BATTLE (battle, battle) of the BLACK (black, black) Republicans!

Place your bets!

In this corner, we have Colin Powell, ass-kicking, New York born former 4-star general, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State. Military man, war enabler, bad liar (See UN presentation on Iraq war buildup).



In this corner we have Michael Steele, boot licking former Lt. Governor of Maryland. Professional sycophant who can't turn on Barack Obama and all perceived "RINO's" fast enough to appease his illiterate Republican overlords.



What do you guys think?? Personally, I think that BOTH of them are losers but Steele make me want to :puke:.

I thought he was the cat's pajamas. I loved his personal history; rising through the ranks of the notoriously racist US military to become the country's first black Chairman of the JCS. I loved the work he did through his group America's Promise and thought that this man would become the first black President of the United States.

And then he hooked up with W. The rest, is tragically, history...

I will give him credit though - Powell really does seem to be trying to redeem himself in the last 2 years. He and his former Chief of Staff, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, have been clowning Bush and especially Cheney lately; and he endorsed Obama last year.

Bush Cheney clowns. I still can't understand why if he knew the rationale behind Bush's pet war was bullshit didn't he resign. Can you imagine what would have happened if he had? It would have sent signals out that were paid attention to a hell of a lot more than the anti-war protesters who were basically ignored by the MSM.

<sigh>

I can only speculate that quitting wasn't in his nature and that's why he didn't do it.

I am unlike many on this web site in the sense that I won't demonize Powell. I refuse to saddle up and ride with that posse. Everyone else can if they need to. For me, that he got out when he got out sent a loud message about the rest of the bush regime, for whom I have no kind words. I understand that doesn't cut it for others, but that is for them to resolve, not me.

As for steele, he is a buffoon. He has no credibility at all. When he went with his hat in his hand to limpfuck, that's when I lost what little respect for his ignorant ass I once had. He told the truth on Hughley's show and he should never have moved from that. He should have been willing to take his asswhippin' for his truth and he chose not to. He is not a man of his convictions if it took that little for him to turn tail and run.

That's why Bush/Cheney tried so hard to pretend that THEY were the ones who ordered it. But it was obvious it was Powell's decision all of the way and he'd made it because he was sick of their sh*t and couldn't wait to get away from them.

Yeah, I portrayed this as Steele vs. Powell, but I really should say that it's Powell/Steele vs. the Republican Party. Interesting that it's two black men who are front and center trying to reclaim the "lost soul" of the Republican Party from the likes of Limbaugh and Cheney.

Actually, with Michael Steele, who the hell knows what he's trying to do?? He's such a lily-livered, @ss-kissin @sshole. He's probably just doing whatever the RNC microchip in his stupid head tells him to do.

You are EXACTLY right. Why didn't Powell just freaking resign?? Why play along with Bush's charade knowing that innocent people would be slaughtered and that one of the oldest civilizations in the world would be blown to bits because of a personal vendetta against Saddam??

Powell has been accused of playing "good soldier" and because his CiC appealed to his military code of honor, he went ahead with the lie because that's what "good soldiers" do. He destroyed his name, his legacy, and damn near broke the military in the process of standing behind that idiot's "crusade." I honestly believe that he is anguished over it and that's one of the reasons he has been trying so hard to redeem himself.

I do understand that Powell put efforts in place so that members of the reserves, the more professional members of the armed forces (dentists, bankers etc.) had to fight alongside the usual (black and brown, of course) military grunts in Iraq. I guess that was Powell's way of trying to evenly distribute the misery that he was helping to inflict.

Powell put the "members of the Reserves fight too" clause in play when he was Chairman of JCS. It was his way of trying to ensure that politicians thought long and hard before sending people off to war. He was hoping that the knowledge that not just the professional "grunts" would be sent off to slaughter and be slaughtered would have a sobering effect on Congressional declarations of war.

We know how well that turned out...

he allowed himself to be put out front and center on the Iraq issue. He still has more intelligence and class than steele could ever hope for. mikey is a tool of the worse kind. I don't know how he manages to sleep at night.

To have such great respect for someone and then see it misused. See W and Cheney are evil, but not stupid. Well, Cheney anyway.

They KNEW that Colin Powell commanded more respect in his crusty little toe than the entire executive branch during the buildup to the Iraq War. And they USED the respect and admiration that the country felt for him to sell this war to the American public. You could see it in Powell's face when he gave his presentation before the UN that he didn't buy a word of it but he was doing what he felt he had to do.

And even though the White House tried to play down when he stepped down as SoS and even tried to allude that Bush and/or Cheney had wanted him replaced, there is no doubt in my mind at least that he quit because he was so disgusted with that administration. Shoot, the way that Cheney has been acting towards Powell lately has pretty well confirmed that.

I have not completely given up on Colin. I am disheartened and a bit disillusioned, but I still find his overall history very impressive and inspirational. Now, Michael Steels is a whole 'nother issue.

accurate description of Steele I've heard. Steele is a 'hood ornament' for the Republican party.
Colin Powell. Yesterday on face the nation, I believe, he said he is a republican but has always voted for whom he felt was the best candidate. This statement was followed by his admission that he also voted for W, twice. As intelligent as I know he is, I just can't wrap my head around such an obvious contradiction.

This statement was followed by his admission that he also voted for W, twice.

Talk about buyer's remorse. :scared:

The occasion was the opening of a school of international studies at The George Washington University.

The school is a few blocks north of the State Department in Foggy Bottom.

he used the occasion to give the most repulsive commercial for Bush foreign policy. The students treated him like a rock star when he came in, their eyes were glazed by the time his 40-minute speech was over. He was revolting, really.

He became a whore for the Bushes. He sold himself. I have no respect.

And quite frankly baffled. Out of all the administrations to sell your soul to, he chose BUSH's? The worst one EVER??

But as disillusioned as I am, I can't say that I have no respect for the man. I respected him for years so even though my disgust is high, it hasn't completely obliterated the fact that I once thought so highly of this man.

I have no respect left for Powell, who didn't have the integrity to resign after lying to the UN, and having the lie revealed. Steele is just an idiot who thought that the repubs actually had respect for him--what a maroon! :rofl:

Hey, you stupid tools! There are no black senior state or federal ELECTED republicans for a reason! :crazy:

There are no black senior state or federal ELECTED republicans for a reason!

Well, there WAS JC Watts and then there's.... er...

Well, what about....??

Er, I mean, how about...??

Dammit! You're right! :rofl: