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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:35 PM
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Jonathan Alter: Another Mean Girl?
Edited on Mon Nov-20-06 08:36 PM by whometense
On Olbermann tonight. Wait till you see the transcript. Was anyine watching?? Keith didn't slap Alter down, but I do give him credit for actually mentioning the point we keep bringiong up, to the effect of: "Why, after three weeks, is the right wing noise machine still talking about that joke? Is Kerry that much of a threat?"

Of course, Alter had to repeat the Beltway talking points:

1.) The condescending, "I respect John Kerry, but he ought to give up and endorse someone else already."

2.) The tone-deaf: "I don't hear any appetite for another Kerry run." To be fair, I'm sure, considering who he hangs out with, that that's true.

There was more, but that's all I remember right now.

Keith did a great hit job on McCain: what will he call his next campaign bus? (I'd like to suggest The Suckup Express).

Who else was watching??
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:44 PM
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1. No real comment on your main point as I didn't see Olbermann but....
...I absolutely think we should start calling the conventional wisdom Beltway punditariat "Mean Girls" (regardless of gender). Your thread title had me giggling out loud in front of the computer. I LOVE it and it accurately describes their kool kid high school cafeteria antics better than just about anything.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-20-06 08:53 PM
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2. Well, he does work for Newsweek, so....
yeah, he's a Mean Girl.

The thing is, it's really fine for him to say we can do better than JK, because, in theory, that is true of anybody. But "Kerry shouldn't run because *I* don't want him to" is getting to be an old argument.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 08:54 AM
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3. I did see it
and di not like it! I do not remember any better than you do what exactly ALter said, but it was quite nasty in a snarky kind of way. Definitely "mean girl", can you imagine him with a poney tail?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-21-06 02:18 PM
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4. Countdown transcript:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15830509/

OLBERMANN: (on McCain) Well, that would be different. But not different from his other shifts towards the far right, like suggesting that more troops in Iraq may be the answer there, and, just before the past election, siding with the deliberate misinterpretation of Senator John Kerry‘s joke about President Bush.

Let‘s call in “Newsweek”‘s senior editor, MSNBC political analyst Jonathan Alter.

Thanks again for your time tonight, Jon...

...OLBERMANN: Sticking in Massachusetts, Senator John Kerry did some positioning of his own yesterday. He said the botched joke about President Bush won‘t hurt him, quote, “in the least” relative to 2008. He was on with Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday,” and everything but the last question was about that joke that is now three weeks old.

What does that tell us, one, that—is Kerry seen as some sort of easy target by the right, or some sort of threat by the right, that they would still be attacking him? And does he seriously think of himself as a presidential candidate for 2008?

ALTER: Well, he‘s clearly not seen as a threat by the right. Punching bag would be more like it. You know, they did a good job of Swiftboating him last time out, and it‘s easy, it‘s an easy hit for them.

The bigger question is with the Democrats. I mean, I just don‘t see, and I respect Senator Kerry, but I just don‘t see an appetite out there for him within the Democratic Party this time. You don‘t get a second chance, especially when a lot of people think you blew it the first time.

So, you know, he‘s done a lot for his party, but he could probably do more if he stood down, faced reality, and figured out who within the party he thinks is best capable of carrying forward the mantle the next time.
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