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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:26 AM
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Kerry endorsing Obama
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 09:27 AM by rox63
See GDP for a million threads to that effect.

Edit: Breaking News banner on MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:30 AM
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1. YEAH!!!!!
I am VERY HAPPY about this.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:30 AM
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2. MSNBC
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 09:54 AM by TayTay
reports this.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:31 AM
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3. Wonderful
I hope it will be carried on CSPAN, I'll go check.
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semie_21 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:54 AM
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34. Obama event
is streaming on CNN from Charleston.
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semie_21 Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:55 AM
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35. should be cnn.com
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:32 AM
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4. Woo-Damn-Hoo!!!!
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:38 AM
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5. Did not find anything on CSPAN :-(
Do you happen to know when this is supposed to take place?
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:41 AM
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6. Great news. Cam Kerry was attending to Obama's fundraiser in Boston Tuesday and
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 09:42 AM by Mass
with the interview in Attleboro, it was clear it was coming. Obviously, I am very happy, but not too surprised.

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:42 AM
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7. I would also like to add
that I think this PERFECT TIMING.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:45 AM
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8. good! and I agree that it's perfect timing
who was it who said that JK was the most underrated politician in America? Well, he(I do remember that it was a "he") was right.
Please, anyone, who gets wind of timing of the rally, etc. . let us know
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:49 AM
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9. Now is the time where you see sour grapes on GDP...
Nothing surprising though.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:50 AM
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10. Cool.
I'm very pleased. Obama is my favorite in the current campaign, so now I don't need to switch. Because I would have at JK's recommendation--I mean it. Even for a certain candidate that I don't like at all. This time I'm not as emotionally attached (JK still has that spot in my heart) but there is room to like another who is an ally. It's like a very good friend saying, "I'd like you to meet my little brother". ;)

Lookin' forward to a joint appearance by the two of them.

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:03 AM
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11. Salon has it too:
More than a little sour grape-y...

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/01/10/obama/index.html


Thursday, Jan. 10, 2008 09:32 EST
Kerry to endorse Obama

John Kerry said Wednesday that he was very close to endorsing a Democratic candidate for president, and sources now tell the Associated Press that he has settled on Barack Obama. CNN says the two senators will appear together today at an event in South Carolina.

Sen. Dick Durbin said just before the New Hampshire primary that several senators were poised to endorse Obama. To the extent Kerry's endorsement will help him -- and to the extent that it was already in the bag -- he might have been better served by announcing it before New Hampshire voted. Kerry won New Hampshire in the 2004 Democratic primary but lost South Carolina to John Edwards.

Obama received the endorsement of South Dakota Sen. Tim Johnson Wednesday. The fact that goes without saying: One Johnson plus one Kerry probably doesn't carry the weight of one Al Gore. The former vice president's endorsement of Howard Dean may not have helped him in 2004, but the Nobel Prize-winning Gore is viewed just a little differently by Democrats now than he was then. No word on when -- or even if -- Gore will endorse. \
― Tim Grieve

Posted in: Barack Obama, 2008 Election
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:06 AM
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12. Them grapes is not even sensible enough to be sour
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:07 AM by Luftmensch067
Them grapes is just plain silly. :-)

p.s. YAY!!!!
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:12 AM
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13. GDP is fun right now. Kerry's endorsement is worth nothing, but he should have endorsed {name
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:13 AM
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14. Of course it's worth nothing!
Why else would it be the only question he's been asked for months? :-)
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:26 AM
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16. The Hill-bots and Kerry-bashers are piling on in the various GDP threads n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:30 AM
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18. but I also saw lots of positive comments..
I guess it's a matter of expectations . I came at those threads, assuming that they'd be 100% negative, so was pleased to see that was by no means the case. . and not just complimenting Kerry on his choice, but saying nice things about him.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 AM
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21. The Edwards supporters are pissed
and they are bringing up all the anti-Kerry trash talk they can.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 AM
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24. Are they blind? How is it possible that they expected him to endorse Edwards.
Even without thinking of the relationship between the two, why would Kerry endorse somebody who cannot win?
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM
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28. You said it
because they are blind, and so is Edwards.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:29 AM
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17. Funny indeed
"he should have waited", "lost all respect", "it goes against party unity", etc., etc. Obama people on the other hand seem happy :-).
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:30 PM
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47. I really hate those lines n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:15 AM
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15. Tim Grieve has always been a jerk to Kerry n/t
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM
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27. Absolutely. n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM
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29. just re-read this (call me a masochist. . : )
but the contrast between Gore and Kerry just stood out.

Timing (and IMHO choice) of Gore's endorsement seemed to me, both at the time, and also reflecting on it more than 4 years later, bad all around: off in its timing (premature (for the process), too late (for Dean, IMHO, and also -- because both the choice and the timing were off-key-- bad for Gore himself, not just the race.

In contrast, Kerry's choice AND timing seem to me perfect. First, he waited until the first primaries were done, and until his real Senate friends had bowed out of the race. The humane thing, the wise thing, and great timing for the process. The timing honors the importance of IA and NH making their very independent choices, allowing those events to unfold without interference, and , and allowing the first winnowing take its own natural course. And it seems to me an authentic choice on part of Kerry: another sign of his integrity, and also a suggestion that he's signed really to join this fight (unlike some of JK's "friends" in 2004). For all these reasons, Kerry's endorsement will enhance Kerry's reputation as well. Win-win-win: for the process, for Obama, for the Dems, for Kerry.

JK, the most underrated politician in America.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:40 AM
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19. announcement will be at 2 pm today
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:40 AM by MBS
See http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/10/kerry-to-endorse-obama/

(CNN) – Former 2004 presidential hopeful Sen. John Kerry will endorse Sen. Barack Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination, two sources told CNN Thursday.

The announcement will come at 2 p.m. in Charleston, S.C., the sources said.

"(Kerry) remains one of the most popular figures in the Democratic Party and (has) an e-mail list with millions of addresses," an Obama source said.


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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 AM
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25. Our faith in JK is not without merit.

"(Kerry) remains one of the most popular figures..."

You would never guess this looking at DU. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a dysfunctional family (except for this forum). The fixation on Edwards baffles me, because I don't see him as the populist hero that they all do. But I don't bash any candidates unless they have an "R" after their names.

It's good to know that DU's attitude about JK isn't the majority opinion, isn't it? He's still got a lot of political clout and he knows it. I'm sure he carefully considered the timing of the announcement and made the right choice, regardless of what some knuckleheads at DU think.
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europegirl4jfk Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM
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20. Absolutely cool news!
These two are my favorite American politicians. Well, Kerry is still the number one but Obama is right behind. :bounce:

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:53 AM
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33. Neat picture :-) n/t
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hibiscus Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:42 PM
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48. I like this picture
Very nice :-)
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dwahzon Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 AM
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22. Posted on DailyKos now
This diary could probably use some attention from any kossaks that hang out here.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/10/9247/27809/988/434306">Breaking: John Kerry Endorses Barack Obama

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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 AM
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23. Post at Liberal Values
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2685

John Kerry Endorses Barack Obama

John Kerry is endorsing Barack Obama for the 2008 Democratic nomination. The two will be making a joint appearance today in Charleston, South Carolina. I am not at all surprised by this, having long considered Obama to be the most like Kerry of the 2008 candidates, especially when the second tier candidates were excluded. Kerry and Obama both share similar foreign policy views, with both opposing the Iraq war before its start, in contrast to Clinton and Edwards. Both have expressed an intellectual dedication to liberal values which are severely lacking in both Clinton and Edwards. Both have shown a willingness to consider ideas beyond the Democratic Party orthodoxy. The major difference is that while Kerry has more experience, Obama is a better campaigner with a better chance of winning a general election and moving beyond the old blue/red state divide.

It is particularly no surprise that Kerry would not endorse his 2004 running mate, John Edwards. Edwards would not have been Kerry’s choice other than for political considerations and this wound up being one of the more significant errors made by the Kerry campaign. Edwards was a light weight on the campaign trail, and often an embarrassment to the campaign such as in his debate against Dick Cheney. Edwards was not able to bring in southern votes as hoped, and could not even win his home state. Edwards also showed far more concern for his own 2008 run than for the good of the ticket or party. This included refusing to take a forceful line against the Republicans as Edwards wanted to preserve his sunny, nice guy image. Edwards further lost the respect of many Kerry supporters after the election as he attempted to rewrite the history of the campaign to make himself look better at Kerry’s expense.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:58 AM
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26. Woo hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:45 AM
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30. JRE has issued a statement about this endorsement
“Our country and our Party are stronger because of John’s service, and I respect his decision. When we were running against each other and on the same ticket, John and I agreed on many issues. I continue to believe that this election is about the future, not the past, and that the country needs a President who will fight aggressively to end the status quo and change the Washington system and to give voice to all of those whose voices are ignored in the corridors of power.”

In regard with the nasty comments Kerry is getting over this, it was not unexpected to me, and as a JRE supporter, I think it's great that Kerry found a candidate he can get behind.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:46 AM
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31. As I said in GDP, the statement is very classy...
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:52 AM
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32. Hi Benny05
:hi:

I'm glad that JK and JRE are being a lot classier about this than some of the folks over in GDP.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:58 AM
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36. Yes and unfortunately some JRE supporters are surprised by this
But I guess they didn't know those two as well as we do. :-)

I find it funny too that over at Kos they are trying to tell Edwards to drop out of the race and back someone. This race is far from being over and I'm sick of the COM attitude that has broken out at the Daily Kos. This is our democracy and not the media's, as far as I am concerned.

Did you also hear that George Miller from CA endorsed Obama? I was kind of surprised by that one.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:37 PM
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41. That is really nice Benny
I don't think this is a slap at Edwards. I think Obama needs SC and JK is trying to let voters there know that he can count on Dem leadership support.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:24 PM
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37. Yay! n/t
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:30 PM
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38. It's still mind boggling
the avalanche of venom the news triggered both here and elsewhere (did not check Kos, but had a quick look at comments at cnn, boston.com, etc.). Some nice comments too, to be sure, quite a few, and I do not think I read a comment from an Obama supporter expressing discontent with the endorsement. Still the amount of pure unadulterated VENOM continues to puzzle me...
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM
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39. I've NEVER understood the amount of s____ he has to deal with
. . for doing good, mind you.

I could understand (to some extent) frustration with IWR vote, even frustration over Ohio.. but it seems like so many people are just waiting to trash him for ANYthing he does. . sometimes it feels like his most worthy actions get even the worst press.

And so undeserved.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM
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40. Here is the key word
"avalanche." Kerry is not irrelevant, and people wanted him to endorse their candidate.

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:49 PM
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42. That is absolutely true n/t
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:13 PM
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43. Good news for Obama.
I am sorry for any Kerrycrats who don't like this endorsement, though.

But for myself ...

:woohoo: :bounce: :toast:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:30 PM
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46. I do too n/t
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:20 PM
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44. A couple of pics here
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:38 PM
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45. I think the guy on the right
Is still a hunk. He photographs so well.
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wildflowergardener Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 05:10 PM
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49. Edwards and Kerry question
I am still undecided, but it is either Obama or Edwards. This endorsement may make a difference to me. Can anyone PM me to refresh my memory of what John Edwards possibly has done that might be bad towards John Kerry - I don't want to turn this into a negative Edwards post which is why I ask to keep it private - but I know there were some things his wife said which I wouldn't hold hime responsible for necessarily - knew I had a reason I had some negative feelings towards him in the past for something he'd done to Kerry but I'm afraid I don't remember what that was and if it was bad enough to influence my decision one way or another. Still I liked him in the debate. I really liked Edwards in 2004 - I just am not remembering exactly what happened - so anyone please pm me privately a quick summary to refresh my memory if you have the time - not here if you could. Thanks. I didn't want to start a whole thread for this so posted it here.

Meg
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