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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 07:25 PM
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CAUCUS GOERS
would anybody who attended a caucus in a caucus state and noticed some irregularities please DU email me privately?

Thanks.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 09:29 PM
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1. can i add..if you are in a caucus state please take a movie camera or cell phone
that does live film and please watch the parking lots where you are caucusing..look for anything unusal..like liquor being given to people to go inside and caucus..

or money or "gifts" being given to people by cars..

and if you have gotten film of anything unusual please let me or the op know..

but please if you are in a caucus state be aware of what is going on around you..watch to see if certain people are being kept by one of the candidates "out in the halls"..that leads to neighbors not being able to know if the caucus goer's are really their neighbors.

look at people ..talk to them ..ask them if they indeed are your neighbors.

fly

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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:37 PM
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2. Thanks Fly. What we are looking for
is people who have seen caucus goers being bused in from other states.
There are reports that some of the caucus voters (Iowa and Washington) were not
known by the regular caucus voters. That they were kids, bused in from other states, that their credentials weren't checked, that their ID was not checked to
see if they were residents of that state and so on.

Also if any of them have told you they were paid to caucus. And if you were told
how mcuh.

And yes, we are talking about democratic caucuses.

The media has commented on the fact that Obama supporters have the caucuses down pat, they know how to do it.

Yes that's true - but we are hearing that how they know how to do it - is not the legal way to do it.

If you have the proof - write it up , e mail me privately at DU, and lets put a stop to election corruption.

If those caucuses have been fixed, then the winner was not the winner.

Do something that our congress refuses to do. Our patriotic duty to restore America and stop the election fraud.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:53 PM
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3. that is why i suggested what i did ..i have people looking for tape from Iowa..
i was a precinct co-captain in Iowa at a large caucus and yes we believed there were serious abnormal things that occured....but we can't prove it without pictures...or proof.

no one in Iowa was prepared to prove there were cheaters...we did not have cameras.

but we can make sure others in other states take picutres from this point forth..

and another game they play is keeping one group of people out in hallways so the neighbors can't see who is voting for one of the candidates ..and know they are not their neighbors.

some drunks were brought into where i was a co-captain..and a few people spoke no english at all..i know i tried to speak to them..
several of the edwards voters went into the hall way and did not recognise one person there to caucus for this particular candidate from their neighborhood...and one man had caucused there for 37 years.

we can not accuse any candidate or his reps.. without proof..i don't give specifics..with out proof.

I do not want to be sued..and some lawyers ( i met while campaigning) have told me to be careful how phrase things.


but if there are any people here who know someone in a caucus state, please tell them to take a camera with them..and note anything unusual.

thanks..fly

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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:42 AM
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5. Fly, I am not looking for photos and film, and I question whether
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 11:47 AM by kelligesq
the lawyers who warned you were dem party lawyers?

You have enough information to write a report as long as you put in dates,
time, place and detail.

Was there a sign in list?
Were ALL caucus goers signing the list?
Were caucus goers asked for ID to prove they were residents of the state and
the county?

What county, city, and address of caucus did this take place in.

If you were a co-captain Were you a member or resident of that county/state or an outsider yourself?

If you were a legitimate co-captain and bonafide resident of the state and county area, please write up a detailed report of what YOU saw - not what you heard, but what you yourself saw, and e mail it to me privately at DU or go over to Edwards Movement Continues where under "Political Action" we have a column about it.

I'll take care of the rest.



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Hermes Daughter Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 01:07 AM
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4. A person to contact re the caucus fraud
Kelligesq and Fly, this is what I posted on another thread but it gives you the contact info from a firsthand observer in Iowa. I googled "illinois people caucusing iowa johnedwards" and then hit "cached" under the entry. Here's the original post from johnedwards.com. Hope it helps in the investigation. I'm in Boston so we didn't caucus. I'd love to do what I can though to take this on. Good work!

POST FROM johnedwards.com

Students Bussed in from Illinois (none / 0)

I spoke with a precinct capt. in IA last night..she said she saw tons of new faces at her precint's caucus in IA, and she recognised none of them...She had canvassed her entire precinct before the caucus, so she would have a good idea of who is in her precinct, right?

She also says that students from IL and IN were paid $250 each and bussed into IA for the caucuses. She heard several of them saying they lived out of state on the night of the caucus.

Is there any way we can get this info. to someone? The public needs to know about this.

Contact me at callan7@frontiernet.net

by Readyforachange (callan7@frontiernet.net )
on 1/18/2008 at 7:11 PM EST
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:50 AM
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6. Hermes Daughter
love the name :)
That's exactly the information that is needed. but not by hearsay.

Is callan7 the person who spoke with a precinct captain, do you know?

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