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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:17 AM
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For your pleasure (If Suffolk finds Kerry doing well, who can complain).
Edited on Thu Aug-07-08 08:30 AM by Mass
http://media-newswire.com/release_1070010.html

U.S. Sen. John Kerry, who faces opponents in both the Democratic Primary and General Election, led Democrat Ed O’Reilly 64 percent to 20 percent in the Primary and Republican Jeffrey Beatty 51 percent to 29 percent in a head-to-head race.


This poll had Obama leading McCain 47 to 38, so it is probably loaded to the right. BTW, the sample is so small that the MOE is 4 % and the subgroups have little value.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:26 AM
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1. OMG, that is nice to read. Especially the way EOR is going to be whipped.
I think Kerry may be too "busy" to debate EOR. What are everyone else's thoughts on that?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:14 AM
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2. He may well be - he' s a pretty busy guy
and given that EOR decided it was reasonable at one time to say there were questions concerning his Kerry's service (SBVT) and recently jumping on Kerry for posing for a picture with girls happy and excited to see him - something EOR likely has no experience with, it seems reasonable. The funny thing is that by making the issue that Kerry needs to schedule it personally, it may be easy for him to avoid it. (If the PUMAs complain, HRC never debated Tasini (??)) EOR's comment in yesterday's article is strange in admitting he needs Kerry to get more than minimal exposure for himself.

But, then again, I sort of think he might give him one debate - just because it seems MA is a state that would thing it important. I do think that if EOR does not have a campaign manager he will have to call Kerry's campaign manager and set it up - even if he feels it has to be Kerry.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:11 PM
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4. I think he is trying to be nice and not show up O'Reilly for the idiot he is. n/t
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 10:08 PM
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6. I guess it would be to EOR benefit if Kerry does not debate him.
(Though he seems to have found a supporter in one of the Eagle Tribune's on line blogger. This unnamed blogger is asking for Kerry to debate O'Reilly for some obscure reason.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 04:29 PM
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3. And a second nice poll.
http://www.politickerma.com/jeremyjacobs/618/kerry-maintains-large-lead-over-beatty

Kerry (D-Boston) leads Beatty (Harwich) by 27 points, 56 percent to 29 percent, in the new Rasmussen poll. Last month, Kerry had a slightly larger 31-point lead over his Republican challenger, 58 percent to 27 percent.


Also good favorable numbers

Kerry was viewed favorably by 59 percent of respondents while 38 percent viewed him unfavorably. Almost half of the respondents - 49 percent - viewed the former presidential nominee as an average Democratic senator. Twenty-three percent said he is a top leader in party while 22 percent said he is an embarrassment to the party.


However, the last number shows that Kerry still has work to do for people to see that he is leading (or at least trying despite the opposition of some).
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 08:14 PM
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5. Well, those polled need to gain a litttle more knowledge about their senator.
23% say he is a leader in the party. I think it is a lot higher than that and with a President Obama Senator' Kerry will gain more of the postive attention he deserves.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 11:50 PM
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7. Hope he will do an interview with The Bay State Banner
It's a nice newspaper. They had a nice article on Uncle Ted a couple of months ago with a 1985 pic giving Christmas gifts to children. :)

They revamped the site also.

http://www.baystatebanner.com
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-08-08 06:39 AM
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8. One observation on the timing of the poll
Edited on Fri Aug-08-08 06:40 AM by karynnj
This was taken from July 31th to August 3rd. On July 30th, the Boston Herald had 3 articles on the photo non-story - having covered it for the first time slightly earlier. (Mass's July 30 post to see what was out there - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=273&topic_id=150925&mesg_id=150925) This could have hurt the initial sampling.

Also, there is likely some game playing by the angry HRC people - especially on the leadership question. Their response more likely follows their desire than their perception of reality. On terrorism and Iraq, it is Kerry's position that people are moving to. Neither Clinton articulated a detailed position on either that moved the issue forward. On the morgage crisis, between getting the affordable housing fund he fought years for and his and Smith's provision to give the states money to help re-negotiate rates, Kerry was one of the leaders on this. (On healthcare, we all know who did more to design S-CHIP. :) ) On the environment, other than Gore, there is no one more influencial than Kerry. On ethics, Kerry got the Cunningham bill passed - that sets a precedent that you can take away pensions - for those who complain that the reasons are too limited, it is easier to amend it to add reasons. The fact is that it is HRC who has in reality been a pretty average Senator, while Kerry has led. I don't remember a single major thing she introduced (other than her clone of Kid'd First), much less passed.

THese numbers are good in themselves and likely should improve as Kerry campaigns.

Playing with google, Tasini polled 17% - not far form EOR's numbers and she gave him no debates. Note how differently the NYT handled that race compared to its sister paper (BG) on Kerry's - Editorial
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The Democratic primary for senator in New York, which pits Hillary Clinton against an antiwar candidate, Jonathan Tasini, is not shaping up as a nail-biter. Mrs. Clinton has one of the best-known names on the planet, far more campaign money than she needs and an enormous lead in the polls. Mr. Tasini has a lot of spunk. What attention the race has been getting is due mainly to the proximity of Connecticut. If Democrats turned on Senator Joseph Lieberman because of his support for the war in Iraq, why shouldn’t they do the same to Mrs. Clinton, who also has refused to express regret for her vote to authorize the invasion?"

It then goes on to establish that HRC was not JL. In Kerry's case, he is not even HRC. As they state:
"All that said, she has hardly been a profile in courage. Almost every move Mrs. Clinton has made regarding Iraq reflected her desire to find — or create — a center position on every issue. The resolution she endorsed was extremely vague, more of a potential political embarrassment to the administration than a restriction on the military. Her speech in 2002 was classic triangulation, in which she posed two clear opposing positions and then placed herself in between. And her clash with Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld last month, while dramatic, was late in the game, and an obvious attempt to make it clear to the restive antiwar voters that she was not an appropriate target."

Kerry led on Kerry/Feingold, the resolution they implicitly HRC for not supporting, at a point that doing so led to him being vilified and of course, Kerry had been the first to call for Rumsfeld's resignation back in late 2003 and again in spring 2004.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/03/opinion/03sun1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


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