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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:28 PM
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Domestic violence sanctioned and aided by US Military?
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 05:30 PM by IanDB1
Below is a completely unconfirmed and un-vetted post I found on a right-wing message board.

Whatever the truth of the story is, unless this is a complete hoax, someone is most certainly in torment whether by real or imagined dangers, and deserves help and support.:
http://tinyurl.com/cexre

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My name is Nancy H.
Until now , I have been to terrified to speak out about the horror experienced by me and my Children.
Only by the GRACE OF GOD am I alive.
I now realize that simply breathing is not living.
I must tell my story.
I am a victim of domestic violence .. sanctioned and aided by the US MILITARY.
I have been stalked and targeted by some covert military operation., because I uncovered the Police State control they have over all Civilian law enforcement including the Court System in Tennessee.(Ft Campbell)
They have infiltrated every aspect of my life.
I can not find employment, when I do find a minimum paying job,they make sure that I lose it .
Friends and family will not speak to me.
I am about to give up.
I know that unless someone helps me, I will not make it.

My husband was an officer in the United States Army.I stood faithfully beside him for
19 years......
I was happily married,(24 years,19 active duty) had a great life .My husband and I were best friends. My husband is a Warrant Officer in Army,a pilot.
We had a wonderful family. We were planning our retirement and looking forward to spending those years together.
Then came Desert Storm.My husband and I said goodbye, 4 times. His flight to Iraq was delayed 3 times,he would call ,and I would return for a few more precious moments together,parting was very painful for us. We were so close &we were Close to God. My husband returned from Iraq a changed man. I do not know if it was the drugs, his helicopter crash over there, or something else , but I lost my husband to that war.
After he returned he became violent. This was not like him.
I kept thinking that he would recover, that he was suffering from post traumatic stress.
But the beatings and violence became so bad that I finally had to contact his commander.(TO KEEP IT IN MILITARY)
That is when my nightmare began.The military did not want to help my family.
They made my husband choose between his family or his career.They assassinated my character, invaded every aspect of my environment. They threatened my friends and family,and were able to manipulate the entire legal system in Clarksville, and basically strip me of all of my civil rights.

I love my family, I wanted to save my family. I am not a terrorist or a criminal.
I was stalked and terrorized ,every aspect of my(Civilian ) environment invaded and manipulated by the military.
Everyone ,all of my friends and family, were contacted and threatened . What is this evil power behind all of this?
The magnitude of resources available to these people ,when I think about it I am horrified.And why use them on me?
I was only trying to save my family. When I could not do that, get a fair divorce,to survive.
I realize now , that what I had done was to expose the military control over the entire legal and judicial system in Clarksville.I had uncovered a Police State.

I was forced to flee Tennessee, because the EVIL shadow powers did not want these things (and their illegal participation in terrorizing an innocent citizen)
revealed in my divorce documents,that eventually, I was forced send to Tennessee Supreme court. They threatened my life, (actually did try to kill me once)broke in my home, terrorized my friends.Finally I was forced to flee ,leaving behind everything I own , to save my life .
In doing so, I lost all legal remedy from the court ordered support in Tennessee.

Because of my health and duration of our marriage , my husband was ordered to pay my rent, utilities, insurance and some monetary support. The judge also gave me our better car, which he stole and drove to Colorado.
Of course as I have stated before, my husband boldly proclaimed that there was not a court anywhere that could make him pay me anything. He was right.I did not know then , that the Police State was here.
Now I am not an activist, I am a Christian .
But people must wake up.
I am simply trying to survive.
I am also a realist .
Do I have a chance to claim my rights to my share of retirement pay?
I am ill, and approaching my 50th birthday.For that past 2 years I have battled with my failing kidneys(depleted uranium?) and trying to survive on minimum paying jobs, all the while I LIVE EACH DAY, WITH THE HORROR OF WHAT HAPPENEDTO ME AND MY FAMILY.
During Desert Storm, My children supported our troops and Ft Campbell , singing at rallies.We were known as "military family to emulate".
My husband crashed in Iraq,and the military did not follow protocol , they showed up at my door, (my children and I were briefed that they would only show up in person if my husband was killed) informing me that my husband had been in crash,THEY DID NOT KNOW IF HE WAS DEAD OR ALIVE, advising me to stay by phone, I was to receive phone call.
My son was in first grade at time, he stopped talking after that experience, for 6 months.
I did not allow my children to watch war on TV after that, instead I involved them in activities to support troops.
We were "The military family to emulate"
Now we are the military family they destroyed.
Do I have any chance to claim my share of retirement pay?Or trying to find out if I am divorced, or to get some kind of support or alimony?
If I try, will Big Brother just make me disappear?
I have been seeking God for answers concerning this nightmare. So , where does this leave me tonight?
All Alone, dealing with the horror of what happened to me and my family, Who can I tell, Where can I go for help?They are everywhere!
It was not enough to destroy my family, they want me dead.
They can pretty much eliminate anyone they choose.
They followed me when I fled Tennessee.
I am somehow marked, and these people have networking it
seems, and a lot of money to spend.
When I was in Tennessee, they pumped something through my air conditioning vents, it made a residue, black-green on the walls.
It made me very ill, that is when I fled my apartment , leaving behind 23
years of personal, irreplaceable belongings.
It made me very dizzy. I recall waking up, and opening the door, my dog ran out and would not come back in apartment.
I was living in a duplex at the time. The young man next door had just got out of prison, and wasn't very financially sound.
I heard him at night pumping something in my vents. All of the sudden he has a new car.
I know that I sound paranoid but that is the truth.
I sent all of my divorce documents to Tennessee Supreme court ,
exposing officials at Ft Campbell in illegal activity,
I also sent copies of everything to Senator Lugar.
The post commander wrote Senator Lugar and lied, stating that there never was any domestic Violence.I sent Senator Lugar proof , the mp reports and court hearing records.
That on top of revealing that the whole judicial system was just a puppetcourt in my case.Just for show.
ACS ON POST WANTED ME TO LIE ABOUT THE ABUSE!
My husband said no court anywhere could make him pay me a dime.
Even when I realized that the whole civilian police force and court system
was controlled by the military, I did not give up.
I sent copies of everything to Tennessee Supreme court to try and get my husband to pay the support that the "puppet court" had ordered, as well as the vehicle the judge had given me.
I also sent proof that police did not honor the restraining order.
Well, I realize now , I had exposed a Police State.
They really want me dead because I have proof of all of this.
A lot of people would have had their careers seriously jeopardized.So they have to get rid of me.

You know, I remember , in the beginning, at Ft Rucker, we went to a therapist on post.
I recall him stating that he could tell my husband and I loved each other,and that he felt we could make very good progress.
The next thing I know, my husband is told to choose between his wife or his career, and this Major suddenly went TDY.
I think they are covering up something that has to do with the Gulf War, as I stated previously, he came back different, violent.
Many military families have suffered , some women were abused and killed.
My kidneys are now failing. I never had kidney problems before.
FOLLOWING IS A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION OF MY EXPERIENCE.
PLEASE READ ALL OF MY STORY, .
God Bless,
Nancy H

My husband was an officer in the United States Army.I stood faithfully beside him for 19 years..
I will probably lose my life if I tell my story, but I realize that I haven't much of a life left anyway.I lost everything dear to me, my family.My civil rights. I am ill ,and without hope ,this is why I must tell my story.People must wake up!

Until now , I have been to terrified to speak out about the horror happened to me and my children. I know realize that simply breathing is not living.
I am a victim of domestic violence
sanctioned and aided by the United States Army. I fled Ft Campbell, Kentucky in 2002,leaving everything that I own ,to save my life. Only God saved me.The military not only covers up domestic violence, in my case they participated in it.They own all of Clarksville, Tennessee.The police force, every attorney in the town, and they even own the court system.
They were able to control every aspect of my life,manipulate every aspect of my environment, including terrorizing my friends and my family .
One of my friends had a note left in his car, warning him not to talk to me anymore. My friend told me that my husband was trying to kill me and that I needed to contact the Tennessee Bureau Investigation.
My apartment was burglarized many times, my life threatened,finally I was forced to flee Ft Campbell leaving behind everything that I owned to save my life.
You see I was trying to save my family, my marriage, and then if I could not do that , get a fair divorce,. I could not get one attorney in Clarksville, to help me.Not one.I went to every attorney in that town! My legal aide attorney was actually helping my husband .When my husband would not comply with court ordered support,I was forced to represent myself, Finally when I realized, to my horror, that the Judge and the court had been influenced, and was controlled by this shadow power , I was forced to send documents to the Tennessee Supreme Court .I realize now, that in doing so , I had exposed the evil control the military has over the entire judicial system in Clarksville.I had exposed a Police State.This is when my real nightmare began.My friends were threatened not to come around me, my apartment repeatedly vandalized .I sent copies of everything to Senator Lugar in Indiana, to ensure that I would not meet with an unfortuante accident on my way home,and I fled back to my home town Terre Haute , Indiana .
I sit here tonight , in poverty, my family , my children their lives will never be the same.The horror that we have been through, it is beyond comprehension. I can not go into detail here, but they were abused, they suffered terribly.
My husband was able to leave Ft Campbell, and I am assuming divorcing in another state, presumably,so I will not get any of his retirement pay. I do not even know if I am divorced or not. I had to stay in a homeless shelter upon my arrival here in Terre Haute, because my family were and are to frightened to be around me. These people followed me here, and threatened my family.Who or what is the force behind all of this?
All of the resources they have, and what is more puzzling, why expend them on me?
I am not a criminal, I loved my family! Was it just to cover up domestic violence,and to keep me from my share of retirement pay?
My husband did contact me at the homeless shelter,with a question
concerning our property in Alabama, so he knows where I am.
If he got a divorce in another state to keep me from getting my share of retirement pay, he did it illegally.
I am ill with kidney failure,(which is why he was ordered to pay support) and I do not have any income at this time. My husband did warn me that I WOULD END UP IN THE GUTTER.
My story really begins with my husbands return from Desert Storm . We were happily married 19 years at the time.We had 3 beautiful children , We were a Christian family, . We coached little league, etc.
I was proud of my husband and proudly stood beside him for 19 years in the military.He was my best friend.
He crashed his helicopter in Desert Storm, I was so thankful that God had saved his life, watched over him during the war,
My children sang at rallies during the war, and my family, with Ft .Campbell blessing, appeared as a family on the 700 club. The show aired the day that my husband returned from the war.
It was evident the moment that he stepped of the airplane , that he was not the same man that I had known for 19 years.He was quite violent, and the abuse progressed over time.
The military's involvement began while we were stationed at Ft Rucker, Alabama.
One day he beat me so badly that I could not move,he slammed me
against the wall and busted a disk in my back.I wanted to save my family,
I was praying that God would help my husband. I loved him. I contacted his commander after that incident(to keep it in military)He told me in no uncertain terms,"Never call me with that this type of thing again".
My husband was told to choose between his family or his career.Unfortunately he chose his career.
I was seeing a Christian therapist in Enterprise,Al by the name of DR. Covan(he was former commander hospital Ft Campbell) at the time. He warned me that I was going to end up like Nicole Simpson if I did not leave my husband.
The military began assassinating my character and (along with my
husband) & tried to have me committed to a mental institution ,
supposedly so that I would not get half of his retirement pay. Of course it did not work. Then we received orders for Ft Campbell, Kentucky. I was warned by Dr. Covan, not to go.Had I known the terror awaiting me there, I would not have gone,
But you see, I was still trying to save my family,and we had pleasant memories from the last time we were stationed there.
Upon our arrival , I realized that I had made a mistake. The abuse became worse, and my life became a living nightmare.Dr. Covan phoned me, and begged me to leave,go back to Alabama, he was going to send me a bus ticket , back to Alabama.
He repeated , "Your husband is going to kill you".
I should have listened to him , but I did not know what he knew, that some shadow evil force at Ft Campbell ,controls all of Clarksville, and that FT Campbell deals with domestic violence by getting rid of the victim.
I was so naive about the world. An easy victim.
This was not necessary, I love my family, I WANTED TO SAVE MY MARRIAGE!
But it was easier for the military to cover up the abuse, and get rid of the problem , as they saw it, me. I actually went to every attorney in Clarksville, not one would help me.!
They wanted to at first , but on second meeting they would change their mind.
I was somehow marked, you see. My husband boasted that he did not have to pay me a dime of any of the support ordered by the court, and you know, he didn't. I had a restraining order, which he continually violated. One night I woke up and found him standing over me, staring at me as I was sleeping.
The Clarksville police would not enforce the restraining order, stating that because we were still married , it was not enforceable..What frightened me the most, was my husbands bold arrogant , confidence that the law did not apply to him,that he was above the law. .When I tried to contact my legal aid attorney, she ignored me and told me to get food stamps.
Finally I sent the judge a request for contempt of court hearing. My legal aide attorney heard about this, and resigned as my attorney,stating she had sent copies of her resignation to my husband,in Louisiana,, proving that she had tipped him off about the contempt hearing,I had requested, This is how I learned he had moved.
He is now in Colorado, and still active on the DODS WEBSITE.I realize that I am putting my life in danger, telling my story,
but I haven't much of a life anyway.
I am 50 years old. I am ill, My children,my friends, my family,THEY ARE all afraid to talk to me, I do not have a life.
Breathing is not living.
What is this all about? What did these people tell my friends and
family?.
I do not know, but to many women are murdered in military towns,
and it is only the Grace of God that I survived. Are they murdering us to cover up domestic violence, because murder is easier than helping the families?Are they angry about the retirement pay issues?We certainly wont get it if we are dead. Or is it something else entirely? Dr. Covan knows. I wish that I would have listened to him. All that I have ever wanted was to save my family, and if I could not do that get a fair divorce.I pray that someone out there can help me bring closure to this nightmare. I spent my life supporting my husband , his career, raising my children, and volunteering my services to the United States Army. I am ill and without any financial support. I was married 24 years, 19 of those years I stood beside my husband supporting his career, and the Army. I do not know if I am married or not.I was threatened by my husband , not to speak about what happened , or to legally persue retirement pay, or support.He said that I would end up in a ditch.

I pray that someone will listen, and help me bring closure to this nightmare so that my children and I may have a chance to live again.


PS
At first I did not want to admit that this was going on.
It is so horrific.We were just a normal happy family before the war.
They did not want us to seek help, I do not know what they are covering up..
I believe that my husband is a victim too.
He was told to choose , his family or his career, I believe that he then became a victim of "handlers". I watched him turn into a monster.
A person not capable of human emotions. Full of hate.Totally opposite of the man I married.
The loving father and husband I had known foe 20 years.
Before the military got involved, he would have sporadic episodes of violence, losing his temper.
But in between those episodes, he was normal, my loving husband, and loving father.
I recall the morning in Alabama, when the police knocked on my door.(day after he was told to choose)
They informed me that they wanted me to come with them , that I had no choice.
I had no idea what was going on.
They escorted me to a commitment hearing! My husband was not there.
But, his commander was!
Upon my arrival, an attorney that greeted me, he told me to stay calm, he then informed me that my husband was trying to have me committed to a mental institution! This attorney was outraged.
This commander, the same one that told me never to contact him again, lied on that stand, he told the judge that I was unstable.He also said that I was a drug addict, basically trashed my reputation.
But upon my attorneys cross , this commander could not testify to any one thing to prove his allegations.
The judge dismissed the case.
We then left Ft. Rucker, and moved to Campbell.
You know the story, things got much worse for me and my children.
At the time my husband and I separated, we had one child left at home, Robert Jr.
He was a senior in high school. My illegal, legal aid attorney persuaded me not to
ask for custody, that my son wanted to stay with his father, and that it was best.
I did not know her true intentions regarding me , at that point.
I regretted that decision, very much. I did not want him to stay with his father,
but Robert had taken my name off of all the checking accts, and he was not paying court ordered support.
I felt that since Robert had all of the money, this was the best decision.
But my husband abused him terribly.
It was so painful for me.
Legal aid would not help me with the support issues, or help me get custody of my son.
I felt so helpless.
My heart was breaking for my family.
The last words my son said to me , were, "Mom , all that stuff you taught me about God, it was a lie."
I have not spoken to him since.
He and my oldest daughter know what happened.They have to live the rest of their lives with this horror.
They have been warned not to contact me.
It was difficult for me to deal with, I can not imagine what they are feeling.
Their loving Daddy, turning into hitlaristic monster, trying to kill their mother.
And with the full support of the military behind him.

I have 2 grandchildren I have never seen.
I spend every Christmas and Thanksgiving alone.
My children and I will never have any kind of life worth living until there is closure in this matter.
It has never been about vindication, I only wish to restore my family.
The truth must come out.

These monsters told my family here, that I am crazy, that is I suppose ,what they tell every friend and employer that will come into my life.
You know they followed me here when I fled Tennessee,.
On my drive here, I was followed by a group of cars, honking and screaming at me.(with confederate flags)
I thought it was just road rage.
When I arrived, I realized that my family had been threatened somehow, my sisters treated me like I was a
criminal.
I went to my mothers house when I arrived here, that night I noticed two men across the street ,at a vacant house ,watching my mothers house.
I thought I was just being paranoid.
But the next day my sisters came to my mothers house and made me leave, screaming,"You are not going to kill my mother!"
They insisted that I leave, I had nowhere to go.
I had just fled Ft Campbell to save my life, only to find that these people had followed me here!

This was strange thing for my sisters to say.
I was always very close to my sisters.
It was a very strange remark , I do not have hate or violence in me John, especially for my Mother!
I figured my husband had called and slandered me .
My sister had my mother placed in a nursing home, now I realize, with horror, that it was because of
me!
My Mother was fine the night that I was there. She did her own housework, cooking, she was content ,
she had two pet cats that she adored.
My mother aged 10 years over night in that nursing home.
It is as though, she gave up on life.
I have to live with this fact every day, for the rest of my life .
Because of me my mother lost her life.
What did these people say to my family?
When my sisters made me leave my Mothers, I had nowhere to go, so I went to the church I attended when I was young.
The pastor was nice at first, but when I went back the next day, He wanted a list of everyone that I knew here!
They had followed me there!
He then gave me a paid hotel room 2 nights,when I arrived at the hotel, and I noticed 2 men outside, watching the room.
I did not go in, I slept in my car.
I ended up in homeless shelter.
I do not know much about electronic crimes, all I know is that since this all began, my health has deteriorated, my kidneys are failing.
I am 50 years old . I am broke, I am refused help from all relief agencies.
I am blackballed, marked.
I can not even stay in domestic violence shelters.
I can not keep a job, not even minimum paying jobs. After I do find one, I can not keep it.
Everything goes well, then I notice people ignoring me,whispering. I end up getting fired.
The last job from which I was fired, I applied for unemployment. The claim became final in my favor.
I was about to draw my last few checks when I received in the mail,a notice that my employer was contesting my claim!
Now it had already become final in my favor!
Killing me slowly.
I do not have anyone.
My sisters will not allow me in thier house.
I found a part time job, then lost it, because my old car broke down.
I have one friend that let me stay here, in a spare bedroom, otherwise
I would be homeless right now.
I can not stay here long .
It does not really matter, I have no place else to go.
I feel so alone.
I haven't any money, the stress is contributing to a marked deterioration of my health .
My kidneys are not functioning, the physicians are talking about dialysis.
I had a heart attack last year.
I can not live anymore with this nightmare.
The pain is to much to bear.
I have to go out tomorrow and try to find another minimum wage job to work, for a few weeks, until I am fired again.,
or I wind up in a hospital with another heart attack or on dialysis.
Things are not looking good,
I do not have hate in my heart for anyone, just pain,hurt.
I miss my family so much!
The pain my children are experiencing,! and I can not comfort them!
This is not living, I really do not think I can go on. How did this happen to me? to my family?
Why?Who decided it was ok to murder my family?
I am not a terrorist, I was not an anti- war protester, I am not a criminal.
I do not care so much for me, it is my children and grandchildren , when I think about them my heart aches.
Not one day goes by that I don't think of them , desire to hold them in my arms, to comfort them.
They are out there, alone trying to deal with this.
I have not told you all of the horror my children and I suffered at the hands of these monsters.
My daughter, Danielle, how she suffered!How she continues to suffer.
My husband has completely abandoned his children, as he told them that they are a part of his life that no longer exists.
To this day, I can not think of my husband saying things like that!
It is not him!
If anyone out there, can assist me in any way, I will be forever grateful.
Time is running out for me, and my children....
God Bless,
Nancy H.

More:
http://tinyurl.com/cexre

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pocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:53 PM
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1. hay, beating your wife is good training
for beating those eye-racky prisoners
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Dharma_Bum Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:39 PM
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2. Interesting ...
...but far from true I believe.

It's much like those LONG emails you find in your junk mailbox...

You know ...

"Dear American,

My name is Kibatawa Shorowoo, and I am the heir to the king of Spatlani Africa.
I am due to inherit several million american dollars and am wishing to transfer them to an American bank account before a fearful coup takes over our lovely country."


But who knows...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 10:00 PM
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3. The person writing it is obviously mentally ill, but...
that doesn't mean some aspects of her story might not be true.

Or that she doesn't need/deserve help.

Unless the whole thing is a hoax, which is also possible.

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RiDuvessa Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 07:58 AM
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4. Honestly, this sounds fishy to me.
I am an officer in the US Navy, and I have dealt with this type of situation a few times.

The military has an INSTRUCTION that tells you exactly how to deal with accusations of abuse. It's a Department of Defense instruction, so it would be the same in the Army as the Navy. If a Commanding Officer doesn't deal with the situation in exactly the manner prescribed, then they are in very deep poo.

The very first thing that a CO must do is separate the family at the first accusation of abuse. The military member is given a military protective order that prevents them from seeing the spouse at all unless in the presence of senior leadership. They are then referred to an independent agency. In the Navy, it's the Fleet and Family Service Center, and their recommendations carry significant power. They military almost immediately mobilizes to prevent further abuse.

I mean really, why would the military do this to one women? You are talking about a lot of work and effort to persecute one person. and If this is widespread, why haven't more women come forward.

Furthermore, there is a federal law that governs what a military spouse is entitled to in a divorce. They are entitled to a lot, including half of the military member's retirement pay, as long as they don't remarry.

This sounds extremely fishy.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 05:06 PM
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5. Agreed. What kind of mental health services are there for spouses of vets?
Abused or not, the woman is obviously mentally ill. Possibly delusional.

Is there a system in place for her to get help, even if her husband divorces her?
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RiDuvessa Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 09:52 AM
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6. I'm not sure.
I am not really up to date on the services available to divorced spouses. If she was married, then she would have access to the mental health facilities available through the military. I also know that the children of divorced military members still have dependant priviledges. I do not know how extensive the retained priviledges are for divorced spouses.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-07-06 07:09 PM
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7. Divorced spouses
I don't think there are any. Easy to confirm by a call to the local VA.
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DocSavage Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 03:59 PM
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8. If she is divorced
in the decree, she may still be a dependent and have an ID card. If she does, than she can use TRI-Care for access to any type of mental health care she needs. And as for the post about hitting being good training. Personally, when I was in I preferred my enemy to be at about the 300 meter range. Target shooting is far better practice.
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