed granite, the "sunny" areas can burn because of the altitude and the lack of atmosphere, the dryness is everywhere (Tahoe is considered an "Alpine desert") and though we are near a meadow and the lake, we have bears and racoons to contend with as well....

challenges aplenty! But I have always been a glutton for that sort of thing!

RE: reiki - I am geting ready by doing some serious mental & physical detox as well. I figured that if I want to shift my energy for the coming year, what better excuse to do a detox? trying to quit smoking (cigaretes forever, motherherb for a while) and drinking because it just makes my skin worse and even a couple glasses of wine disrupt my sleep and give me a headche in the morning. I am getting too old for this shit! Also leaving behind the old rebellion patterns that are associated with the actions...

clearig seems to be the word of the month! lol
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-08 06:57 PM
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10. detoxing - you may find it useful to drink water with a bit of lemon juice or other citris
not just after but for days before the attunement. Epsom salts are wonderful as well whether in a bath or just soaking the feet. The magnesium in epson salts are absorbed through the skin and is important in so many body processes from making digestive enzymes to clearing toxins according to what I have read. When I have something that might trigger detox coming up I ask my guides to work on me when I go to bed to help prepare my energy and other bodies. I also do MAP conings (a healing system working with nature spirits which I posted about here http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=245x79882 ) before and after the event. It really helped me after my attunements :)
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 12:29 AM
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11. The only dowsing I've done is to locate water underground.
I'm what is commonly known in my parts as a "water witch". Using a forked willow or peach tree branch, I hold the 2 forks in my hands & point the single branch at a 45 degree angle to the ground. When I locate water, the branch will strongly point directly down at the earth at a 90 degree angle. At that point, there is usually water underground.

I have heard of dowsing using a pendulum, but have never tried it.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 02:40 AM
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12. now that's the good old fashioned way I know of!
...but may I ask why? I mean it may sound silly to ask, but why would we want to find water underground? I know in the older days it was important to know where to dig a well, but now, with water pretty much available, what would you use that for?

Can you dowse for something other than water? like ask the earth where the crystals are and se if you can find a vein?

just trying to understand the phenomenon too...
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-29-08 01:17 PM
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13. This psychic ability is a lifesaver so I can see why it still crops up
Edited on Mon Dec-29-08 01:23 PM by Shallah
but even here in the USA there are large areas dependent upon well water as it is so expensive to set up a city water works and run all those thousands of miles of pipes in rural and semi-rural areas.

Some water witches come from families who have had the talent running in them for generations. AT least some that I know of can dowse just about anything. The fellow my relative asked for help when he admitted my family's home was right over a negative leyline dowsed for oil and minerals for corporations until he retired. He like my relative could dowse water tell how deep it was, how many gallons per minute it would flow, if the vein was clean or had impurities in it and if there was a bit of rock too hard to drill. I believe that gentleman used a pendulum while my relative used a branch from a certain type of tree. He tried to show me how to do it once but it didn't work for me. He said it could be I needed a different kind of tree twig or that at the time my arm was broken in a case so the energy couldn't flow.

Did you know that the army has used dowsing? At least during Vietnam in desperation to find the underground tunnels, boobytraps and landmines they used clothes hanger wires according to what I have read on it.

I sometimes use a pendulum myself but I when it is something I am emotional about I skew the results even when I ask one of my guides like my guardian angel to take control of it. One time I was playing with a necklace with a big citrine pendant one of my cats became facinated by the twirling stone. It started to tilt so the pendant went from swinging horzontally to vertically like a windmill's blade and then the kitty leaned in for a closer look before I could react and the stone bonked the poor thing right on the head :(


Linkity Link - American Society of Dowsers California Chapters:
http://www.dowsers.org/chapters/ca_region.htm

Dowsers on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/dowsers33
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 10:14 PM
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14. Not everyone lives where there is a public municipal water line.
Many, many people live outside municipal areas & must rely either on wells, or cisterns. Wells being the preferred method. I've only had "city" water available for 10 yrs now & I live 30 miles from Nashville.

Water witching locates where water is closest to the surface, or where the larger underground pools(or lakes)are.

I have also located leaks in underground waterlines so they know where to dig to fix the leaking or broken pipe.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 06:31 PM
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16. I dowse for buried wires,pipes and other underground lines myself
Never heard of using it for gardening.

When I do it I use two peices of baling wire or coathanger wire about 2 feet long with a right angle bend in each one about a quarter of the length so that they look like L's.I hold the short end loosely in each hand and when I cross a pipe or underground wire they turn and cross over each other.
Doesn't always work,but when it does,it really works well.I have seen it locate underground lines no one knew existed.I have seen it indicate positive for lines buried twenty to thirty feet underground.But I have also seen it miss water lines three inches under the surface.You never really know what the heck is going to happen.Even had some laborers walk off the job because they thought I was practicing witchcraft.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:14 AM
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15. Check out this video, there are instructions on how to make a rod and how to use it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X1IA7mP3yI

There are also videos on other techniques for energy work.

Good Luck, Journalgrrl.:hi:

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 09:29 PM
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17.  .. it's late, i'll get back soon.. been dowsing for 45 years..
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