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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 01:10 AM
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OMG, a lifeless planet is a "functioning organism"!
In GD I was responding to a luddite misanthropist who was bashing terraforming, and I responded by saying that colonization was the biosphere/Gaia reproducing and he/she responded with THAT doozy!

:wow:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 09:21 AM
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1. I dunno. After hearing that we were going to rape the moon...
nothing shocks me anymore. :crazy:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 12:14 PM
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2. UGH, now the "Strict Reductionist" epithet comes out.
Mixed in with more complete ignorance of what the Gaia Hypothesis actually entails. :banghead:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 12:36 PM
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3. Lol
I know that some people think that asteroids might have a bunch of oil and other resources we could possibly mine... Who is going to speak for these poor helpless lifeless hunks of rock!
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 12:50 PM
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4. That's ok; I just learned vegetables must have Life Force
or eating them deadens your soul.

Fuck me. :eyes:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 02:57 PM
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5. so
how does one eat ANYTHING without deadening the soul?
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 07:52 PM
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9. Fully enlightened humans can live on oxygen alone
Geez, you must have heard of the Breatharianites (or whatever the hell they're called).
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:01 PM
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10. what about
Edited on Sun Jun-06-10 08:02 PM by realisticphish
the bacteria that die when your immune system slaughters them?

edit: just to be clear, yes, i know you're kidding :)
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 08:08 PM
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11. Oh stop it with all the sciencey facts and stuff
My personal shaman told me that bacteria was an invention of the corporate-science complex. Really, bacteria are just microscopic crystals and are an important part of our Qi.

Um, or something.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:07 AM
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12. Nah, it's cool to kill animals and trees if you kneel next to them afterwards, furrow your brow and
thank them for their sacrifice.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:23 AM
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13. see, it's PURE that way
I really hate the portrayal of native cultures in film, tv, etc.

One of things to add to my list of "shit I would do if I had a TARDIS" is going back to NA cultures before whites, and seeing what their real religions and spiritual interactions/relationships with nature were really about. New Age wooists pervert NA religion for their own purposes, and I fear that current tribal leaders would be biased towards counteracting the "white" way of thinking. I want to see it pure, when there's no frame of reference for the people themselves. Humans are humans, and I find it hard to believe that NA culture was a great deal different from any other hunter-gatherer/early agrarian society. Sure, there would be differences, but I don't think it would be much different from, say, ancient celts. Of course, there I'm assuming a monolithic NA culture, which of course is not at all the case. I'm in Ohio, so I always picture Eastern woodland tribes, but even then, there are many languages and traditions within that group.

I'm sleepy, hopefully that was fairly coherent :)

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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:33 AM
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14. If I were an animal and some guy shot me and as I lay dying said some mumbo jumbo to make it all
better, I'd like to think my last thought would be deer for "fuuuuuck youuuuuuu"


My great grandma was a native American (Mexicans are American too!). I think the most she ever thanked an animal she butchered was by slipping a chicken under a bucket after she broke its neck so it wouldn't flop around too much.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:14 AM
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19. i wonder
if the mountain lion that took out that hunter a few seconds later muttered a prayer asking for his forgiveness?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:50 PM
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26. Well, given that they hunted the American megafauna to extinction...
Their reputation for being "one with nature" is more than a little undeserved.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:21 AM
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16. I can confirm that Golden Corral will deaden your soul
There's nothing that comes out of their kitchen that isn't inimical to earthbound life.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:48 AM
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17. HEY, I like Golden Corral!
:yoiks:
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 02:57 PM
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6. as already said, just like "bombing the moon"
ROCK DOES NOT POSESS LIFE.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:38 PM
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20. Hey now, I've heard different!
Does that make me a biologist, then? Although the definition of a rock includes "is not alive"...as a geologist, I must say someone at DU is utterly confused!
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 04:06 PM
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7. What a letdown. I read that as "functioning orgasm."
Though that claim wouldn't surprise me much, either. Maybe if somebody...inserted Wilhelm Reich into the living-rock theory.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-06-10 05:09 PM
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8. Oh FSM, that would be hysterical!!!
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 03:55 PM
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27. I felt the Earth move!
Well, it was some planet, anyway. :o
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:13 AM
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15. "It's not toxic, it's natural"
Just saw that in GD. Talking about throwing oil eating bacteria into the Gulf.

Which would be unremarkable, except I've heard that same notion again and again all my life. I think more people believe it than not. Here, have some poison ivy.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:56 AM
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18. That's what they told Socrates.
"All-natural organic hemlock grown in biodynamic gardens."
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:42 PM
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21. Sure, and so is realgar and cinnabar!
arsenic and mercury minerals!
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:06 PM
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22. Sometimes I wonder why you guys try so hard.
It's just DU afterall. :hi:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:09 PM
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23. . . .
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:18 PM
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24. I love that one!
:)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:47 PM
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25. LOL, I used to be that little boy with Asperger's that always corrected the grown-ups.
:)
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