There are four possibilities: precognition, clairvoyance, psychokinesis, experimental design.

laconicsax

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Tue Nov-23-10 05:00 PM
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There are four possibilities: precognition, clairvoyance, psychokinesis, experimental design.

So obviously it's one or all of the first three.

:banghead:

http://www.dbem.ws/FeelingFuture.pdf

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HuckleB

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Tue Nov-23-10 08:50 PM
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1. Gee, thanks.

I really needed this headache.

Ugh.

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Wed Nov-24-10 08:00 AM
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2. and we all know that ONE article that contradicts about 1000 other ones

is abosolutely proof of the supernatural. As soon as I heard it I knew all the dumb ass scientific illiterate woo-woos would feel absolutely justified. If Big Pharma had done this could you imagine the outrage!
I have to go through 10 YEARS of testing...with REAL MEASUREMENTS OF DATA before anything I do is accepted for use...but one woo-woo confirming study is PROOF POSITIVE. God I'm so tired of dumb ass scientific idiots on both sides of the aisle.

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HuckleB

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Wed Nov-24-10 02:46 PM
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3. Daryl Bem and Precognition

http://psychsciencenotes.blogspot.com/2010/11/brief-note-daryl-bem-and-precognition.html

This guy went link crazy, but it does bring this BS down to earth. Not that it should have needed to be done...

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laconicsax

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Wed Nov-24-10 06:03 PM
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4. One of those links is a nice takedown of Bem's study.

http://www.ruudwetzels.com/articles/Wagenmakersetal_subm.pdf

Problem 1: "Confusion between exploratory and confirmatory studies brought about by what we have termed the Bem Exploratoration Model (BEM).
Problem 2: "Insuffiecient attention to The fact that the probability of the data given the hypothesis does not equal the probability of the hypothesis given the data (i.e. the fallacy of the transposed conditional).
Problem 3: "Application of a test that overstates the evidence against the null hypothesis."

I'm tempted to post this paper in Science. Problems one and two is readily apparent if you read Bem's paper--the conclusions of the experiments go out of their way to highlight a likely outlier as evidence of precognition.

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