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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 08:13 PM
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Psyco Cybernetics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRB6DWuxrMo&feature=related

This is part one. I've only been able to find 1 & 2 with the disabled monitor.

I think this is what some of us need. The book was published 49 years ago! That was the year I started grammer school. This may be the missing key. Current authors skip this part when they talk about Law Of Attraction. The foundation.

When I get back to visual accuity with replacement monitor, I want to copy parts of the book. It may be in public domain already. If not, it should be next year. Unable to :google: just now with good results.

Maxwell Maltz was a cosmetic surgeon who began to wonder why some people with new faces went onto to have positie personality changes and others did not. Some of us have been discussing brain chemicals as they relate to spirituality. What Dr. Maltz tells us is that we are NOT the machine, we possess the machine(ery). IOW those chemicals may produce effects, but it is WE who experience the effects. Not one and the same.

Brief excerpt:
The "self image" sets the boundaries of individual accomplishment. It defines what you can and cannot do. Expand the self image and you expand the "area of the possible." The development of an adequate, realistic self image will seem to imbue the individual with new capabilities, new talents and literally turn failure into success. (...)

)"Positive thinking" does indeed "work" when it is consistent with the indivdual's self image. It literally CANNOT "work" when it is inconsistent with the self image--until the self image itself has been changed.) (...)

I have the book. It's a 21 day program. Ready, go! I am so ready to move beyond the self image I've been carrying for some time. Anyone else? Not that I'm saying anyone needs it... Butu some of us are looking for change. I think in my past, I have known just enough of this to materialize a FEW life situations. Inconsistent. (He says you can't be too "old". So, I'm willing :D Ageism is one of my blocks. I've been feeling very old for a few years. Very unpleasant.

I may have to read any replies in a day or two...
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-04-09 09:05 AM
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1. I love this! Thanks for the link.
Edited on Thu Jun-04-09 09:06 AM by Kind of Blue
:thumbsup: Self-image is indeed key for whether we Allow ourselves to to bring forth our desires from the realm of the un-manifested. This is such a timely post. During work breaks this morning, I caught snippets of Dr. Wayne Dyer on PBS talking about making excuses and self-image. I like working with both the Law of Attraction but spend more time with the Law of Allowing or Allowance and it breaks down to literally how I feel about myself when it comes to certain desires.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-08-09 11:30 AM
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2. Here is another excerpt:
He uses two-three pages describing how there is no such thing as a 'normal' human being. We are all unique and striving to be like someone else is futile. He is also talking about a process of "de-hypnotizing" before building new habits/outcomes.

Physical relaxation plays a key role in the de-hypnotization process. Our currently held beliefs, whether good or bad, true or false, were formed WITHOUT EFFORT, with no sense of strain, and without the exercise of "will power". (...)

It has been amply demonstrated that attempting to use effort or will power to change beliefs or to cure bad habits has an adverse, rather than a beneficial effect.


He then gives four "mental picture" exercises.
1. Just lie down or sit in a comfortable chair and relax muscle groups, without using force or will. Let it be. (This is where I've gone wrong with progressive relaxation techniques. I HATE them. I was trying this a few days ago for a meditation book I've been also reading. I wears me out to think about my toes, ankles, etc. I've been doing it wrong!

Next: In your mind's eye: (btw, he calls the subconscious "no mind". He says it doesn't have a "mind" at all. It is simply a machine that carries out precisely what our (conscious) mind dictates.)

1. See each body part as concrete. Imagine someone tries to lift your leg, etc. but they cannot because the concrete is too heavy.

2. See your body as a marionette doll. All the parts are connected by a string, limp and loose. See yourself lying on the bed this way.

3. See your body as a series of inflated balloons. Valves open on your feet, and the air begins to escape until they are just deflated lying flat on the bed. Proceed through the body.

4. This is a visual of a peaceful place and time. Use all senses, (mind) sight, smells, sounds, taste (if applicable).

These are to be done 30 minutes per day.
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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:09 PM
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5. Thanks, Why Syzygy!
I've never actually tried meditation or de-hypnotizing before tackling building new habits or trying to create new outcomes.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:39 PM
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3. Thanks :)
I love the guy in the video. Anyone who speaks so casually that he uses "friggin" and "crap" in a positive, funny way gets my attention. :)

I read enough of the excerpt to see that I could probably benefit from this, and requested it from my library.

Thanks, Why Syzygy :hug:

In case others have this "lost" feeling as I do of late, the one small excerpt I read dealt with our imagination and ability to create. This was rather synchronistic for me. While I can't do much else right now, I AM paying attention, at least. ;)

This is probably a path all here have walked...the creative visualization approach...and reminders or new ways of seeing and doing things we've previously tried are always good.

I've never had a problem in that regard. I've seen the life I choose to live clearly through the years; nothing extravagant...I would always focus on the "feelings" of joy, wellness, grace and ease. Imagining various aspects of the experience I was creating came easy (I didn't say I successfully manifested, however ;) ).

With the extreme drama of the last few years, I found myself learning to truly live in the moment. One hour at a time. And, learning to do that is no doubt a good thing.

But I realized something a few weeks ago. When I decided to take some time to get quiet and envision and allow myself to "see" and "feel" how I choose to experience this life -- to be more proactive than I have been of late rather than simply "going with the flow" and not even giving energy toward creative visualization -- I got nothin'. I mean, nothin'.

Couldn't see anything, couldn't feel anything, couldn't imagine anything beyond what was right in front of me.

For someone who has ALWAYS been able to do this, it was like someone hit me with a 2 x 4. I think that's when the really dense depression set in. Sorry if I'm not being clear and am rambling -- again...lol -- but this was a very pivotal moment. A dark moment that hasn't lifted. It truly requires effort to smile. It feels pathetic to write that, but it's true.

That's why I say I'm lost. It's very different from the frustration and challenge of knowing what you choose to experience or create and you're stuck for some reason. I can say the words: joy, wellness, grace, ease. I can discuss the different projects I'd like to manifest in a positive way. But I can no longer see it, can no longer imagine how it would feel and can no longer act "as if," as I have throughout my entire life.

That's why this pic is my avatar for now...until I find my way. ;)



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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:04 PM
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4. Thanks for kicking this up!
I didn't realize Why Syzygy had included more :)
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 09:11 PM
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6. Yippee!
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 09:13 PM by Why Syzygy
:bounce: I'm glad it looks like something right for you at this time. Realizing that I can go at my own feeling of despair from a CONSCIOUS level has helped me tremendously. I had really given up on trying to change my "subconscious". Dr. Maltz explains for the first time, that I recall, how innocent the subconscious is in the whole endeavor. I didn't/don't even have a whole batch of positive things to substitute. I just changed my mind when negativities started percolating. I FEEL better than I have in MANY months, going on years...

As I read, I can't help but feel annoyed at times that this information has been available for EONS and yet we are not taught it from the earliest age. I think it comes more naturally to some, and certainly some have parents who are more in tune with it. It has been mentioned for the past 2,000 years, probably since the beginning of time. What a great disservice to humanity that those with the power to influence the population have not included such fundamental knowledge as an important piece of our development. It cannot be used for harm. It would destroy the one wishing to do evil before having an opportunity to do so.

/soap box

Thanks for kicking. I had forgotten about the video. Now I can find the remaining pieces!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-13-09 12:41 AM
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7. I did't realize that the speaker
Edited on Sat Jun-13-09 12:42 AM by Why Syzygy
was James Ray. This renews my respect for him. Evidently there are only two parts x(
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-24-09 09:40 AM
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8. Bruce Lipton
Talks a lot more about the contrast in purpose of the conscious and subconscious minds:

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/blipton.htm

Don't Blame Your Genes!

The groundbreaking work of Dr. Bruce Lipton says its attitude and environment, seldom our genes, that dictates the quality of our health. These hidden agendas that control our state of health reside in the subconscious mind and Dr. Lipton says a little re-programming can work wonders!

Bruce's amazing book The Biology of Belief has become a phenomenon and he is constantly busy on the lecture circuit all over the globe. If you enjoy this interview we suggest you watch Rob Williams interview too as they often work together and the information is a perfect match.

http://www.brucelipton.com/

Videos:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&rlz=1T4GGLL_enUS332US332&q=bruce%20lipton&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

(Oh great. I just realized I even misspelled Psycho-Cybernetics. Couldn't find it with 'search'.) :silly:
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