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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 03:42 PM
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Interesting diary at Kos -- check it out
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:28 PM
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1. Maybe I'm dense
but what does that article have to do w/Gore? (Yes, I have been having "senior moments" since I was thirty two.)
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:36 PM
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2. This part
The Bloomberg Engagement is setting up. One unknown is if Edwards pulls it out in Iowa and NH.

Bloomberg apparently wanted Gore to run and waited for his decision. Bloomberg and Gore are speaking. Gore apparently would support Bloomberg over anyone but Edwards.

Or at least, give no active support for Clinton or Obama, and just support "all candidates who commit to sustainable future."

The Gore support, or lack of opposition, is a factor. That hinges on Edwards. (I personally have found Edwards sort of absent on the Environmental front, which is the cause of my lukewarm support for him.)

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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 07:51 PM
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3. What I still can't wrap my brain around is
"Gore apparently would support Bloomberg over anyone but Edwards."

The above statement was made by an individual and is his/her opinion, w/no facts to back up that assumption, right?

Or

Have I missed a statement made by Al Gore?

Don't get me wrong. Anything anti-johnnyboy warms my heart. I would just like facts, not someone's speculation.

Another Or

Everything is speculation.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:03 PM
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4. The person who wrote the diary apparently had lunch with
a friend in DC who knows Bloomberg personally and had some inside information. Of course, we've all been down that "insider information" road plenty of times in the past year, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

I didn't read this as being anti-Johnnyboy. On the contrary. I see it as pro-Johnnyboy. The conclusion I came to from it is that Gore likes Edwards and would only support Bloomberg if it were going to be someone other than Edwards.

I didn't post this as the gospel, just that it was interesting if it's true. At this point, the whole Bloomberg thing is speculation as far as I'm concerned. Some people see Bloomberg as pulling more from the Repubs, but I'm not so sure about that. If Hillary is the nominee, especially, I see him pulling a lot of Democratic votes. It certainly would make things interesting, but I don't think it will help us any. I know that my husband, for one, would vote for him over Hillary any day.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:10 PM
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5. I just came back to edit my previous post
to say - Nevermind. lol

I read the entire thread and realized it was a "what if" post.

I am starving from lack of information about Gore. Can you tell?
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:23 PM
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6. No problem.
The diarist is also a Gore supporter, but has moved on to Edwards.

I change my mind daily -- of course the two I'd probably like the best are Dodd and Biden, neither of whom has a prayer at getting the nomination. It's too bad, because I think either of them could easily get elected in November. In fact, I think they'd make a great ticket together. Whatever happens, I hope they both wind up with posts in the cabinet.

Of the current frontrunners, I like Edwards the best. Then Obama, then Hillary. I personally think the second tier should be the top tier and that the media hasn't done anyone any favors.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 08:38 PM
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7. Edwards is good on energy/environment - needs to be better, but he is good already.
The League of Conservation Voters, which has not yet endorsed a candidate for president, described Edwards' plan as the "most comprehensive global warming plan of any presidential candidate to date." "Senator Edwards' plan demonstrates that he understands the magnitude of the challenge before us and the need for bold leadership to meet it," LCV President Gene Karpinski said.

"Our generation must be the one that says, 'we must halt global warming,'" said Edwards. "If we don't act now, it will be too late. Our generation must be the one that says 'yes' to alternative, renewable fuels and ends forever our dependence on foreign oil. Our generation must be the one that accepts responsibility for conserving natural resources and demands the tools to do it. And our generation must be the one that builds the New Energy Economy. It won't be easy, but it is time to ask the American people to be patriotic about something other than war."

Edwards believes that with American ingenuity and resolve we can turn the crisis of global warming into an opportunity—ending our dependence on foreign oil and creating a new energy economy that embraces innovation, brings rural communities back to life and creates new, good-paying jobs.

The Edwards Plan halts global warming, achieves energy independence and jumpstarts a new energy economy by:

* Capping greenhouse gas pollution starting in 2010 with a cap-and-trade system, and reducing it by 15 percent by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050, as the latest science says is needed to avoid the worst impacts of global warming.

* Leading the world to a new climate treaty that commits other countries—including developing nations—to reduce their pollution. Edwards will insist that developing countries join us in this effort, offering to share new clean energy technology and, if necessary, using trade agreements to require binding greenhouse reductions.

* Creating a New Energy Economy Fund by auctioning off $10 billion in greenhouse pollution permits and repealing subsidies for big oil companies. The fund will support U.S. research and development in energy technology, help entrepreneurs start new businesses, invest in new carbon-capture and efficient automobile technology and help Americans conserve energy.

* Meeting the demand for more electricity through efficiency for the next decade, instead of producing more electricity.

http://www.johnedwards.com/issues/energy/


For Anti-Nuke Crowd, One Choice

John Edwards is Only Front-Runner Against Nuclear Power

For voters who believe splitting atoms in nuclear power plants is an energy source with great potential, given growing evidence that global warming poses a greater danger than radioactive waste, there's a lot to like in the slate of candidates vying to be the next U.S. president.

All Republicans support nuclear power (though they differ on how and whether to subsidize the industry with government money), and Democrats all say it should, or could, be part of the energy mix (though they say so with frequent caveats, and would emphasize research and development of renewable energy sources first).

But the lone hard-line opponent of nuclear power is John Edwards, according to a Los Angeles Times analysis.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x127445


What we really need is 10,000's of these -> North America’s Largest Solar-Electric Plant Switched On
and millions and millions of these -> http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic24763.html">High mileage cars that Americans can't buy

But nobody is talking that scale yet... :cry: :grr:


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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-30-07 09:17 PM
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8. Please
The name of this forum is Al Gore '08 Group. If you want to hawk another candidate, please do it in that candidate's forum.

Thank you
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:48 AM
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9. I responded to a specific statement from another poster - and I won't apologize
for that. I've been posting the Gore forum for a long, long time -- I posted dozens of times in GD to get people to sign the DraftGore petition, I donated to DraftGore and elsewhere. If Gore jumped in the race, even now, I'd race to his side. If someone posts a comment about Edwards or Richardson or anyone else I happen to know about then I think it is fair that I respond to them.

An attempt to hawk another candidate would look significantly different from my response about Edwards in this thread.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 10:53 AM
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10. Just for clarification, the statement in my post was not mine
It came from the Kos diary. That being said, though, I saw the context of your post about Edwards and personally had no problem with it. I read it as being in response to what I quoted from the Kos diary.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:02 AM
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11. Thanks, Sharon. I can't blame Pastiche if s/he does feel overloaded
with posts about Edwards. The Greatest Page is FILLED with them.

I, too, come here to the Gore forum to read about Al, not about other people.

Still, I was responding to what you said and not hawking another candidate.

:hi:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-31-07 11:32 AM
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12. That's how I took it.
Have a very Happy New Year -- although it would be a lot happier if Gore were in the race right now!

:hi:
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marlakay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-01-08 02:13 AM
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13. I wish Gore was in the race too
but last few days I have decided to vote for another to stop Hillary...I still don't understand Gore's choices but its his life.
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