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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:01 PM
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Avoiding violent movies, TV shows, etc.....
I avoid violent movies, TV shows, degrading stuff, etc.

Stuart Wilde emphasizes that you must stay above this stuff.

"Don't fight with people, let them go. Be a Taoist. Walk away and keep your dignity at all times.

Keep your life ordered in its cleanliness. Order acts as a form of protection. The ghouls like clutter and dirt and confusion.

Stay away from violent films and degrading images on the news and TV. Avoid pornography, as this is the most dangerous, as it comes out of the slave mentality. It comes out of the mentality of people who seek to abuse others, who they don't know. Those sentiments are very ghoulish and the ghouls love it.

You need clean images in your mind. Look at inspirational photographs. Call them back in your mind throughout the day. The celestial images replace the ghoulish images or the violent images. Stay away from poisonous people and dodgy people. Don't go to dodgy places, like the red light district or a shooting alley for drug addicts.

Use your feelings to decide. If you don't know, don't go. If you use your feelings to decide stuff the ghouls cannot pull you the wrong way by feeding your thinking mind with loads of misinformation.

Remember: No fear, no anger. That will keep you safe.

Drink chamomile tea. The ghouls hate it. Use lavender, put a drop on your crown chakra, your throat and your heart. Say some affirmations. Pray and be grateful as you are doing it. Put a few drops in the bath, and on your towel when you dry off. The ghouls cannot take the smell of lavender."


From stuartwilde.com, an MP3.

Discuss.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:44 PM
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1. I avoid violent movies and tv shows also. However,
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 10:44 PM by lildreamer316
I enjoy some pornography. Yes, on the whole of it sometimes it reinforces the 'master-slave' idea; however, having had some friends who were/are deep into the BDSM lifestyle; there is much more to the psychology of it than a simple term of 'degradation'. First, not all porn is degrading. Second of all, some people see the degradation/submission as freeing and as a way to express another side of themselves. Remember, in the BDSM relationship, the sub is really the one in control, and has freely and of their own choice chosen to submit and give another power over them. It's just one more way of play and exploration in our humanness; another way to understand and explore the duality of this world and our uniquely human experience.

I firmly believe there are spirits that are strong enough to observe and work with the forces of violence in the performance art arena as part of their continuing studies in duality and human nature; however, it certainly is not me.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:51 PM
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2. I likewise try to avoid such.
I don't currently have a TV, which helps a lot.

When my sons, now 22 and 26, were growing up, I was very strict about what movies they could watch. No PG-13 until they were 13. No R movies until much later. My reputation was such that when they were visiting friends, I'd get calls seeing if it was all right for them to watch various movies. And I know they watched a fair amount of forbidden stuff outside the home, but I never sweated it.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:27 AM
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3. I've avoided violent movies and the like for years
because of the vibrations from it. I have watched a couple pornographic films just to see what they were about, and found them to be a turn-off. But pornographic literature is another thing--it can be alluring but in a very negative way, and I avoid it also. "No fear, no anger. This will keep you safe." These are very wise words. I have found through personal experience that anger leaves you vulnerable and open to psychic attack.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 07:50 AM
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4. I don't watch TV news
Which is odd, because I used to work for a local TV news station! I prefer to get my news from the Web; that way I can pick and choose which stories I read and how long I spend on any one topic. I don't avoid any news--I like to be informed on all fronts--but likewise I don't like to be shouted at nonstop a la Fox or MSNBC about whatever they want to get their dander up about on any given day.

On our way back from Florida, we had to spend about an hour at the gate in Orlando before we could board. I fetched coffee and pastries and sat down on the floor with my back to the TV screen so I could help MG Jr. with his chocolate-chocolate chip muffin that was bigger than his head. ;) Anyway, I didn't even notice there was a TV there until the talking head banshees started screeching about their latest outrage (offended by something Obama did, of course). I got peeved that the airport would have Fox on...but I turned around and saw that it was CNN! It just helped me reinforce my resolve not to bother with that type of "news" coverage. And my life is all the more peaceful for it.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:44 AM
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5. i, on the other hand, revel in it. to know the darkness and know the light...
i love horror stories (not splatterpunk as much, that being gorefests like Saw or Friday 13th and the like), love war stories, pornography, stories of gossip, seduction, and betrayal (another form of violence women do ALL THE TIME and never call themselves out on it), dark music, fashion, degradation play, morbid fantasies, et al. i think it's perfectly healthy to engage in it -- in a fantasy setting, with clear and defined boundaries.

i believe that's the key, too, reminding people that these things are monstrous if let outside of their cages; we only enjoy them within boundaries because if we let them free they torment and destroy us. too often we have people who get into relationships of all types and act out presupposed notions of what is expected of them. and i find those who are most exposed to the "darkness" as fantasy, who embrace it and can see its seduction, and its eventual emptiness, have a clearer view of it. in other words, they know when play is over and it no longer becomes a game. just check out a group of fantasy nerds versus regular jocular types -- fantasy nerds may have very bizarre and libertine views of relationships, but they know when things cross their boundaries and can stand up and say no. but those in jocular cliques, they are trained to imitate and conform to society's expectations; the game is and has always been real for them -- there is no understanding of its fantastic element, of its artificiality, of its escapable darkness.

that said, so much negativity can grind you down. so yes, after several session of Dimmu Borgir or Cannibal Corpse, i like to chill with puppies, unicorns, and rainbows. but to know the difference, and have a safe outlet for its expression, is quite healthy in my book. but what one's threshold for gratuity is another's moistened hem.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:26 AM
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6. I think people have different.....
tolerances for being able to assimilate negative stimuli into their being.
My tolerance is extremely low. I don't like to look at the dark side of life.
I can go there in the form of depression way too easily, IMHO...and do not like the vibe.

I am extremely sensitive, if I hear or see something violent, it haunts me for days...
and that is not how I choose to spend my precious time here on earth.
All the torture talk in the main forums is really getting to me...
so I think I need to back out the door for a while.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:04 PM
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7. I was never conscience of my aversion to horror and the underworld.
It was a casual choice. Now, without even a break in my habits of avoiding the movies and books or music scenes, I not only don't ever cave, I physically shudder at it. I think that the physical beauty of this world is so outstanding that it should not be marred and that any time that would go to the horror stuff is a waste of time that can be used soaking up the beauty while we have it.

I haven't had a color cable/satellite tv for a year and a half and have come to a point where I can't bear to hear it. I can't believe the transformation in my toleration. I was one who always had it on in the background - primarily for the political stuff - to learn what was being done to us.

I have a 7 inch tv with a terrible image, but it's sufficient for the verbal shows like Bill Moyers Journal. I get to watch clips recommended by DUers. It is plenty. If I ever get one again it will be for the shows like fstv and linktv and their wonderful documentaries. Because of DUers I can catch youtube recommendations.

I did take a day and a half off to watch the inauguration on a large tv - it was too special to miss.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 09:22 PM
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8. Hmm, LinkTV. Interesting.
My mom was just raving to me about it today. This is the 2nd time I've heard of it. I'm going to have to check it out. Thanks for the recommendation.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-24-09 11:33 PM
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9. Yes, I do miss it a lot. And the last I watched it, you could catch Democracy Now to
watch it live or catch some rebroadcasts. Even though I can get it on the net and radio (with lousy reception), I liked watching it on tv. There is a broader range of sources for news. And ... like I said ... good documentaries. Go for it - and you're welcome.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 06:21 AM
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10. I've been intrigued with his use of the term "ghouls"
Edited on Wed Apr-29-09 06:22 AM by Why Syzygy
When I was in high school my friends at church and I used to get together to watch the Friday night horror shows on tv. I can promise you that I closed my eyes on the very scary parts. Eventually one of the guys, a cheerleader at school who was very outgoing, told me his heart had informed him that God didn't want us to submit our minds to all that frightening imagery. Since visual is my primary processing sensory method, the scenes are harder for me to deal with or forget. I wasn't entirely convinced, and did go on to watch some in college. However, I've seen enough horror in real life at this point. There are a lot of things posted on DU that I don't look at any more. Even the mention of the name, Nick Berg, which came about when I did a search on another topic a few days ago, immediately brings me back to the memory of watching.

Regarding porn, I've always been pretty neutral. Another friend in school showed us some of her parent's magazines. I have experienced a feeling of pity for some people I've seen buying it at a liquor store. Thought it was kind of sad. It did cause a VERY painful situation in the last relationship I was in. That started me thinking more about how I feel about it. But, it was just a recent situation that finally revealed how someone who has a history of porn considers women's bodies as simply a detached 'object' to be used at his discretion in order to satisfy his own appetites. I never understood the "women as objects" until that situation.

So, the word ghouls can be aptly applied to at least SOME uses of porn. I don't know everyone's heart, so I won't make a blanket declaration. Just as sex and eating are not wrong, they can be perverted to an extent that a human being is disgraced, degraded and seen as nothing more than the object to satisfy another. This is the very definition of "ghoul". It also includes a sense of "trickery" against fellow mortals. It may be one of our strongest temptations to use others in some fashion or another instead of taking legitimate measures to feed ourselves.

http://www.answers.com/ghouls
(snips/spelling errors in original)
n.

1. One who delights in the revolting, morbid, or loathsome.
2. A grave robber.
3. An evil spirit or demon in Muslim folklore believed to plunder graves and feed on corpses.



Occultism & Parapsychology Encyclopedia:
An evil spirit or revived corpse supposed to rob graves and feed on human corpses. It is similar to the vampire, but differs in that it not only drinks blood but also consumes flesh. The term is from the Arabic ghul (feminine form, ghulah) meaning "to seize," and the story of the ghoul has been widely disseminated in Moslem countries, ranging from India to Africa. Some people believe that the superstition stems from wild animals that disturb graves at night, others that its origin is the terror of death in the lonely desert. The idea of the ghoul entered into the West in the nineteenth century through translations of the Arabian Nights. (...)

The Vampire Book:
The ghoul, a traditional monster frequently associated with the vampire originated as part of Arabic folklore. It played a part in several tales in the Arabian Knights. Ghouls represented a more demonic aspect of the world of jinns, the spirits of Arabic mythology. The Arabic ghul (masculine) and ghulah (feminine) lived near graves and attacked and ate human corpses. It was also believed that ghouls lived in desolated places where they would attack unsuspecting travelers who mistook the ghoul for a traveling companion and were led astray. Ghul-I-Beában was a particularly monstrous ghoul believed to inhabit the wilderness of Afghanistan and Iran. Marco Polo, reflecting on the accounts of ghouls he heard during his travels, suggested that ghouls, gryphons (an imaginary animal), and good faith were three things people frequently referred to but did not exist. (...)

Wikipedia:
The ghoul is a desert-dwelling, shapeshifting demon that can assume the guise of an animal, especially a hyena. It lures unwary travellers into the desert wastes to slay and devour them. The creature also preys on young children, robs graves, and eats the dead.<4> Because of the latter habit, the word ghoul is sometimes used to refer to an ordinary human such as a grave robber, or to anyone who delights in the macabre. (...)


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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-02-09 11:41 PM
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14. Thanks for the info on ghouls.
I also avoid liquor stores and bars. Supposedly low spirits inhabit those places. I can't deal with all the bottles in a row. Even in the grocery store where it's just beer and wine.

I think the ghouls are the same idea as the emotional vampire or psychic vampire. Narcissists are very draining to deal with and they will suck your energy.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 01:02 AM
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15. From a metaphysical perspective:
Edited on Sun May-03-09 01:03 AM by Why Syzygy
This is also why the Law of One series refused to use the term "psychic attack," and rather chose "negative greeting." To the enlightened mind, negative greetings are blessings because these entities can ONLY mirror to you what you've already created. The strength of their greeting can never EXCEED what you've created for yourself by your own free will.

Therefore, you're given a chance to balance out your karma and return to a place of perfect balance. People often plague themselves with guilt, believe that they've done something wrong and it will continue to haunt them. Thanks to the increasing intensity of 'thoughts becoming things' as we head towards the end of the cycle, most people's karmic balance is happening almost immediately after they create it… and the objective is not to judge you, but simply to restore you to a place of balance.

So, if you get a karmic blast, the best thing to do is RELEASE any sense of guilt or foreboding. Be grateful that you've cleared whatever it was you'd created, and strive to go the extra mile next time, trying to remain as pure and loving in your orientation as possible.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=70

This reminds me of the old haunted movies, where in the end, the Evil entity one had so blithely used against others turns on the one who called, released and used it for their own nefarious purposes.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 02:58 PM
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11. My tolerance is incredibly low
I cannot take intense sadness, hopelessness, or violence without anything redeeming to go along with it. I soak in painful emotions from the news and even fiction to a high degree, and find I need to be extremely careful or I can loose a lot of time trying to come back from despair or anger. My husband tends to say "you can't watch this" in a loving (though quite funny) way when he sees something coming on the news that he knows will knock my emotions out for hours or even days. I am glad he does because I would rather not battle despair over things I can't do much about, waste of my energy when I might be of use somewhere else.

The funny thing is that when there is a redeeming and uplifting thread in some fiction, I can take violence. I am a HUGE Battlestar Gallactica fan, and though there is violence there is so much about people over coming things and seeking big answers and learning lessons that I didn't have a great problem with it. It was anything but mindless. I still think of the last episode and the spiritual lift it gave me.

I do hopeless stories worse than simply violent ones. When a story offers no hope, or teaches nothing; I just can't take it. I use to love Fantasy and can't even read it much anymore because I used to get a big lift from it and now it is generally very depressing (except for a few authors I still look for). If I want to be depressed I'll just watch CNN! If I want an escape misery isn't what I crave.

I love a good sexy book, as long as there's a lot of kindness and love. Very cool!
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-29-09 03:59 PM
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12. TV Free Here For 7 Years Now
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-01-09 01:11 AM
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13. I agree, we must be aware of what we are seeing and..
allowing our minds to dwell upon.
I also avoid the violent movies etc as things I think about clearly tend to manifest.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-03-09 06:05 AM
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16. I definitely avoid them
I watch very little tv anymore. I can't stand to have the news on with all the screeching and yelling. I keep the volume turned down low and suffer through long enough to get the weather forecast so I'll know if I need to water any baby plants or to plan outings around blizzards. That's about it. I did have it on the other night and was amazed at the craziness of the coverage of the swine, excuse me ;), H1N1 flu.

One thing I noticed is that even if there is a loud argument during a "family" type program, Jakey will hang his head and leave the room.

One thing we learned in my anatomy class last year is that the "primal" brain (I think the temporal lobe? or deeper, in the middle?) can't tell the difference between reality and fiction. So when we subject ourselves to violence in movies or on teevee, that part of our brain sees it as actually happening and triggers all the physiological responses as if it were happening. Watching violence literally changes our brains, how we think, how we perceive, etc.

So it's extremely unhealthy in all respects -- physical, emotional, spiritual, totality, to subject ourselves to it.

The more I don't watch, the harder time I have on the rare occasion that I do. I think by June 12, I'll be totally weaned :)
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