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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:52 AM
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Well, this might have been my last post at DU.. We will see.Weigh in if you like.
I am being flamed away but it is how I feel.I didn't like the sexism I saw on DU today and said so.Oops.

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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 06:45 AM
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1. I just gave you what I hope are a couple of supportive posts, saracat.
Some of what was being discussed is somewhat my "area," so I tried to help. So far, there's been a lot of inaccurate BS posted, IMO. Thank you for posting what you did. It needed to be addressed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:13 PM
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6. You are welcome. I just couldn't take it anymore.It seemed post after post was littered withn thi
and it was acceptable.Racism and homophobia are jumped on right away at DU but the sexism is being openly "supported".I am ashamed of this place really.
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 07:41 AM
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2. Don't go! Whether we agree or not with everything you say,
you have a right to say it. Isn't that what we are all here for?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:16 PM
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7. I am not doing anything drastic but apparently DU is not very conducive to gender equality.
which horrifies me as a "liberal".And apparently some do not think I have the "right' to say it.But thank you for the kind words.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:24 PM
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11. It has never been.
Were you here when the fight to ban the "c" word was going on?

It is unbelieveable to me that this many years since the second wave of feminism started, and we're still fighting words of hate among so-called "progressives".

But, then, the hatred towards people in poverty is no different...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:33 PM
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12. Indeed. I seem to remember that. I can also recall something about a "B" word.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 04:34 PM by saracat
But the scary nature of this current era is the "subtlety" . it is just "accepted' opely as well as "promoted. And you are correct, I have seen similar posts regarding poverty.

My post however was just dealing with the sexism issue as DU had exploded in sexism over the Chelsea incident. Reading those posts and then hearing Bill Maher alerted me to just how alike DU and Maher's thinking was.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 04:36 PM
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13. Don't forget the darling, Jon Stewart, also.
*I* am offended by "douchbag".

My point about poverty is that it's the same process... denigrate those perceived as lower than you.

If this is the "progressive" way, then the mighty have indeed fallen.

Where's the outrage?

ps... one of the people here who fought this righteously, Katherine, finally gave up in disgust from the lack of support she received. I miss her.
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 10:26 AM
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3. Don't leave, we need you
DU has been especially toxic lately, and it's hard sometimes to get a rational discussion going. I've logged out several times over the past few weeks, with the idea of not returning, but here I am. When it gets ugly out there, hang out here here in the Edwards supporters group. We've got your back.:grouphug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:17 PM
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8. Thank you MS.Deeds. You are very kind and I appreciate it. It is indeed 'toxic" out there.
What asad state of affairs we have been brought to.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:34 AM
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4. Two K's and an R from me.
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 11:35 AM by asdjrocky
I just have so little time for this place any more. It's much more fun building something (over there, you know where) than sitting around fighting with a bunch of ninnies.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:19 PM
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9. Thank you Rocky.You always have my back! And I agree. I just couldn't keep my mouth shut.
I was really offended by the sexist remarks that were being posted all day.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:34 AM
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5. I responded to your post
And I agree with you. But really, Bill Maher is a mysogynist ass. I stopped watching his show a while ago because of his obvious disdain for women.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:22 PM
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10.  I agree with some of what Bill says(politically) and have been loathe to "boycott his show"
Edited on Sun Feb-10-08 12:24 PM by saracat
but his misogynist side has always bothered me. However that remark caught me off guard. And it was so "accepted" by everyone.He just breezed right by with it. I realized that it was even worse here on DU and some posters proved me right even in the thread itself.The lack of education in this nation is appalling.And it seems that is what feeds this bigotry and sexism.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 08:15 PM
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14. would a heart-y change your mind?
You're right about the sexism; please don't let the sexists get you down. The terrorists would win!
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For PaisAn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 09:17 PM
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15. Don't go
we need you.
2 hearts for you.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:53 PM
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16. NOPE.
No way can ya leave.

You don't know it, but you have been a leanin' post for me for some weeks.

I have appreciated and admired your posts for some time.

What's so funny, is that I had never put anyone on 'ignore' (after 3-1/2 yrs here) until about 2-1/2 or 3 weeks ago. When I went to the thread you linked, a whole BUNCH of posters were not there!

Nah. Ya cannot leave. You have been a VERY, VERY important DUer to me during these times. You were very important to me in supporting John.

Sometimes I think about the old saying, "Turn sideways, to appear a smaller target. They will not know how large and powerful you really are."

The current bullshit at DU is calculated to intimidate and frustrate. You must stay here as one who I listen to.

Turn sideways. Let the arrows miss you. Turned sideways, you can still carry your own full quiver and can shoot as you please.

You musn't leave, because you gave me strength.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 11:55 PM
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17. DU needs you, saracat.
Your voice has always been a beacon of sanity amidst all the craziness in the GD forums.

And besides, how could someone with so many "secret admirers" turn her back on us and just walk away?
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 01:46 AM
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18. Please don't leave
Very few here inspire me anymore, however, you continue to do so daily.
Take a deep breath...step away for a few days if you must.
Personally, I think that there was some secret group freeper project and they took control.
The things that I have seen here lately make me cringe and are in no way progressive.
It's been really hard to be around.:(
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-11-08 02:05 AM
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19. K and R
Hi saracat.
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