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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 11:56 AM
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Behavior mod..Dangerous trends



I have been subjected to various kinds of behavior modification in Hospitals I was at during different stays.I was one of these rebellious kinds of patients.A pain in the ass to authoritarians. I was put on a Behavior mod unit..And I hated the behavior mod games,the silly "point sheets" and the store " set up to "spend" points, It was crass humiliating and dehumanizing(In rebellion I staged a hiest,I held up the point store in the hospital with a supersoaker..and it was hilarious It ruined the point ledger books too.).

On the surface this kind of shit looks benign but living through it you begin to feel like a performing dog jumping up for treats on command. If you don't jump eventually the staff will try the punish mode if you refuse to go along with"treatment". Behavior modification was no "sucess" story for me. It started a psychological war and I will not be broken by the likes of bullies...and I am traumatized from it all.

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*By Dave McGowan*
August 2000

*" technologies are conditioning a growing segment of the society to regard all deviance as sickness and to accept*
* increasingly narrow standards of acceptable behavior as scientifically normative ... Together the new programs and technologies*
* are part of a burgeoning establishment involving welfare institutions, universities, hospitals, the drug industry, government at*
* all levels, and organized psychiatry (itself in large part a creation of government) ... The ideal, in the view of the behaviorists, is*
* the paranoid's dream, a method so smooth that no one will know his behavior is being manipulated and against which no*
* resistance is therefore possible ... There is no longer a set of impositions which he can regard as unjust or capricious and against*
* which he can dream of rebelling. To entertain such dreams would be madness. Gradually, even the ability to imagine*
* alternatives begins to fade. This is, after all, not only the best of all possible worlds; it is the only one."*
* Peter Schrag Mind Control, Pantheon 1978*

"In his Orwellian titled book, Physical Control of the Mind: Toward a Psychocivilized Society, Delgado wrote that "the integration of neurophysiological and psychological principles to a more intelligent education, starting from the moment of birth and continuing throughout life, with the preconceived plan of escaping from the blind forces of chance and of influencing cerebral mechanisms and mental structure in order to create a future man with greater personal freedom and originality, a member of a psychocivilized society, happier, less destructive, and better balanced than present man."

He supported the mass drugging of America with "tranquilizers, energizers, and other psychoactive drugs," which he claimed were "highly beneficial both for patients and for relatively normal persons who need pharmacological help to cope with the pressures of civilized life." Lobotomy was proposed as the answer to crime: "the possibility of surgical rehabilitation of criminals has been considered by several scientists as more humane, more promising, and less damaging for the individual than his incarceration
for life."


Where these quotes on Dlegado ..ect.are from...
http://www.geocities.com/maymartin2001/pandemonium00083 ...


See an examples...of this drugging of America..here:
http://www.unknownnews.org/050426mentalhealth.html
http://www.neurodiversity.com/psychiatry.html

....."Delgado also made the rather remarkable observation that: "In some old plantations slaves behaved very well, worked hard, were submissive to their masters, and were probably happier than some of the free blacks in modern ghettos." Ahh, the good old days. Delgado next noted that: "In several dictatorial countries the general population is skillful, productive, well behaved, and perhaps as happy as those in more democratic societies."
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Could this be the modern eqivalents?

http://slate.msn.com/id/2108083 /
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" Five years after penning his manifesto, Delgado appeared before the U.S. Congress and proclaimed: "We need a program of psychosurgery for political control of our society. The purpose is physical control of the mind. Everyone who deviates from the given norm can be surgically mutilated ... The individual may think that the most important reality is his own existence, but this is only his personal point of view. This lacks historical perspective ... Man does not have the right to develop his own mind."



(read about Haldol Implants, Not developing the mind indeed..)
http://www.pmhca.org/pages/newsletters/visions_fall_200 ...


(Some schools now use a Time out room now.. which is the same as a seclusion/restraint room like you see in Mental hospitals) but for "problem" schoolkids.) and 5 year olds get arrested for being"unruly" too. Do you see where this is going folks?...

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"Some call the small padded room at the Farley Elementary School a "safe place" for children with severe behavioral issues. One mother called it a prison. "

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg ...

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I call "quiet rooms" a form of behavior modification/incarceration. Behavior modification to me is a nicey name for psdychological sometimes physical torture.Quiet rooms are not"safe" if the staff are not safe to be around without witnesses.
Isolation can be torture...(institutions like schools and Mental hospitals (don't know if it applies to prisions or not) can legally keep someone locked in a room indefinately as long as they get out for 15 minutes every two hours.)

So the woman's child in the linked article,above could have been kept in the room for hours for real. Before this law limiting seclusion and restraint was passed a few years back I was kept in a room for months when I was a "troubled adolesent" Overcoming trauma.. In the name of Behavior modification I was tortured more.)And Mental hospitals will ignore the laws too..People end up dead..I kid you not.

A mental hospital is a little enclave of fascism a total envioronment where all your rights as a human being can be taken away.

http://www.nj.com/news/expresstimes/nj/index.ssf?/news /...
http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=1-158648161 ...
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"The harsh reality is that psychology has little to do with bettering the human condition and alleviating suffering, and everything
to do with lending legitimacy to the corporate capitalist state and justifying as individual failings the ever increasing levels of
suffering inflicted by the state onto society. As Frederick Winslow Taylor - the exalted father of 'scientific management,' an early
euphemism for the deskilling of labor and the reduction of the American labor force to interchangeable, easily exploited automatons
- so succinctly stated many decades ago: "in the past the man had been first; in the future the system must be first."
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A world without labor..
http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20050228/1523 /
http://www.ismretail.com/articles/2002_02/020202.htm
http://www.ispso.org/Symposia/Toronto/1999stein.htm
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"..... we are all victims of one of the big lies of American society - the one that says that if we educate ourselves, work hard and apply our talents, there is absolutely nothing we cannot achieve. We are taught from birth that anyone in this great country can rise up to the highest strata of society if we so choose, that if we have the drive and ability, nothing can hold us back. George W. Bush articulated this very message from the campaign trail recently when he said: "One of the wonderful things about America is, it doesn't matter who you are or where you're from. If you work hard, dream big, the notion of owning your own business applies to everybody."

Conversely, if we should fail we have no one but ourselves to blame, for we must not be smart enough, talented enough, or educated enough - or we just didn't try hard enough. The brutal reality though is that in the real world, the sons of the rich and powerful will assume their fathers' seats in the boardrooms of America regardless of their qualifications (George, Jr. being a primemexample), while the most talented of kids from America's 'inner cities' will live and die without ever seeing the world beyond the confines of their neighborhoods.That is the reality for the majority of Americans. And yet we are encouraged, in fact required, to set goals for ourselves that are impossible to attain, to buy into the Big Lie. When we inevitably fail to achieve these goals, which the social structure has deliberately put out of our reach, we are required to blame only ourselves.

The system has not failed you, you have failed because you are a fucking loser. You're too fucking lazy to succeed. You're too fucking stupid to succeed. So stop looking for scapegoats and accept the fact that you determine your own fate. ..."
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That quote above, THAT is the LIE!! That is what they want us(common people) to believe....and ther'll torture us to make us act like we believe it,Torture Iraqis,torture anyone,they'll even torture our kids to make them obey authority and work a lifetime for what is made impossible because of this unspoken inequality..No wonder so many kids commit suicide now,,why drugs are such a problem,why depression is so bad..It's no mystery to me.

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Jun 27, 2004 - A new plan by the Bush administration to test the nation's public school population for mental disorders and treat them with controversial drugs has raised an alarm among some medical science watchdogs and members of the mental health community.

The White House is expected to announce a mental health and disability initiative that recommends the screening and treatment of the country’s K-12 students. The plan is based on a Texas program a government whistleblower has called "a Trojan horse" for pharmaceutical companies.


http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&it ...
http://www.unknownnews.org/050426mentalhealth.html
http://www.unknownnews.net/040712a-upits.html

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I am scared for America if we do not wake up and see the danger in trusting these people with our experinces our minds and the truths we see with our minds, expireinces and emotions ourselves.We must not klet other people tell us how we should be or what we think we should want.People that create and protect this system want us to believe that big lie about ourselves..THis society is built upon LIES that HURT so many people inside! It has to stop somewhere.


Straight A's
By the Dead Kennedys...

Sixteen, on the honor roll
I wish that I was dead
Parents hate me, I got zits
And bruises 'round my head

Pressure's on to get good grades
So I can be like them
Do my homework all the time
I can't go out just then

People they ain't friends at all
They tease and suck me dry
Yell at me when I fuck up
And party while I cry
I look so big on paper
I feel so fucking small
Wanna die and you don't care
Just stride on down the hall

Suicide suicide
Read the paper, wonder why
Turn the light out, then you cry
It's your fault, you made me die

Touch me won't you touch me now
So frozen I can't love
When I was born my mama cried
And picked me up with gloves

Girls, they kick me in the eye
Want answers to the tests
When they get them they drive off
And leave me home to rest

Hold my head
Make me warm
Tell me I am loved
Give me hope
Let me cry
Make me feel
Give me touch

The window's broken bleeding screaming
Lying in the hall
I'm gone no one remembers me
A picture on the wall
"He was such a bright boy
The future in his hands…"
—Or a spineless human pinball
Shot around by your demands

Suicide suicide
Goin' to sleep and when I die
You'll look up and realize
Then look down and wipe your eyes
Then go back to your stupid lives
Aw shit !
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 12:08 PM
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1. If i didn't know better....
i'd think i was dreaming. i'm stunned... i recently started writing about lies, and how our identity as a country as well as individuals is so distorted because of the lies of a generation. Your post is a gift to eyes like mine.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 12:13 PM
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2. Yes
Some psychologists can be dangerous.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/dec03/religion.html
http://www.apa.org/books/4317620r.html
http://www.apa.org/books/4316036.html

I was told by a couple professors that they wanted to be rid of religion. Now they are trying to convert people. Psychologists are too dangerous now especially whith their focus on money, conformity (I got screwed by a prof for thinking on my own), and APA as authority on life.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-05 01:45 PM
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3. Controlling the masses......
I believe this is why you see so many pharmaceutical drug ads on TV now. This administration would rather stupify us (and of course help the corporations to make a profit at the same time.

Chapter 32 of U.S. Code Title 50 restricts testing of human subjects for chemical or biological agents EXCEPT the U.S. reserves the right to test human subjects for these EXEMPTIONS:

"Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, theraputic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity.

http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/US_Code.html

This also means that they can test human subjects on a mass scale.

There are many websites on the internet with evidence that they have already done, and are still doing this.

Scary!:scared: I certainly do not trust them.
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carl_pwccaman Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:42 PM
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4. System Doctors Vs. Independent
Often there is a huge difference, between doctors who have a role in a psychiatric hospital, those who are independent therapists, and others.

If one's job has nothing to do with keeping the peace with psych nurses, orderlies, and the politics of a psych ward, then at least one set of compromising influences may be less powerful.

Therapists who don't work in psych hospitals, or who don't buy into the system's demands despite doing some work there, can collaborate with peopel, partner with them, or observe patterns that can be helpful, and help someone make some choices about what might be helpful to them.

But in a hospital, if the staff gets irritated at someone, they do have absolute power. And that is dangerous. When the staff knows someone enough to despise them, there is potential danger. When the staff is in charge long-term in a system that looses people as numbers and always has the excuse 'for their own good' things are incredibly dangerous.

Accountability is still an issue in hostpitals and treatment programs, especially residential treatment.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:15 PM
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5. Behavior mod is all about control. It can be useful when

you use it to help yourself learn new habits. but using it on others is problematic. I taught for one rather miserable year in a school where behavior mod was God. Not as bad as the mind games played in a psych hospital, but bad enough. We had to give the kids tokens for good behavior, which led to them running scams, stealing tokens, etc. Behavior was worse there than in schools that didn't use behavior mod where I'd taught earlier. But the principal was convinced it worked. :crazy:
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