DO NOT WATCH TV.

Just a heads up.

Do not turn on any cable news shows.

They are gleeful and brutal.

Just don't do it.

Just a bit ago I turned on CNN, and they are full of BS.

Insincere as the Senate was, at least it was classy.

This is crass beyond all levels of observed crassness in human history.

I'm deadly serious, not exaggerating. They have got these asshole "party insiders" up there, trashing him and snickering. Just don't watch it. There is nothing, nada, worth hearing.

Funny, that's pretty much a description of my mood as well. What I really hope is that the senator and Teresa are doing okay. I hope they are not watching the fucking television. Maybe they will have a quiet evening surrounded by close friends and family. There must be some pain there and all I can do is send positive thoughts their way.

corruption and their desire to protect the status quo. They are pigs!

I feel for the poor delusional souls who think this isn't going to happen to their candidate. *sigh*

You know -- there's going to be a backlash against this. It won't happen for a while, but there will be a backlash. Someone will suddenly stand up, and say -- wait a minute, that's not right. It happened for Gore, it will happen for Kerry. I'll still skim through Jim Lehrer and KO, though. They're the least silly news on TV.

I've run across some nastiness about Kerry. I've never understood it - the anti-Kerry sentiment.

That's why I headed over here. I've no use for the gleeful dancing on his grave at this point. It's vile. :puke:

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I've believed for some time that John Kerry is America's last, best hope. Of course, I respect the optimism among some others here. But I can't share it. This country is headed for a very brutal, bleak future. Where is our FDR? Where is our Lincoln? He was right in front of our faces the entire time, but this fool country was too blind to see. And that blindness will have a heavy price, I am afraid.

I think my contemplation of moving to another country for a few years has just gotten much more serious. This country - including its "liberals" - seem fully determined to steer us straight into the iceberg. I see no point in going down with a ship that determinedly sailed into its own doom despite the PLEAS of many good-hearted souls to turn around and take a different course.

In every way possible. As far as I can see, this was our generation's last hope to get it right, to leave you the country you deserve. It's possible Webb will step up, his problem with Reagan was our ships protecting oil platforms. Other than that, all I see is a bunch of muddle of the roaders who are willing to let the country stay in denial about the catastrophic challenges we face. I'm sad for our country and the world today, not so much John himself because he will be fine.

Kerry talked about 1971, noting that some disagreed with him mentioning Sen. Webb. Webb responded later bringing up some poll saying Americans were overwhelmingly against having the Communists taking over South Vietnam in 1972. He said there was NO comparison between Vietnam and Iraq. Basically, he dissed Kerry. The guy is blind as a bat as far as Vietnam goes. He pretty much said nobody should talk about Vietnam. I was stunned. Now Webb wasn't rude -- he was talking like a senator, but I just didn't like it one bit.

And now The Nation is talking about him running for president. WTF? He's my senator and it's his first elected office, and I'd like him to stay senator and understand it is his job first and foremost to serve Virginia.

If you didn't get to see it, maybe a video or transcript will become available. Maybe you can tell me whether I am overreacting or not.

His decision to resign his Navy position over the use of the military to protect oil platforms gained him some respect in my eyes. I just hope he applies that wisdom to Iraq and not his personal desire to 'not lose' another one. He's right in one sense that Iraq isn't Vietnam, there is a possibility of international attacks from that region. The Vietnamese communists were never going to attack anybody or anything, which I don't know that Webb grasps yet. I also don't think he gets the difference between a preferred outcome and willingness to lay down your life for that outcome. It's unfortunate Vietnam went communist, but at the same time, the person who opened the door for them to come out from under communism is John Kerry. It proves there are better ways to fight ideology than war. That's what Webb still needs to figure out. I hope some time with JK will do that for him. It also might be another reason he decided not to run. There may be deep Iraq differences between him and Webb that haven't surfaced, which would mean he would have to fight those in our own party - AGAIN. Anyway, I'm not ready to give up on Webb yet.

He gave a fantastic Democratic response, and talks about things in a new and different way. I just hope that what happened yesterday doesn't become a regular occurrence because I really want to like Webb, but fear Vietnam will get in the way of that.

What I think he was saying, in part anyway, is that it's the same problem of stubborn,wrong-headed leadership that will not or cannot change course by itself, and must be "persuaded" of it by the other branch of government. That's the connection.

Right now, no... I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the way things are going or in the way they will go over the short term (3-5 years). The one thing I do have confidence in is the potential of my generation, our generation, to do this the right way. Call it the impetuousness of youth, but I really feel that people in our age bracket, at least the ones paying attention, are on the whole rather liberal and attentive to the problems we face. They may not be the most vociferous advocates for peace (like during the '60s), but I do know that our generation does not look on war eagerly. I know that our generation is largely not racist or homophobic. I know that our generation cares about the environment and about people all over the world who are suffering. I have not seen the callous disregard for the weak and powerless we typically see from the far right among our generation. While we may be in hot water for now, I firmly believe that starting in the next 15 years and continuing for the whole period the "millenials" rule the world, we will see a high tide of progressivism and positive change. I really think we can make it happen, and I believe we will. Many people say we are cynical, and we are. But if we are cynical, it is directed at the tired, shortsighted policies that have brought us here and the politicians who have lead us to this place. But this too shall pass.

He has no intention of calling off the fight for a better America.

He's better than me, because I'm disgusted with my country right now and don't think it even deserves a rescue effort. People are so ignorant and apathetic!!

My daughter thinks we should retire to the French countryside when the time comes. It's looking better and better.

JK was too good and decent for most people--you have to lie, cheat, steal and mis-represent yourself in order to be popular now, it seems.

I know I'm being bitter, but I can't help it.

I should explain my own plans better, and my rationale for why I'm doing what I'm doing (or trying to do). I'm afraid it looks entirely self-serving and nothing but naked ambition. There is more to it than that.

There is no other JK. And I have no doubt that he'll continue to be a force. I have heard things to suggest that he intends to be fully unleashed since he doesn't have to worry about how something will play. He can do whatever the Hell he wants without worrying about the political game.

But, whatever he does in the Senate (and, I hope, the Cabinet someday) the Executive is important, as is who occupies that office. Of those who are running and have a chance of winning, I have a preference for who occupies that office. (Some here would disagree with my preference, and I respect that. There is no other JK after all.) If I can't have JK as the Executive, I want someone who is friendly to him and what he stands for. I like the idea of him as Secretary of State or Attorney General, whichever -- if either -- he would prefer, and want someone who would be open to giving him that. Of the three who appear to have a chance of winning, I see only one who I'm reasonably confident might offer him a seat. I also want to be in the position of advocating for JK to a Democrat who can win. Making sure that he gets the respect and credit that he deserves by the eventual nominee. I can't do that as effectively as an outsider.

That's what I usually watch, so I'll be safe, I think. I caught a few min. of ABC's evening news walking by, and they told the news about Kerry without commenting. NPR did the same, including a short clip of his speech on the floor (the part where his voice was breaking with emotion). But no snark from them either.

I can imagine the feeding frenzy, though. F--- 'em all.

Nothing, or something negative about JK?

for a Kerry 08 run. The transcript isn't up yet or I would link.

about the senator's clandestine exploration into the possibility of a run. He was too busy liking Clinton's boots to devote much time to Kerry. He aired an interview with Hillary, the second part of a previously recorded interview.

I guess we know where KO's priorities are now.

Oh well, it was a nice infatuation while it lasted. FU KO.

I was just thinking about you, too, for some reason.

We turned on Imus the morning - he has absolutely no decency at all. He had Michael Graham (Boston hate radio on) and they both agreed on Kerry and Teresa. Apparently no one in Boston likes Kerry - so all those people I saw must have been tourists - many of whom had learned the Boston accent. Imus called him phony, but said he was "sometimes able to get through that". He said Teresa was even worse and, in fact worse than Hillary. This says all any one needs to know about these two jerks.

If he actually wants phony, he should look at his dear friend McCain, who likely doesn't even know who he is any more.

You have a stronger stomach than I do to attempt to watch his program, that's for sure. I haven't been able to do that since he was so nasty to JK just before the '04 election. What an asshole he is. I can't bear to watch, read or listen to any media right now, nor will I be venturing out into DU-GD/GDP Land. This is going to take a while.

all. That was uncall for. Why did he feel a need to say such things. What a lier.

is one of the most maddening accusations thrown at him, because he is anything but.

Beyond revulsion, anger and disgust - there was the instant recognition that this phony former druggie classless joke was the phony. He's the one who swing between saying how nice Kerry is then turning around to say garbage like this. (I only wonder what Kerry did to anger him - turn down going on his show?)