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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 10:13 PM
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McAuliffe has a book coming out in a few weeks about the Dem party. Expect more
Kerry bashing from him while he rvises history to make Kerry into the worst campaigner in history while he pretends he ran a great national strategy for the Dems from 2001- 2005.

Stay mindful that he oversaw the collapse of part infrastructures in many of the red and swing states during his tenure, as part of the Clinton-era targetted state strategy.

All Terry Mac cared about was his DC centric agenda of centralizing power with the elite in DC, because it was obvius he gave up on 2002 and 2004 on Sept 11, 2001.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 10:16 PM
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1. I know all about the guy. He is back to support Hillary in hopes they
can all again totally ruin, opps I meant run our party. I am sure anything negative he says about Kerry will be eaten up by the cable stations.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 10:20 PM
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2. I'm expecting there will be two targets - Dean and Kerry. Kerrt attacks will be overt
but the ones against Dean will be more subtle from Terry, while guys like Begala and Carville will be more overt against Dean.

I've watched them work long enough to realize this is how they operate.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-04-07 11:10 PM
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3. Oh brother.
During the campaign he was on Laura Ingrahms talk show like they were best buddies. Sort of mocking style sticking up for the Democrats but laughing with her about whole thing.

He will probably talk about how hopeless Kerry is as a candidate and how he (McAuliffe) tried to get him to "fight".

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 12:18 AM
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4. You know what would be good then
would be after a minute or two of his dissing Kerry, Kerry purposely walked onto the set and asked if he wanted to say that to his face.

McAulife was head of the DNC when they lost 2000, 2002 and 2004. This doesn't give him mush room to talk. Kerry likely had the harder of the 2 Presidential races.

What's strange is that Kerry was very nice to him at the event where he stepped down. I guess Clinton attracts people who are like himself.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:51 PM
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36. Kerry should face this head on. DNC collapsing party infrastructure couldn't
have been anyone's fault BUT McAuliffe and Clinton for spearheading the targetted state strategy since the mid90s.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:58 AM
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5. Here it is.
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 08:04 AM by Mass
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:36 AM
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6. Just read the first paragraph. WORSE THAN I THOUGHT!!
Okay, who are the DNC experts? We need to get a counterattack ready NOW. Detail how McAuliffe is the real failure -- help tie it in with Gore's loss, too. We need to go totally negative on this guy and how he screwed Dems, not just Kerry, but Gore, too. Blogs must be RELENTLESS against this.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:37 AM
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7. Interesting -- he doesn't blast Obama or any of the other candidates
So it's true -- Hillary fears Kerry the most.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:42 AM
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8. Would you consider a title change for DU Main?
Like:

McAuliffe blames everyone but himself for Losses under his watch


Or something provocative like that. It might catch more flies that way.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:48 AM
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9. I want to share my opinion with Terry:
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 09:26 AM by ProSense
Dear Terry:

You suck, Dean rocks!

When Kerry was calling for regime change in April 2003, where were the Clintons, where were you?

Terry exhibit A

Then watch the debates. In fact, Kerry was one of the few Democrats speaking out against Bush, none of you pundit types did anything. You, Begala and Carville, weren't deer in the headlights, you all were roadkill.

You disgust me,

ProSense

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:55 AM
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11. Well, gee, Prosense, don't hold back or anything
Sigh -- you know WHO is going to be back trumpeting this stuff on DU main. EEk, EEk. Thing is there is a tag team in the media who have been whoring for Clinton:

Donna Brazille -- talked about the money left over from the campaign (which is normal, but she made it seem like it was something new)

Begala -- famously said that Kerry "not fighting back" led people to think "well, if you can't defend yourself, how can you defend the country". Before this remark, I recall NOBODY talking about not fighting back.

Carville -- we won which means Dean's got to go!

Begala again -- that asshole from Vermont

McAuliffe -- accusing Kerry's campaign of malpractice



Gee -- what do all these yahoos have in common? Is Brazille planning on supporting Hillary?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:30 AM
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17. I edited a couple of typos.
McAwful will blame Kerry for losing in 2000, 2002 and 2004. Yet Dean comes in and wins in 2005. Is he going to take credit for the campaigning and fund-raising Kerry did for Democrats this year?
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:38 AM
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18. I added a response to your post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3042206&mesg_id=3042291

I really do think it's quickly shaping up to be a battle of Clintonistas/DLC vs Kerry et al. I think it explains the snarky comments from people like McAuliffe, Hillary, Begala, Carville, Brazile, etc. Depressing to think that most of these folks are regular TV commentators on Talking Head shows. . they really have had way too much influence on the Dem. "conventional wisdom" for way too long. They sure don't speak for me!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:55 AM
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10. Before we jumb all over this a**hole, ask yourself this, how many people
will really know who TM is and how well do you really think this book will do? We may end up giving it more PR than it deserves and draw more attention to it.
I do think however, that the comments in the book should be countered by a Kerry spokesperson.
That is just my humble opinion.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:57 AM
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13. I think it will be all over the blogs by people who either support Clinton
or are anti-Kerry. I fear a full scale attack coming. Agreed, that if the book turns out to be a dud, then we shouldn't do anything, but . . . this guy is probably going to go on all the talk shows trying to sell his book and talking up Clinton. I feel it in my bones.

Thoughts from others?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:16 AM
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16. Oh, I agree. Clinton people with an agenda and anti Kerry people
with an agenda. McAulife has given them some red meat. Sure he will make the rounds. It can be easily pointed out that he has an agenda and he supports the Clinton's. That makes his opinion biased.
It can also be pointed out that he repeats mostly fallacies and you have to wonder why he was never quoted saying these things before.

We will need some facts,and he should be discredited simply because he has an agenda, but I think we just have to let this run its course.
I am going to look for some quoted from this guy from the 04 election period.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 01:40 PM
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31. McAuliffe can get on ANY corpmedia program he wants to get on.
Just like Carville and Begala.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:12 PM
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32. So we can look forward to a wonderful plethora of Kerry bashing festivities
on cable TV? Just wonderful . . .
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 02:23 PM
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33. If we keep on top of this and attempt to discredit McAullife with e-mails to the stations it might
draw to much attention.After all, it is very obvious what he is doing here and it is old news. One of the links providing info on the story is from ABC News already. I would figure they would jump on it. I would imagine CNN too, but MSNBC might air it, but with more negatives against McAuliffe. All we can do is counter it with the truth.
The timing I think is to discourage his money backers.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:03 PM
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38. That's what I think we should do, too. Kerry should have a spokesperson on every show, too.
The constant bashing is just not fair.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:56 AM
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12. Here is the offending thread, for people who can phrase answers betterr than I can
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:13 AM
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15. Thanks. I thought you got in the point that McAuliffe is a LOSER
pretty thoroughly.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:25 AM
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24. you were wonderful
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:59 AM
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14. Ah, the very existence of the liberal web is, in a way,
a chance for the grassroots of this Party to have a way to repudiate hacks like Terry McAuliffe. I am not going to pay him that much mind. There have been other books, like the one by Joe Klein and others that have maligned Democrats. This former Chairman of the Party and curretn shill for Hillary Clinton is just another in a long line of spineless bastids who want to stab other good Democrats in the back.

Thank God he is gone. Gov. Dean is doing a superb job at the DNC. Dean has the backing of the State Chairs because he actually gives a damn about the Democratic Party, unlike McAuliffe who only gave a damn about the big names in the Dem PArty and about his corporate contributors. (No, don't worry Wall St. Dems aren't serious about taking care of the poor and the middle class. That's just something we tell the chumps out there who volunteer for us. Honest, this guy was and is a clueless hack.)

I am so glad McAuliffe is gone. Of course, he took a swipe at Kerry on the way out. That's what cowards do. They wait until the game is over and it looks like someone is down and then they kick them. It's totally in character for this clueless, self-righteous bastid.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:35 AM
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26. I guess the saving grace is that this is Hillary's team
I wouldn't wish McAuliffe, Begala, Carville and Penn on anyone. They seem incapable of introspection and assessing anything that they could have done wrong. They are also, quite possibly, a pretty amoral group of people.

The latter 3 also think they are God's gift to a campaign. But if they are all geniuses and Bill Clinton, the best natural politician of all times - why were they at one point 3 out of 3 in polling and why was the race ever close. If Perot wouldn't have imploded and seemed crazy, I have no idea who would have won. (Clinton was great at the town hall debate - but not as good at the others.) Clinton was facing a Bush with an approval rating 10 points lower than Kerry's opponent. If W were down another 10 points, Kerry would have won by a landslide. (Yet Kerry and Mary Beth Cahill were pathetic)

Something doesn't add up there.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:07 PM
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40. Except, the powerstucture in DC won't mind another Clinton in office and
won't steal, cheat or fight as nasty as they did against Kerry.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:58 AM
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19. I think it is locked
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:10 AM
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20. More than that -- it was completely deleted. That was fast. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:20 AM
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21. And just as quickly, someone posted another:
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:31 AM
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25. Battle stations...
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 10:52 AM by rox63
Looks like we may have to play whack-a-mole on these threads today. Watch out for the Hillary-bots.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 11:14 AM
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30. Why now?
It's the same timing as Carville assault on Dean.

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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:21 AM
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22. Now I will be wondering --- What did
someone say? It has to be pretty harsh to delete a whole thread doesn't it?

I am glad that McAuliffe came out. This is like the unifying source of all the hack attacks.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:24 AM
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23. What is weird - is who wanted it removed or locked
Treullian looked like a fool. We countered all the arguments - in fact I wish I saved some of those others put up!

This really is a case where McAuliffe is clearly in the wrong.
- he lost 3 elections - not one.
- BLMs off repeated post of Kerry winning his match ups with Bush and the DNC being pathetic is 100% absolutely right as the counter.
-Why didn't McAuliffe - on his own - use ALL the information available and blow the charges out of the water. As Kerry showed defending Murtha and Murphy righeous indignation for someone else plays far better. (I mean McAuliffe defended Clinton when some actions were indefensible - here Kerry was more than just "not quilty" he was a real war hero!)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:44 AM
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27. I expanded my response above
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:50 AM
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28. Diary on Kos -- not doing well (thankfully) -- only 2 recs
But I'm going to respond and shamelessly steal Wisteria's quotes (hope you don't mind, wisteria).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/5/101849/0529
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 10:55 AM
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29. Oh be my guest. Thanks for considering them. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:10 PM
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34. New diary at Kos:
Edited on Fri Jan-05-07 03:10 PM by ProSense
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 03:49 PM
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35. My hero.
heh
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 05:01 PM
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37. Mentioned by Will Geist
in the last five minutes of Tucker Carlson's hideous show.

Of course, suddenly Terry McCauliffe is someone the repugs are dying to listen to. Funny, that.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 06:42 PM
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39. Weighed in here: What A Party - What A Hypocrite
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:27 PM
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41. Bring me the head of Terry McAuliffe!

Democratic leaders need to look in the mirror when they ask why they lost the Senate. One much-needed quick fix: Replace the failed party chair.

By Arianna Huffington

November 7, 2002 | The Republicans got it all Tuesday night. They got the House. They got the Senate. They got at least 20 of the 36 governorships at stake. And they got a massive boost of political momentum -- just as those ever-unreliable polls were hinting at a leak in the president's high-flying popularity balloon.

The Democrats, on the other hand, got almost nothing -- other than a kick in the butt and, one hopes, a wake-up call. Heading into Election Day, the party leadership had been positively giddy. Democratic National Committee chair Terry McAuliffe even went so far as to guarantee a win in the Florida governor's race, crowing, "Jeb Bush is gone." He also gladly accepted Tim Russert's challenge to put his money where his mouth was by donating $2,000 to charity if his prediction of surefire Senate wins for Walter Mondale and Jean Carnahan didn't pan out. Get out your checkbook, Terry. And while you've got that pen in your hand, why not start jotting down your letter of resignation?





http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/2002/11/07/mcauliffe/index.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 07:35 PM
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42. That would make a good thread in GD-P. A trip down memory lane for the Reviser in chief.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 08:02 PM
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43. Nice find
how can he blame this on the MA Senator - maybe he can claim that Kerry wasted effort in his race by winning by over 80%. Maybe he should have gone to other states to help or donated money.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-05-07 09:13 PM
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44. Another poisonous thread
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 02:24 AM
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45. F*ck F*ck F*ck YOU TERRY!
Oooh that felt good.

I am so sick of everyone picking on Kerry. Especially when it comes from a weasel like Terry.

And besides, what kind of idiot bashes someone in their own party anyway??????

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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-06-07 09:26 AM
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46. From this article I get the feeling that
this book might throw some light on who is behind all the anti-kerry hack attacks at places like Huff post, America blog, Crook +Liars, and Raw Story as well as the mainstream media noise machine. I would like to see a copy of it.
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