Pity parties in Religion & Theology

Good grief, some Christians just can't wait to weigh in on the horrible abuse they suffer (on an OPEN MESSAGE BOARD) at the hands of us wicked atheistic liberals who refuse to believe in their religion. Such power we wield!

Wah, wah, wah. Feeling "disrespected" on DU? Try being legally discriminated against IN REAL LIFE simply because you don't believe.

My son can't join the boy scouts.

Every piece of currency I spend promotes religiosity.

The national pledge requires allegiance to a god.

Preferring NOT to see religious rules posted in what is supposed to be PUBLIC property gets me branded as a horrible wicked person.

And that's not even going into what various politicians (George Herbie Bush, as one example) have said about non-believers.

Why are these Christians so much more worried about what occasionally gets said (usually out of frustration) on an insignificant message board instead of real life, where their dominant beliefs are stepping on everyone else's?

WHO'S THE VICTIM HERE, PEOPLE?!?

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...for backing all those Atheistic Commie Genociders...as that Good Xian G.W. Bu$h might say.

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I haven't even been over there in a few days. It just gets tedious seeing the exact same comments/rhetorical questions from The Usual Suspects.

Most atheists probably keep this link handy. It's pretty good for annoying Xians.

But just in case y'all need it again...

http://www.infidels.org/misc/humor/lioaca.html

More powerful today than it's ever been. Thanks for that link.

Thanks!

I'm so very tempted to post that, maybe not to day, but some time.

And say something like, "now some of these things you might find to be just bizarre, and can't even imagine such a thing being true, then realize that it is true for Atheists. We live with all of these things everyday."

We look to science and reason for our support. And for bulk of fundamentalist believers these represent threats to their way of thinking. And yet they cannot beat them back. They continue to press in on them. Science and reason continue to knock the pillars and foundations of their belief out from under them.

Furthermore our society is heavily arrayed against them as well. Or at least how they believe the society should be. They began losing the battle against society over 500 years ago and with the founding of this country a fatal blow was dealt to dogmatic authoratative systems. They are not able to impose there beliefs anywhere near as much as they want to. They are forced to abide with the open existance of evil individuals and teachings all in the name of "Tolerance".

Church attendance is in decline. Mainstream churches are having to close down facilities. Worldwide atheism and secularlism is on the rise. Here in the US the fundies are on the defensive against a changing world. And they have turned vicious as a result. They are making advances to be sure. But it could simply turn out to be the last gasp of a dying species.

The only real threat they pose is if they can manage to pull off a second sacking of a metaphorical Library of Alexander and instigate a second dark age. But with the way things are now such a feat would only reach as far as the US borders. We would become an isolated pariah in the community of the world as the rest continue to progress.

the pledge, etc, I used to ask why their religion needed support from the government? Was their faith too weak to exist without gov't assistance? Or perhaps their god wasn't powerful enough to sustain itself?

Moderate Christians, of course, see this as ridiculous. But perhaps the fundies have it right. Maybe their fear is appropriate, and they are desperately clinging to any thing that will keep their faith strong.

Maybe this last burst of fanaticism will turn many away from mythology and toward rationality!

Maybe this is the beginning of the end of regressive and oppressive religions.

Wouldn't it be great to enter into an new enlightenment - a new age of reason.

Ah, such sweet thoughts.

many of them don't like the Religion and Theology forum because atheists post there. they just want to be validated I guess and not hear anything to the contrary. They seem to feel persecuted throughout DU. I always find that amusing when members of the majority religion scream persecution when they are running the show.

What I hate seeing is how they like to blame recent Democratic election failures on nonbelievers - that we're scaring religious people away from the party. Never mind that it's their own religion that has been easily co-opted by the right wing and repackaged into a VERY attractive, VERY sell-able product that a whole lot of people find appealing. Nope, it's us nasty atheistic liberals. On an obscure message board. :eyes:

During the entire DNC, I saw lots of religious-themed content. "God Bless America" is appended to every damn speech. So while they whine about atheists pushing people out of the party, I have to wonder exactly WHAT Democratic party they're looking at.

for the fundies. I think that most atheists have just let bygones be bygones in the past. We don't wear it on our sleeves so to speak as they do!

The outrage is from the "regular" christians that aren't fundies because they realize just how ridiculous the fundies have become in representing religion. Fundies don't care how they come across to everyday people because they have an agenda and they can't see past their agenda.

However, "regulars" are willing to join forces with the fundies and beat up on the atheist and blame them for everything because if they admit that atheists have a valid point then it rocks their core beliefs. I think that they are afraid of coming to an atheists defense for fear of ridicule.

Most "regular" christians are unnerved by their fundie wing of the religious party but they would rather attack a smaller group of atheists because we are an easier target. Atheists don't normally gather on Sunday looking for a church to protest. :eyes:

I have become very intolerant of people that claim on the one hand they are persecuted and then they say they are the moral majority because the U.S. is a religious nation. Which is it? :shrug:

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Why does the friggin spell check always want me to capitilize christians? hmmmmm.............Persecuted my ass.

I just now gathered up the gumption to go take a look in there... what a cluster-fuck.. apparently, a bunch of us are doucebags, and I especially liked the post where the christian was talking about how we aren't interested in any "facts"... as if facts have anything to do with their religion... un-friggin'-believable.

Maybe that's why he went nutty fundie...

You and that satanic Hello Cthulhu. :hi:

I never pictured you as a parent. Whoa, time to paradigm-shift.

Look out world, I've bred.

Watch out, world, a free-thinker has spawned!

to any religion is pleasure. It's like garlic to a vampire. The more pleasure, the less their stuff sells. So suffering needs to be promoted, generalized, systematized if possible, and pleasure demonized. As for Xians, their particular belief dictates that they have to follow the example of the sufferrer in chief. They will claim they hurt even if they don't or if they don't give a crap just because the logic of their belief requires it.

And went and checked out the threads there and didn't see any pity party going on. I think SOMEONE had a case of the Mondays, Trotsky.

Thanks for your opinion.

They're so mad that they can't have their theocracy and make everyone pray their way. To pile on that, the christians can't even agree on who's a christian! :wtf:

I'm glad for this forum! :thumbsup:

Randomness scares people. Religion is a way to explain randomness.
(Fran Lebowitz)

The thought that there may not be a god is just so foreign to some of them that they're scared by it.

Some of them just can't imagine that they may have spent countless hours of instruction, prayer, and worship for nothing. Not to mention, the dollars which they've pumped into paying pastors salaries, and maintaining churches, (that sunday pass-around basket thing).

Therefore some of them rationalize it by trying to force it onto everyone, because if everyone's doing it, it must be the correct thing.....

Personally, i'll believe in god, if and when she shows herself to me... :)

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You should post more. :)

anything that gives me an excuse to work my post count up, i'm all for it... :)