Did the Psychic Consortium make any predictions about

the economy? I don't recall any. Does anyone here recall any predictions regarding the economy, like how far it down it will, will it recover this year, etc.?

easily access the previous messages.

I don't recall. Here's one of PC's threads with links to the other threads. Of course, PC has commented in other threads as well.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=245&topic_id=80318&mesg_id=80318

I scrolled down and right there, PC had three messages about the economy with many points in each message.
I agree with them that things will not be the same; I just wish I had a better feel for what exactly will happen so I can be one step ahead. I feel like I'm in limbo now.

Now, according to Karen Bishop, is the time for us to be focusing on what it is we want. Can you do that? It might help put you (me too!) during this time of transition.

There's a part of me that feels it's going to be a brand new world - and I want it to be a grand, brand new world. I'm just not sure what all is supposed to be contained within it. I understand the need for balance - although the Republicans would just as soon not have a Democrat around, and the fundamentals cannot bear the pagans, both are needed in the way the old world worked. Will the brand new world operate on a different level? I truly wish I knew.

Thank you for the suggestion and PC has started a journal.

Everyone is welcome to take a look and give feedback.

all of your material there. :)

Journal has been turned off.

I hope everything is okay.

they're going to take a break.

Peace be with you all.

Didn't even know that a journal COULD be turned off.

say. I don't know about any troubles last week..this thread is mostly from Feb..I actually googled their name so I could find some thread to discover why they "turned off the journal"?

The previous PC posts about the economy still hold true.
Below are some additional comments.

The world will be quite different in many ways when this is all over.

2009 will continue to be a difficult year economically.

We will face many losses and have a reduced standard of living when all is said and done.

We have been one of the richest nations on earth, but certainly not the happiest, wisest, or most fulfilled. That will change, as we become a less wealthy nation, we will be a wiser, more content one, and enjoy a more stable government.

Basics will be cheaper and more available. Clean and safe food, air, water. Transportation, energy cheaper. Breakthroughs in those areas. Health care and education cheaper and more available.

In general it looks like non-essentials will either be gone, or more expensive. Shopping will no longer be a hobby, that is, buying things just to buy them.

Less disposable income, but more basics covered or cheaper.

We will emerge a wiser, more sober mature people. And we will be happier with less, once the shock wears off. More aware of the choices we make. More concerned about others, the environment, the leaders we chose. A more honest, hard working, ethical people and government. This will be
of great value.

We will receive many more intangibles than we have now. But we will lose the material. We paid a very high price for all the things we had. We will have a reduced standard of living, but be a wiser and happier people with more security in terms of basics.

Ostentatious display, greed, vast wealth will be out.
Those who have been greedy, corrupt, extravagant will be hardest hit. America’s wealth will no longer be held by a few. It will be a much more egalitarian society.

The best short term advice is to avoid debt. Save what money you can. Keep your job if at all possible. Start now to make Plan B and C job wise. Decide now what skills you have that could make some money or be useful in barter.

The most important thing is to go with the flow. Accept the losses that will come. Grieve the losses, let go and move forward. Have gratitude for what we do have. All we need are the basics.

All in all, for those who are spiritual and soul centered, it will be a good change. We will finally feel like we have found our place and time.

Those steeped in greed and material will not be happy

Have come to this site daily looking, hoping to see a post from you.

Finding you again just now has been truly magical and so strengthening.

Please stay close and impart your wisdom as frequently as possible.

We need you in these times, to say the least.

One question: Will the growing homeless and hungry millions of Americans receive help soon, or will their be violent revolt this year?

Thank you again for your generous and wise upliftment.

PC does not see the kind of revolt you are describing.
Nor does it see widespread famine here in this country.

On a related note, the current leadership would not stand by and watch millions of Americans starving. Before that happens President Obama would open every federal food storage bank in the nation and feed the poor and hungry. Or nationalize farms. He would personally see to it that Americans did not starve in the street.

We have a leader who loves the people, and takes his oath very seriously. He is committed to doing whatever he can to help Americans now and for many generations to come.

PC wishes all of you could see what we see.

I drove to work this AM feeling a great deal of optimism for the future of our world.

I wish I could see what you (plural) see also, but, I don't see specifics so much as I "see" an overall picture of equality, a return to the concept of community in respect to sharing of resources, and, an overwhelming sense of well-being and peace.

In a word, I think that justice has come to our world.

is exactly as you describe.
It is darkest just before dawn,
but a new day is upon us.

The country is going in the direction you describe.
The ways of the 21st century.

the corporate factory farms that practice chemically based agriculture and cruel animal husbandry. Our food supply should not be compromised with greed. As a matter of fact we should nationalize all natural resources like mining, oil, lumber, all other extraction industries. Those resources belong to the people and the proceeds should be used for the people for health care and education. Do you see the likelihood that this will ever happen in the future?

This ought not be. The fruits of the planet belong to all of us, as you say.
Monsanto is the WallMart of food supply. They act as if THEY created seed.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/ge/071603_ge.cfm

Monsanto sues and sues and sues and...
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http://www.cropchoice.com

by Paul Beingessner

Canadian farmer and writer

(Monday, July 14, 2003 -- CropChoice guest commentary) -- Monsanto and President George Bush have one thing in common. Both have a liking for the "walk softly and carry a big stick" form of public relations. Bush uses his big economic stick to gain the support of various nations in his quest to make the world safe for American corporations. Monsanto also uses a big economic stick - the big stick of the courtroom, to beat up those who fall afoul of its litigious nature. And, like George Bush, Monsanto has been pretty successful with these tactics. After all, the effect of a cluster bomb dropping on the home quarter would not be much more devastating than the effect of being sued by a huge corporation that is willing and able to spend millions to gain its ends.

Monsanto is very determined to defend its position that farmers must buy new seed of its patented genetically modified crops each year. Monsanto has built a whole department to enforce its seed patents and licensing agreements. It has 75 employees and an annual budget of $10 million.

An estimated 400 farmers have received threats of legal action from Monsanto over alleged patent infringement. While Canadian farmers will be familiar with the trials and tribulations of Percy Schmeiser, names like Homan McFarling and Nelson Farms should resonate with American producers. Few of these cases ever get to court because most farmers look at the odds of outlasting Monsanto and simply give in. A clause in Monsanto's licensing agreement allows Monsanto to take such cases in the U.S. before courts in Missouri. This can add a huge amount to the legal bills of farmers who might be thousands of miles away.

Several of the cases that have gone to court are enough to scare farmers into meek submission to Monsanto's demands. Homan McFarling was fined $780,000 for growing Roundup Ready soybeans without paying Monsanto's licensing fee. Tennessee farmer Kem Ralph was fined $1.7 million and sentenced to eight months in jail for a variety of offenses that began with a Monsanto lawsuit.

google for "Monsanto sues"
http://www.google.com/search?q=monsanto+sues&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS245US246

Monsanto finds their GMO seeds in the fields of farmers who didn't buy it and don't want it. Monsanto then sues the farmer for patent infringement. What I don't understand is why the farmers don't countersue and win on the theory of nuisance. It seems to me that the farmers should be able to say to Monsanto, you can have your goddamn GMO seed and the plants grown from it, but you pay me for the damage you have caused by failure to corral your seeds. I just don't understand why patent law trumps good old standard nuisance law.

Sociopaths have run our government and industry.
They have been allowed to run amok and write the laws.
Or be allowed to operate outside the law.

Change is coming.

For many months now, PC has talked about the toxic soup in which we currently live. Caused by the corrupt and greedy, and the indifference of the people and the government.

These issues will be addressed by Obama either directly or indirectly. PC has felt his disgust regarding the toxic environment in which our children live.

During Obama's campaign, PC repeatedly saw many many whistle blowers giving him stacks of information about wrongdoing from every aspect of American government and private industry. These issues will be addressed by Obama as much as possible.

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1233379523286720.xml&coll=7

This isn't the best coverage I've seen, but the best I can find at the moment. I'm sure it will be organic. The Obama's are going to emphasize organic, local and sustainability.

I'm so excited, I can hardly contain myself.

They will show us the way, how to be an advanced people.
A civilized people.

They are operating on many levels of wisdom and goodness.

PC sees a world in the future (admittedly not necessarily near future, as there are only so many changes a people can tolerate in a lifetime) where America's rich natural resources will belong to the people. Proceeds will indeed go to the care of the elderly, health care, education, etc.

PC looks into the future and can see people looking back at what is our present, and their past. They cannot believe that a vastly wealthy few were able to take the country's riches for their own use. While the citizenry were without basics, such as health care, education, clean air, food, water, safe bridges and roads. They shake their heads at this. They know that the basis of an advanced democratic society is a healthy, educated, safe people.

PC sees a future with both private and government run businesses.
Anything to do with the basic services of a civilization, and the health and welfare of the people, or national security will either be govt run or under strict control. Other enterprises will be privately owned with less oversight. There will always tend to be some tension between labor and management, but strides will be made in that area.

I've been working hard on HR 676 (Universal, Single Payer Health Care) and find it heartening that there's a good chance things will turn from the profit-driven greed that we see now to true health care.

And in regard to an earlier, upthread post, this came across my desk today:
http://www.naturalnews.com/025415.html
India's Waterways A Toxic Stew of Pharmaceutical Chemicals Dumped from Big Pharma Factories

It's good to know the whistleblowers see a true friend in President Obama.

Obama will make health care reform a reality.
It will happen.

And yes, PC sees the whistle blowers as a big part of getting Obama elected. The people who first hand saw the damage done to America and the world by the Bush regime.

Keep doing what you are doing. You are on the right side of history and working with your higher angels. :)

No wonder Dream picked up on a major healing vibe coming from you!

I don't want to take advantage, but may I put something on your desk?

http://www.futurepundit.com/
2009 February 02 Monday
Old Style Business Models Slow Medical Advances

giving us your insight and understanding on our DU astrology/Spirituality forum. How fortunate to be able to access these gifts through cyberspace like this.

One of my main concerns is monsanto and has been for quite a while. I've been supporting Organic Farmers for decades and monsanto is nothing but an Orwellian nightmare. I'm hoping the franken seeds will be put out of their misery before they destroy the Planet's food sources.

I read an article in the NYT that's encouraging regarding what kind of food message our President Obama will be sending:)

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"A spokeswoman for Michelle Obama, Katie McCormick Lelyveld, said Mr. Kass will not be the only cook preparing the family’s meals, but “he knows what they like and he happens to have a particular interest in healthy food and local food.” He will work alongside the White House executive chef, Cristeta Comerford, who was promoted to that job by the Bushes and is being kept on in that role by the Obamas.

Mr. Kass’s appointment signals changes at the White House that should please chefs like Alice Waters, who have lobbied the Obamas to set an example for the rest of the country by emphasizing food that is healthy, local and sustainable. It further suggests that a vegetable garden on the White House grounds, another of Ms. Waters’ dreams, could be on the horizon.


Mr. Kass, one of the new breed of chefs who are concerned about the environment and about poor eating habits in this country, has been quoted as saying people in his profession should take the lead in tackling public health issues. “Not only is there an unconscionable amount of people who remain hungry,” he told “In These Times” magazine last year, said, “there’s even a larger population, mostly poor, who are faced with obesity, diabetes and various other problems from overabundance.”

<more>
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/obamas-bring-their-chicago-chef-to-the-white-house/?nl=pol&emc=pola2

As for this message of your's..

"We have a leader who loves the people, and takes his oath very seriously. He is committed to doing whatever he can to help Americans now and for many generations to come.

PC wishes all of you could see what we see."

I see it and I'm so happy that so many others do too!

It's nice to know that the PC is still following this board.

Another question: How do you see Europe coping...they are currently in the streets....

Am sending your wonderful posts far and wide:)

There will be famine, unrest and riots in other countries.

Does the new energy deems them failures at such, or do we have work to do, to stop them living as kings and queens?

The new energy will make it more difficult for evil, greed and corruption to flourish. And easier for all of us to do the right thing. Easier to incorporate sound values that lead us to the 21st century.

Those living like kings, vastly wealthy and above the law, will not be supported.

We all have karmic lessons to learn.

I have really felt most of my life that we would be coming into a golden age but felt derailed by all the strife since 2000...I feel as though we are now back on track to that reality.....

I saw a splitting/fracturing/dividing of worlds as far back as '87. Never quite sure how it would all play out...just that it would.

Still see that...those on the spiritual path and those who choose material stuff.....will end up living in two different worlds or realities.

Blessings for all you share.
DR

might remain in the darkness, and it made me feel so sad. I so wish everyone would wake up so that they could participate in this new world that we're manifesting right here -- right now.

I realized that I truly don't want revenge on anyone regardless of what they've done in the past -- I just want them to wake up and come along. It surprised me how strongly I felt this.

Thank you PC for your words of insight. Your posts provide me with optimism and hope, even knowing that we will go through a difficult growing stage.

The strife of the past 8 years was necessary from a spiritual perspective, setting the stage for the changes that are now occurring.

A golden age of less but more. Less material, more spiritual.
Overall richer in many ways, but fewer things. There will be a grieving process as we let go of the material.

PC very much feels the splitting, or dividing of worlds. The emergence of two realities. This is a topic that should be explored further.

I have had the vision of these "two worlds" for many many years and have just recently been inspired to attempt to paint this vision. (Difficult to put in 3D what I see there.)


I do agree completely that the strife we went through was needed. I was really hoping at the time maybe not to the degree we received it but I can see clearly it was absolutely necessary...and perhaps we even got off "lightly". Again we already live in our fractured world...some live in absolute materialistic overload...such opulence and ease while others suffer the torture and indignity of not even having the basics of survival...with all the shades and tones in between. At the very first I thought it might be a splitting by way of physical things but clearly it is and always has been a matter of spiritual growth and open heart.

I think many already have been living in a different reality (at least part of the time) created by love, trust, hope...but that reality must enlarge and encompass the entire earth as she journeys on with those who also choose that journey.


Truly there is only one of us here and until we accept and truly "get that" it is a matter of forgiving all that has been done and allowing love to flow.We are all one...as teh Mayan say..In lakech- I am another yourself.

Blessings
DR

I keep seeing the split of Avalon & Glastonbury... like that but on a much larger level, and more distinct shift. There will be no way back once a certain vibration/evolution has been made...no getting lost in the fairy mist, the wall will come down definitively.

PC - is this correct?

I am also interested in the time effect....time is speeding up on one level and slowing down on another. I think this is part of the shif in our actual fabric of "reality"...
I have read that we were scheduled to have this happen differently and closer to 2012, and that we met a huge vibrational and collective healing 'curve' and we are actually speeding up the process, that 2012 may not be the year it goes down -
that we may be to the other side by then!

again, PC - does this resonante with you at all?

Yes the shift will be guided by vibrational level. Some of it is very clear and dramatic as we can see with the elections and the day by day significant work of our new leadership. Fast and dramatic.

However the overall shift is more as DR below describes, more gradual and subtle in some ways. Sorry if this is confusing, but it is a complex stage of human and spiritual evolution, at least from the human perspective. PC is still trying to sort out the mechanisms of how this will happen. But the overall feeling is that souls will return to this planet if their energy level matches the new world, or if not, go to another lower vibrational setting.

Yes the feel of time has changed, the changes are not yet clear to PC,
but it is there. Part of the new energy and the way we will see things from
now on.... Time is feeling more elastic and interactive, more responsive
to intent and energy.

PC feels strongly that 2012 is now happening, and wonders, as you do, if we will have arrived by the time it actually occurs.

....creating the way of ascension..the way time flows and accelerates or slows down.The actual mechanics of our evolution. Changing our DNA...rewriting it as we go.....

It's all new from here on out and we are creating it all as we go......so the more love & light, the better our world.


Yes,I do feel as though we are already in "2012"...and when that "date" arrives...what WILL we be like then?

All I see are beautiful awesome beings.



Blessings
DR

Seems like both internal (as you describe) and external sources.

Some of the changes seem to be due to the energy shift caused by external sources.
These changes very much go right down to the DNA level which is becoming different.

But these changes allow us to have more power to change our realties, more
control over the Ascension process.

The energy shift seems bi-directional, the energy coming into us, and then out of us.... in a complex energetic bi-directional dance.

That the reality shift happened recently with the election.

In the lower vibrational alternative reality the election went the other way.

All of us ended up where we were supposed to end up, based on soul contract and current vibrational level.

My immediate reaction was, "OMG!". Not only does this resonate with me, but, I almost feel like "smacking myself upside the head" because I didn't think of this.

I think there is definite merit to these feelings, PC. And, if true, they are very comforting.

Thank you.

Not a formally discussed topic as of yet, but it has been discussed informally.

The election as the time of the switch over is a fascinating idea coming through to a couple of members. (The idea has not been verified by other members as of yet, nor fleshed out in any detail.)

Edit: subject changed to better reflect content
PC is doing this as more posts are going to the PC journal

And, for me, too, it is a "fascinating idea".

I have entertained parallel outcomes since 1995 when I had a very major car accident.

I do appreciate what you post here, and, wish to say, "Thank You".

Yes this topic keeps coming to some PC members as of late.
They keep seeing the outcome of a McCain win and what that would
have meant. Some people may be living in that reality, some are in this one,
an Obama win. It is resonating very strongly with some, as it is with you.
That "of course" feeling like you had when you read it.

Perhaps you could say more what you are getting?

I am seeing that perhaps our realities are like bubbles that are still connected yet separate.

We can still see into the other reality bubble and because they have not completely separated, and are still affected in certain areas by the "other bubble" where we are still "touching it".

Very difficult to put into words concepts & ideas that are beyond our 3D experiences....but there is still some overlap...still choices to be made....but a huge huge shift happened...and continues to happen- not uniformly but with some giant steps along the way.

I completely agree - Obama's election was quite a GIANT shift. I could feel it & knew it that night in Nov.And then recently again as he was inaugurated. The joy & rejoicing came off this planet in palpable waves. That sure as heck had to raise the vibes!!

Thanks PC and everyone, I do so appreciate this discussion.

Blessings,
DR

The bubble metaphor fits well. There is a strong connection to the McCain win bubble, it is right here and can be seen like a movie playing. As you can imagine, it is not a pretty scene in terms of how things play out with the country.

Yes very hard at times to put into common words what is seen. Especially when the messages come in picture form.

The energy shift on election night, and then the inauguration was unmistakable and incredible. The planets vibrational level was raised significantly, it was palpable and visible.

That is why some of us wonder if that was the beginning of the big shift.
The energy kicked into another gear of sorts.

And yes the change over does not at all feel finite or over.
It is ongoing, a work in progress, and the beginning of a new karmic
journey. We must still fulfill our soul contracts and do our part.

bubbles in 2000 & 2004. Maybe some others have been living the good life for the last 4 or 8 years. I'm just glad that I'm in the "Obama win" Universe this time. :)

PC took a look at those reality threads.

A Gore or Kerry win does not lead to an Obama win.

Disasters were averted, but none of the significant necessary changes were made due to continual fighting from the republicans. It was not really the good life in terms of what we will have now with Obama. And the 2012 changes would not have happened on time, but much much later. While Gore and Kerry are good men, with good presidencies, the incredible energy surge is not felt as in the Obama win. The healing and profound change is not there either.

You have been in the correct universe all along. Bush had to happen for Obama to happen.

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to the best things in the end. It sometimes makes my head spin. :crazy:

Thanks for the feedback, PC.

It does appear that change would have happened with a Gore or Kerry win, but in the long run taken much longer with many setbacks along the way.

The fastest route appears to have been Bush and then Obama.

about the nature of good vs evil.

Not just academic, or book learning.
Not just spiritual teachers preaching right from wrong.

We have lived it first hand. Seen and felt it ourselves in a way that can not be ignored.

We can never really appreciate good, until we have seen evil up close and lived with it in all its horrifying detail.

As souls we have learned profound lessons that will stay with us for all eternity.

We were meant to learn this.
This is where we were supposed to be.

Just think what the poor Iraqi people have had to go through. :scared:

We got off easy compared to them. :(

We got off easy compared to many.

I could always see that we were going to have to learn this lesson in this way..it took that much for us to realize what a strong shift we needed. Thanks for the confirmation..

it started with the Gore/Bush election. I joke about it with family, but I felt that there was a split back in 2000 and I ended up in the "wrong" reality. I felt that way again this time around, except I was grateful to be in the place where Obama was President. When Obama gave his speech at the Convention, I woke up the next morning feeling as if things had changed for the better. I was determined to end up on the right timeline this time around (as if I really had a choice). True or not, that was my perception, or rather, the way I imagined things. Weird to read it here.

Some sources predict a drastic worldwide decrease in population. The causative factor(s) depend upon who is doing the prediction. Global warming is a big one. Wars, famines, pestilence might be suggested in other sources. I read a wide variety of opinions, so not everyone, of course, predicts the same outcome or cause.

Are any of these predictions related to a splitting world? Or, if this is to happen, is it part of the action from the split?

As you said...there are a variety of sources sharing a variety of information.

If this reality we all live in is created by consensus thoughts & agreements, then it is also able to be changed- on a large scale. We can see how we can change on a small scale our own lives by our thoughts, actions & creativity. This is why predictions are tricky and can change.(But I'm sure you know this already)


What I have seen (and it too has changed or perhaps my knowledge and understanding has grown so that I can see it all from a different perspective) has become more & more tied into the ascension process and 2012. Basically I'm getting it's this....those who are awakened and open spiritually, who have a loving heart, those souls will have the opportunity to choose to ascend (its all a choice) with the earth as she moves into her ascension-> higher frequency. Those who are mired in materialism,hate & fear will basically only have the option of staying with a 3rd dimensional planet (most likely very similar to earth).There they would continue with the lessons of 3D and if they're still creating from fear and anger and hate, I would imagine there could be some pretty large cataclysmic events...and "loss of life".(How can you really "lose" life anyway - it just changes form, right?)

I honestly don't know if others predictions are connected to what I see as the "worlds splitting". I always felt that many of those catastrophic doom & gloom prophecies, although mostly well intentioned, really do nothing to help awaken souls and pull in the light and love needed to transcend all this fear. They don't lift the energy but in a way feed the fear aspects. And a large part of the ascension process is to transcend the fears awe are confronted with on a daily basis.(Stating the obvious here I suppose, but if we didn't need these fears, they wouldn't exist.)

Hope this makes some sort of sense....

Blessings
DR

We agree it is not a doom and gloom scenario but choices
that will be made for future incarnations.

Choices are everything....along with love...and forgiveness.

Blessings,
DR

This has been a lifetime we chose for the many karmic lessons
we are learning. Books can and will be written about this time.

A soul can learn spiritual lessons abstractly or in vivo, in real life. We have chosen to learn many lessons in this life, not just the everyday lessons of our personal lives but much bigger than that. The lessons of a people, a nation, a world, a planet. This will become more clear.

on how we, who are happily awaiting these changes, should approach or relate to those who are terrified, and hanging on, hoping for a return to what they know as *normal*?

There is a great deal that can be done now and in the future.

The changes will not occur at a certain time and date, but will be an ongoing work in progress. And we must all be a part of that process if we can.

On a spiritual level, anyone with an active connection to the soul self, holds the light for all, whether they are aware of it or not. Continue to learn, read, discuss, sort out spiritual truths. This will make the light shine brighter.

On a pragmatic level there is much to be done in the way of service to others right now. Too much to list, but for example:

Reassure others, calm them. Give them hope, but realistic hope. A truthful version of the new reality. It will not be the same, and may be difficult, but will be better in the long run, for our children and grandchildren. The current destruction of political and financial structures will be good in that corrupt and greedy institutions will be overhauled.

Also, help in in any way. Food to the food pantry. Volunteer work of almost any kind. Practical help. Spiritual work, prayer groups. Spiritual discussion groups.

I really look forward to seeing you here.
I read your words over and over before the election. That night you were the first thought in my mind. They were right!! It was exactly as you said.
thank you.
Personally, I feel the changes, its strange, but I'm not afraid and actually feel good about it. I also believe it has to happen ( the economy), it's the only way to take the power away from them, as long as they have money they have power.
but I still can't break old habbits. I smoke, and now more than ever, I don't know what I want to do, most days nothing. I don't understand it. I am so bored most of the time and don't know why. It's been breaking a little the past week, but I feel like I should be doing so much more. Part of me is so excited about all of this, and part of me is trying to self destruct. It's like an internal battle of ego and soul.
Thanks again

Feeling calm, not afraid, happy about the changes.
But feeling things are in a lull, feeling bored,
and battling old demons.

Perhaps as you say it is the body, mind, soul
adjusting to the shift, the changes.

Ascension will be a big change upward in vibrational level, bit we will not yet arrive at the final destination to go back to the Source.

We will still have human frailties and weaknesses in the higher level
Ascension. It will just not be such a brutal, ugly and difficult world.

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Feel so fortunate that you are posting again...walking beside us....

Sending you (plural) Infinite Love and Gratitude

We are going to move this to a PC thread.
Thank you for letting PC interact in your space.

I'm so glad my question prompted you folks to reappear!

A number of requests have been made for PC to keep
its material all in one place. Therefore we will be trying
to keep posts limited to threads that can be placed in the journals
section of DU, and threads started by others cannot be posted
to the PC Journal.

Please post further comments to the PC V thread!
Thank you!

Thank you to Sanity Claws for her allowing us to post
on her thread!