I had the most horrible Kerry dream....

Before I go any further, this dream left me in shock. I'm not sure what to make of it, and I wanted to see if anyone had some insight....

Someone posted something last week about one of their dreams, and I thought I'd post the most horrible dream I had the last night. Basically it was in two parts, the first part was Kerry announcing he was running for President again. And I guess I was at the announcement speech as well. Oh, how I wish that were true. But then it kinda got fuzzy and blurry, and from what I remember of the rest of it they were speculating about Kerry's chances in my dream (seemed all too realistic to me) and I was watching the TV in my living room (how I was back home just hours of the announcement--not sure) just watching them speculate on Kerry's chance when the anchor cut off some commentary.

The anchor basically said he had a piece of breaking news, and the screen was overtaken with a big graphic of Senator Kerry and the caption on the screen down near the ticker was "Senator John Kerry Pronounced Dead"

And the anchor literally didn't say anything in my dream for a little bit, and then it picked back up and they were talking about how Kerry's family was taking it and his supporters. In the dream they posed it as an apparent shooting, like that of JFK. I remember crying in my dream, and my mother comforting me.

I know this all seems alarming, and when I woke up I got a little emotional and I checked the news "just in case" and I just wanted to know if anyone knows what this means?

:shrug: I don't EVER want to have dreams like that again!!

And when I do it's stupid stuff like me playing with my cat or the last dream I remembered before this I was at some family picnic.

So this caught me off guard, and I felt it had some sort of meaning. And I really just wanted to understand it, because it bothered me.

It's easier to not repress the fact that the hate directed at him was intensely scary. While he was running, even dealing with the fact that these constant smear and vicious charges hurt poilitically was draining. Thinking of the posible impact that they could have on the less stable was too much to think of.

Also, hanging out here and realizing how much a real threat he is to those who are corrupt is scary. I assume he has more security than is obvious.

This resonates with me. Thanks (I think) for this insight.

Death in a dream means the end of something and the beginning of something else. It can also represent anger. Maybe you were rehashing all the pain and loss you felt in 2004. That would be my guess.

If you are worried about precognition, dreams usually aren't literal in that respect either. I'm a doubter but I've had experience with people who have had an uncanny ability to have "warning" dreams. The person who the dream was about was never the person actually in danger. I'm not saying this is clairvoyance or that I necessarily believe in it. The subconscious mind might simply be evaluating things that the conscious mind misses. In any case, the fact is that my mother had these types of dreams and so has my daughter. I'm about as psychic as a lump of coal, but I've seen enough to know there is always something to what the unconscious has to say. The thing is, it never speaks in our language. There is a lot lost in translation.

So however you take your dreams, don't worry. JK will be fine and healthy for may years. He damn well better or he'll have to face a LOT of angry Kerrycrats one day in the hereafter. :D

You might get a chuckle from my strange JK dream:

This was from 2004 and it sure as HELL didn't come true! I dreamed that I awoke one night to find there was an unexpected someone sleeping in my bed. I jumped up and startled the person awake. It was...yeah. I screamed. Like in a horror movie, screamed. Then he sat up and apologized for waking me up and began to thank me for opening my home to them. Then T sat up next to him. They said they could never have afforded a presidential campaign if it weren't for all the kind people letting them stay with them. In the dream I remember thinking they were both completely nuts and wondering what the Hell I'd signed along with my contribution. They were both wearing flannel pajamas and they sat up to thank me as straight as boards and very formal just like the farmer and his wife in that old painting (you know, the one with the pitchfork and barn). And all I could think of was that my place was a mess. Strange, huh?

I realize dreams aren't warnings, but this dream seemed so realistic at times this morning I had to get up and just check the news. I've never really 100% made my peace with the election results of 2004, and probably never will. It'll always anger me, and think of what could and should have been. But I don't know, deep down I think this had something to do with what you said. The end of something (Kerry as a Presidential candidate) and the start of something new. To be honest with you, while I wish he would have ran, I felt a lot of weight was lifted when he decided against it. After following Kerry's Presidential run since 2003, I felt years and years of the media beating him up was finally ending. I could feel the political chains of Presidential politics being unchained, and seeing Senator Kerry's leadership in the aftermath.

He's been absolutely wonderful in rebounding since 2004, and I'm very proud he's continued to stand up for what he believes in and showed the leadership our country lacks at this point. So I think this dream was something to do with me making peace with his choice about 2008, and realizing it's in my heart to still follow John and stand by his side with anything he choices to lead upon.

The pain of that loss in 2000 was horrible. It sent me into black depression and it was a turning point in my life. Everything has been downhill since then and I've only been able to lessen the descent in recent years. That's probably the basis of my strange dream: I was warning myself not to believe too strongly, not to care as much as I did in 2000. Instead, I ended up caring more. But the kind of pain from 2000, like you experienced in 2004, only comes once: like a steel sword forged in fire. We're stronger for that pain, which is why we are still here and still fighting for what we believe in.

It hurts deep down like a punch in the gut every time someone says something nasty about Senator Kerry. He might be but one human being, albeit a very exceptional human being, but to me, he's also the symbol of an ideal. It's not who he is, but what he stands for. Every time John Kerry is attacked, it feels like truth and justice are being degraded.

Years ago, I had to accept the same disappointment. The man I supported lost to Nixon. He was a decent and kind senator. Sound familiar? I've been thinking about him a lot since Kerry's announcement. He was a former senator and then Vice President and later he ran again for the Senate after his bid for the presidency. He remained in the Senate for the rest of his life. Hubert Humphrey was a decent, intelligent and kind man. He lost to a lying scumbag. Sound familiar? I understand John Kerry's decision not to run and have accepted it, as you have, but HELL it hurt! TWICE I've seen this happen. History repeats. But something is different here. John Kerry isn't just returning to work as usual. He's using his national profile and his name recognition and his e-mail list to bring about some real changes in the status quo. That kind of leadership is rare and it gives me hope. Scratch any died-in-the-wool cynic and you will find a wounded idealist. We hurt and we harden, but it's only armor. And armor is what your wear for battle. Kerry on! Is that a windmill I see on the horizon or is it an elephant?

The Kerrys in your bed. I love it. Makes my dreams about Kerry (playing basketball, talking to crowds, staring thoughtfully out windows) seem mundane and tedious.

this is wonderful :rofl:

I just mentioned to my husband earlier that the Senator doesn't look well, and seems to have a lingering cough and sniffles. I hope we aren't having group premonitions. :scared:

Senator Kerry works so hard and keeps such a brutal schedule. He's dealing with extremely stressful issues on a daily basis. He's literally got the world on his shoulders, not to mention a lot of carping, nagging, snarky dinkweeds bitting at his arse. He's not superhuman but he sure works like he is. This is a concern. It's beyond me how anyone could live the life he does without cracking up or breaking down physically. He's strong, but still it's natural to worry when you see someone overworked and in stressful situations.

He needs to add a masseuse, a sommelier and a chocolatier to his staff. And a really good chef to fatten him up. :D

And good insights, too

I have always feared how far the right is willing to go to stop him from well, stopping them, but it's never played out in my dreams. Something I find very strange, as I have a lot of nightmares, especially about the future. Whenever I dream of JK, though, the dreams are always of a distinctly positive nature.

what a great group of people you all are. :) As I keep saying, JK has the best supporters. Just no contest.

Maybe this is your way of mourning the fact that JK is not running for president, and may never run for president. When I dream about death, it's usually really about a recent or upcoming major life change.

I'm sure that the dream is just symbolic of the death of dreams for Kerry '08, and as DD and others said, it probably expresses feelings about how the Republicans and the media are constantly doing character assassination against him. I know people who were writing fan fiction about the campaign back in '04, and after the election, at least one person, probably more, wrote "assassination fic" that was clearly symbolic of how we felt about the Republicans trying to "kill" JK -- featuring scenes of Edwards crying on JK's grave and so forth. It was very cathartic but had nothing to do with literal reality. People need to think in symbols that way sometimes. I don't think your dream was any kind of premonition; it was just expressing feelings about what's happened.

It was strange enough seeing that for the Beatles. I guess he and Teresa would make extremely interesting characters in a novel, except people might complain that Kerry was way too unlikely - and that's real life before you get to fiction. Too much heroics and too involved in every major event - Forrest Gump works because he is a non-entity.

I mean seriously - would you make up a character who dated Jackie's step sister, was the best kind of war hero, led a moral anti-war effort - speaking before Congress with more eloquence than all but a few people in that century, was one of first to get something real done on acid rain, exposed the illegal US support for the Contras, acted against a terrorist bank with tentacles into the highest ranks of both parties - before winning the Democratic nomination for President in spite of all that. Do you really want me to believe that a real person did all of this? and the Republicans cast him as an empty suit and weren't laughed off the planet?????

Not to mention - John Lennon, Bruce Springsteen and Bono, at some time or other praised him. All of this in a book or movie would be way too much - and that doesn't even mention that Teresa is pretty amazing as well.