Two words I have noticed on DU to describe Kerry,

"damaged goods"

Now where do you think this has come from. Damaged goods, it makes him sound like a package that arrived unusable.

It implies what, the Joke did him in? It is meant to do what? Keep people focused on the unfair incident?

Frankly, I question the motives of anyone on DU who uses this to describe Senator Kerry.

I need a good counter, to this. I suspect this came from someone Else's camp and they are trying to make it stick. I consider it Right up their with the other flame bait.

Now, I wonder how some of those using this term would feel about their candidate being describe in such a way?

As soon as Kerry gets good press, they have to interject negatives and doom and gloom about Kerry.

I ask you, do we stomp on their candidates good press with derogatory comments. I have to wonder how the Gore and Clark supporters would feel about us calling them washed up or damaged goods, when the term could be used to describe their candidates also.

people have short memories when it comes to things like this. All that needs to happen (and it is already happening) is for JK to get some good press. People only remember the last thing they hear. How else could Monkey boy get away with all the crap he's gotten away with. Some of these long-suffering lefties have long memories to match, and have the ability and desire to hold grudges against politicians for a long time--but that's not at all true of the average American voter. They are busy with other things, and don't even think of politics unless it's time to go and vote, and then half of them don't even bother to vote unless they see a particular reason to get rid of somebody who's in office.

So what's interesting is that it's a phrase from the right that morphs itself into an attack on Dems in general. I've seen Gore referred to as damaged goods too. It's particularly sexist and I find it very offensive as women who have been raped have been referred to as 'damaged goods' in the past. Will this take hold and then be turned against Hillary at some point? Are they floating that phrase out there so it loses its power if it's turned against her? I don't know, but it sure is a disgusting phrase and I honestly can't imagine what kind of Democrat would use it.

When the electoral votes were being certified, most Democrats spoke out against the election problems, although they didn't vote against certification. During the Alito filibuster attempt, Kerry took the initiative and garnered more support than the Senate leader. His position on Iraq has defined the debate. Kerry-Feingold was one of only two plans considered by the Senate. Although it was voted down, 13 Senators including seven in senior roles in the new Congress voted for Kerry's plan! Kerry's support and fund raising prior to the incident was way up!

The current attempt to drag this incident out, to the point of silliness, is a combination RW media spin, political maneuvering and freeper BS!


Also, see this from The Premise.

means that no candidate is acceptable unless they're a completely blank slate. No experience, no votes, no exposure, no statements, no ideas, no achievements, no life. Just a smile and no record. The perfect candidate would be
a cheshire cat. It's just completely absurd. Shows we've totally lost touch with what's important, about the presidency, and about our country . Just infuriating. At times like this, the Democratic Party drives me NUTS.

Hence the infatuation with Obama (no messy voting record to disrupt the fantasy).

I feel the same way you do - disgusted. They howl and howl about the right wing media, and then buy into everything it fabricates.

As an example, Obama was nothing until the press turned him into something.
They don't see themselves for what they are, gullible and very easily manipulated to do the media's dirty work. I also think some people need to attach themselves to the most popular person at the moment. This reminds me of elementary and high school. Where people felt a need to be part of the popular crowd, allowing the popular crowd to do their thinking for them and just following along.

"They howl and howl about the right wing media, and then buy into everything it fabricates."

Just drives me - craaay-zeee!!!

that itself keeps the attention on the negative stuff. you get caught in debating about that rather than other things.

just say that's the past or that what matters are the real issues. the people who say this aren't going to support Kerry anyways. it's a waste of time from doing real work when debating that type.

just discuss the positive things Kerry is doing and has done. after a while the people who respond in those threads with negative comments start to look bad.