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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:55 AM
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Bob Herbert: Innoncence is no Defense (Harvard Cops and Black Students/Staff)
Last August the president of Harvard University, Drew Gilpin Faust, set up a committee to respond to the concerns of black faculty members and students who were uneasy, and in some cases upset, about the treatment of blacks by the campus police.

The arrest last month of Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. did not occur in a vacuum. While his encounter was not with the Harvard University Police Department (he was arrested by a member of the Cambridge force), it was the latest in a series of troubling incidents that have left law-abiding members of the Harvard community feeling as though they were unfairly targeted and humiliated because of their race.

The incident that ultimately led Ms. Faust to establish the committee concerned a black high school student who was working in a youth employment program at Harvard. The Harvard police, responding to a phone call, spotted the youngster attempting to remove a lock from a bicycle. He tried to explain that the bike was his and that his key had broken off in the lock.

One of the officers reportedly pulled a gun and pointed it at the teenager. The frightened youngster said he did not have any photo identification, but he showed the officers his library card. Traumatized, he started to cry at one point. When the boy’s story was eventually confirmed, he was allowed to leave with his bike.

In 2004, the campus police stopped S. Allen Counter, a distinguished professor of neuroscience at the Harvard Medical School as he was strolling across Harvard Yard. Professor Counter, who is black and had been at Harvard for 30 years when the incident occurred, was viewed by the police as a robbery suspect. They asked him if he belonged at Harvard.

He did not have his identification with him. In a particularly humiliating ritual, the officers went to University Hall and asked two students to confirm that the professor had an office there. They did.

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Nworah Ayogu, a senior who is studying neurobiology, told me about a well-known incident that occurred in 2007 when a number of black students were playing games like dodge ball and capture-the-flag on the Quad as part of an annual field-day-type celebration. White students called the Harvard police to investigate.

The police showed up on motorcycles and asked the black students for identification, even though the students were wearing all kinds of Harvard regalia — caps, crimson T-shirts with “Harvard” emblazoned in white, and so forth. Mr. Ayogu said the cops actually seemed to be embarrassed by the situation and were not confrontational.

“The whole thing made us feel like we didn’t belong,” he said. “What was most offensive was that our own classmates called the police on us.”



http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/04/opinion/04herbert.html?_r=1
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 06:16 PM
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1. This article should be required reading for every clueless white person who asks:
Edited on Tue Aug-04-09 06:19 PM by Number23
"Well why don't we have a WHITE student union??!' or "Why is there no WHITE student association??one!"

:mad: :grr: :mad:

ETA: Oh my dear God:

"No one is too young. I traveled to Avon Park, Fla., a couple of years ago to write about the arrest of a black 6-year-old named Desre’e Watson. She threw a tantrum in her kindergarten class. The police were called, and the terrified child was arrested, handcuffed (the handcuffs were too large to fit her wrists, so she was cuffed on her upper arms) and driven off to headquarters."

I have no words.
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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 06:40 PM
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2. Post-racial Amerikkka? Sure...
NOT. And white people wonder why can't we talk about race in america? :eyes:
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 07:41 PM
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3. Really!
That this discussion is taking place in AAIG where no one but us will see it is telling.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 09:52 PM
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4. How many real issues are being ignored while this happens?
I work in Cambridge and grew up in this area. The first time I was accused of shop lifting was in Harvard Sq. A few years ago a cop in Harvard Sq. shoved my brother around and threatened him in front of numerous witnesses. While his partner pulled him away my brother called a friend of ours who is a cop. After he hung up the cop that was pulled away came back and started up again. My brother's phone rang and he asked the cop to answer. He did and before the person on the other line could speak he threatened him. Officer friendly didn't realize it was a judge on the line. In the end he was suspended without pay and had to attend anger management classes.

Today I was walking around before work and saw a man on Mass Ave with a sign that read "Why lie? I need crack." The area is safer than it was years ago but there are still problems. There was recently a shooting in the area(From what I hear one of the cops investigating it was a real winner :eyes:). Meanwhile some would rather create problems for people simply living while black when they should be resolving problems.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 10:36 PM
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5. Everytime I read stuff like this I just feel sick. What makes it worse
is when people try to convince you that there are no problems! :grr:
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-04-09 11:59 PM
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6. ice cube said it best....
...with nwa.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYHfRQ6Nn1c

:grr::mad:


(graphic language and content...apologies).

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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:08 AM
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7. He surely wasn't lying....
I can remember bopping my head to that song and not thinking too much of it...now my boys are 16 & 21 and the same shit is still happening.
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 12:17 AM
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8. while watching this clip,
...before linking here, i listened to the whole thing. there are parts that made me want to cry. it's scary how accurate it is, even today. :(


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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-05-09 10:58 PM
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9. It truly is.....when I was watching it, I was reminded of just how young
I was when it first came out...now all these years later, not a damn thing has changed. It's truly sad. My youngest is mad at me now because I haven't taken him to get his license. I forbid my husband from taking him as well.(I threatened to quit my job from stress if he takes him..tee hee :)) I just can't deal with it right now, especially in this damn hell town I'm living in now. Girl, you guys will have to get me out of jail if my child gets harassed, and I KNOW it's going to happen.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 03:24 AM
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10. I remember, couple of 5 or so years back, when someone took MC Ren's advice...
Took out a cop with a high powered rifle and a scope near the 35th Ave overpass in Oakland.

Now the over pass is named after the cop.

There's nothing but street altars of flowers and pictures for anyone else killed in Oakland...

Near as I can tell, one of the Riders is still at large in Mexico... the others all got off scott free... we'll see about Mehserle...

I still remember Tipper Gore crusading against NWA, same as against the Dead Kennedy's... I remember stores having to pull that and Too Short off the shelves... for fear of what the Police would do...

Apparently I'm an asshole for not voting for Al Gore after he supported Tipper's efforts... se la vie.
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LooseWilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-06-09 06:23 AM
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11. It's rather sad...
I'm just taking a guess, trying to make some sort of sense of cop sensibilities that make this sort of thing ok in their own eyes... and I find myself thinking of the taxi business.

It's a dangerous business, like law enforcement (moreso, according to the police)... and it often times involves interaction with communities that those on the job may not be familiar with...

Unfortunately, I've seen many taxi drivers decide that it is easier to just "write off" the African American community as "bad people", rather than judge the community like any other community. I get the feeling that many cops do the same. This sort of mental laziness on the part of community involved workers is... beyond frustrating. The justifications for mental laziness/outrightly bigoted behavior are appalling...and yet, in some circles, they are condoned and even justified.

Of course... the police get special consideration... or all these assholes would be fired/prosecuted. An ideal world....
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