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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:12 AM
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Crop circle that looks like a jelly fish
In the Science forum, someone posted a picture of a new crop circle in Britain. It looks like a jellyfish. Can anyone make sense of this?

Here's a link to the Science forum posting:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=228x52625
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:22 AM
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1. Woah.
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 09:32 AM by MorningGlow
I have no freakin' idea. So I posted a giggle response in the science forum. I remember seeing at least one other crop circle with those circles of decreasing size (o where is that piccie now...?) but the jellyfish top has got me stumped. Anyone else? Bueller? Bueller?

On edit: The jellyfish one hasn't been posted on Crop Circle Connector yet, but I noticed that the series of circles also appears (less detailed) in a portion of a circle that appeared yesterday in Wiltshire:



Other shots and forthcoming comments here: http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/milkhill/milkhill2009.html

On edit AGAIN: the larger picture on the BBC site shows that there are seven descending circles--chakras? That leads me to think that the jellyfish umbrella top is a symbol for the universe/spirit arcing over us, with the tentacles being streams of energy coming down, surrounding us and protecting us.

It also shows that the crop circle makers have a marvelous sense of humor. But we knew that. :)
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:37 AM
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6. Jellyfish is in crop circle connector - look in may
(sorry to post and run like that)

commentors on that site think it's part of a series of circles whose message is to predict a massive solar flare during a prenumberal lunar eclipse in july.

or something like that.

In other places, in recent times, I've read reports of UFOs that looked like jellyfish.

(cue twighlight zone theme)
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:52 AM
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7. Oh! Thanks!
I visited CCC a little while ago and looked at all the circles in May--apparently before that one was added! :hi:

UFOs like jellyfish--yes indeed. I recall that too.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:54 AM
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2. If you look at it
upside down, it could be the seat of the chakras going up. Or, it could be our oversoul downloading info through the crown.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 09:58 AM
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3. If viewed upside down, what is the jellyfish?
Maybe I just don't understand what you meant.

If it's our oversoul downloading info through the crown chakra, then the jellyfish represents the oversoul, right? What are the tentacles?
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:29 AM
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5. Tentacles--knowledge, perhaps?
Energy? Protection? Spirit?
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:52 PM
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19. That's what I would think.
All three. :)
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 04:34 PM
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18. That was my thought as well. n/t
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 10:17 AM
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4. I saw a show where two guys created complex crop circles in a night
They took credit for having done a lot of them. Showed how they did it - 'weaving' the plants together and so forth. All in a few hours.

I thought that crop circles were pretty much debunked in terms of being 'non-terrestial'. Still, they're pretty and pretty cool even as guerrilla art.

I'll try to find a link.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:11 PM
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9. My understanding is . . .
. . . that at "authentic" crop circles, there is a lot going on that resists explanation. I read a book a few years ago called "Secrets in the Fields" that delineated the differences between human caused and unexplainable ones.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:28 PM
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10. We should compare links
What I saw gave a pretty good demonstration of how those 'unexplained' attributes were created. And these guys claimed to have created many circles that people had called 'authentic'. They were happy pranksters. Again, I will look for a link. I saw it many years ago and what I remember is that it was two guys from England.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:43 PM
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16. They created some of them
It is difficult to explain how they could have created the very complex ones. Of course the PTB are more than happy to have a couple of good old boys coming home from the pub take credit for as many as possible. :evilgrin:
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:38 PM
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11. Wikipedia to the rescue
(the article covers different aspects of the question - not just debunking. It's interesting. Anyway, there's a section on those guys from England I was trying to remember)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle

In 1991, two men from Southampton, England, announced that they had conceived the idea as a prank at a pub near Winchester, Hampshire, during an evening in 1976. Inspired by the 1966 Tully Saucer Nests,<20> Doug Bower and Dave Chorley made their crop circles using planks, rope, hats and wire as their only tools: using a four-foot-long plank attached to a rope, they easily created circles eight feet in diameter. The two men were able to make a 40-foot (12 m) circle in 15 minutes.

The pair became frustrated when their work did not receive significant publicity, so in 1981, they created a circle in Matterley Bowl, a natural amphitheatre just outside Winchester, Hampshire—an area surrounded by roads from which a clear view of the field is available to drivers passing by. Their designs were at first simple circles. When newspapers claimed that the circles could easily be explained by natural phenomena, Bower and Chorley made more complex patterns. A simple wire with a loop, hanging down from a cap—the loop positioned over one eye—could be used to focus on a landmark to aid in the creation of straight lines. Later designs of crop circles became increasingly complicated.

Circlemakers.org, a group of crop circle makers founded by John Lundberg, have demonstrated that making what self-appointed cereologist experts state are "unfakeable" crop circles is possible. On more than one occasion, such cereologists have claimed that a crop circle was genuine when the people making the circle had previously been filmed making the circle.[
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:47 PM
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13. So they're still doing it 18 years later?
That doesn't make sense, IMHO.
I thought one of the criteria of a real crop circle is that there's no entrance to the circle from outside, something needed if one created the circle from the ground.
Also, that is one heck of a design, very symmetrical. How could two guys do that in the middle of one night? Remember they'd have to do it all in one night to make sure they weren't seen.
FInally, they'd have to know some astrology. I remember one crop circle seemed to reference a solar eclipse last year.

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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:44 PM
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17. One of the guys died too
I recall reading that anyway. If a dead guy is creating crop circles, now THAT'S some paranormal activity for sure!
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:08 PM
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15. Here's one
Several pages of the differences here. What always strikes me about paranormal stuff is that if 99.9% are hoaxes, and .1% is "real", it still changes everything.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa021802a.htm

. . . On their side, skeptics have cold rationale and the confessions of such crop circle creators as Doug and Dave in the UK. In 1992, Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, two somewhat elderly retirees, came forward and claimed that they had created hundreds of crop circles over the preceding 15 years using a plank of wood, rope and a baseball cap fitted with a loop of wire to help them walk in a straight line. While their claim is called into serious question by some researchers, it is unquestioned that many crop formations have been "hoaxed" by people using little more than a well-planned design and, yes, planks of wood and rope. Such hoaxers have proved before witnesses and television cameras that they can create large, elaborate designs at night in just a few hours.

But what of the assertion that crop formations are created by some supernatural, extraterrestrial or paranormal force? What is the evidence that compels some researchers to conclude that they almost certainly are not manmade? There are peculiarities to "genuine" crop circles, these researchers say, that cannot be created or hoaxed by humans. Here is some of their "best evidence":

Number and Complexity, and Placement

Number and complexity. Some researchers contend that crop formations are too numerous and too complex to all have been made by humans. This may be the weakest argument against them being manmade as it naively underestimates the abilities and ingenuity of some people.

Placement. While most crop circles can be found in readily accessible fields, some are not. Some have been found within restricted areas, according to "Peculiarities of Crop Circles" - "numerous accounts of crop circles appearing inside military installations that are fenced off (quite securely!) from the surrounding area. Most notably in Wiltshire along the Salisbury Plain." This article also points out that several crop circles have been formed away from the farmer's tram lines, which makes it very difficult for the circle makers to hide evidence of their presence. . .
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 11:59 AM
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24. My gut feeling is that the 'jellyfish' crop circle is man made
I like your statement that "if 99.9% are hoaxes, and .1% is "real", it still changes everything". I couldn't agree more.

In looking for those links, it was interesting to read about crop circles. Clearly there's more going on in some of them then I had previously thought. What I found particularly interesting was the people trying to replicate the change to plants - 'elongated apical plant stem nodes' & 'expulsion cavities in the plant stems' by going out with a portable microwave emitter. The idea that hoaxers regularly carry around microwave emitters seems more far fetched than an extraterrestrial explanation ;-)

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:34 PM
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31. Hey, welcome to ASAH, Richard D!
(At least I don't recall seeing you post here before.) :hi:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 06:01 PM
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21. Oh those guys
The debunkers were debunked in many instances, including some circles that appeared instantly, within seconds, while witnesses sat on a hill nearby. Not to mention elements they couldn't have created: unexplained magnetizing within the circles, circles with no entrances (no track of them slogging through the crops--did they parachute in?), the complex weaving of the crop stalks, and no harm done to the crops (people and their tools instead trample them).

I read a book that went into detail about the differences between D&D's circles and the real ones...gotta remember the title...
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 02:39 PM
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12. Richard D is on the right track. nt
Edited on Wed Jun-03-09 02:40 PM by Psychic Consortium
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 11:25 AM
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8. flying spaghetti monster!
Fun circle.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-05-09 09:14 AM
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30. I hadn't thought of that!
But it makes perfect sense.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:03 PM
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14. Here is analysis from Crop Circle Connector
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 05:55 PM
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20. Holy crap!
Everyone needs to go read their explanation - that's pretty amazing!
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 06:03 PM
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22. And we hit on quite a few of the same impressions right here
Hee hee we don't suck, that's for sure! :D
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Psychic Consortium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 06:17 PM
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23. The ASAH group consists of right and left brain talent.
See what you all think and feel about this crop circle.
Use both rational and intuitive abilities.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:25 PM
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25. See the dragonfly?
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 01:27 PM by Desertrose
Wow. This one is impressive!

Click here.

Looks like the body has 10 segments..for "10" planets? ...aligned with the sun (head) Hmmm....

DR
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 01:32 PM
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26. Oh, my!
There are so many details, it's hard to focus. Overall, it looks like a dragonfly. However, the segmented body is kind of like a caterpillar.
Did you notice the two small circles underneath the wings?

If yesterday's and today's crop circles were done by people, they must be pretty tired by now.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 02:57 PM
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27. Hey now!
Me likey...for obvious reasons! (But I didn't do it!) :D
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 07:36 PM
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29. Does it remind you of a caduceus?
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 06:50 PM
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28. The messages are far more complex than something a hoaxer
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 06:55 PM by mother earth
could dream up. I'm greatly intrigued by the knowledge of the eclipses and solar events portrayed in these circles. Surely no one can still believe these could be hoaxes or man made...we aren't that smart. The complexity of these designs and their significance are remarkable beyond man's capacity.

If it is a hoax, than they've got a Carl Sagan mentality, gotta love em for that alone.:applause: We are ants living by a race that is trying to tell us more than we can begin to comprehend.

My feeling is we are all connected by DNA, so complex but somehow similar...GOD is in the DNA...it connects us all. And may 2012 bring us closer to understanding all.
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