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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:22 PM
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The Hill: Survey of Senators ranked Kerry 5th most partisan Democrat
Not sure what to make of this article:

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/ranking-senate-partisans-2009-04-20.html

Ranking Senate partisans
By J. Taylor Rushing
Posted: 04/20/09 08:31 PM

Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) are the easiest senators to work with, while Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) and Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) are the most partisan members of the upper chamber, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

The Hill asked all 99 seated senators which member of the opposing party they most enjoyed partnering with on legislation. The senators were also quizzed (on a not-for-attribution basis) about their least favorite.

The answers reveal a Senate with surprising alliances, close friendships and some personal resentments.

After Kennedy, the most bipartisan Democrats are Sens. Tom Carper (Del.), Chris Dodd (Conn.), Evan Bayh (Ind.) and Tom Harkin (Iowa).

Following Collins on the GOP side are Sens. Olympia Snowe (Maine), Orrin Hatch (Utah), Richard Lugar (Ind.) and John McCain (Ariz.).

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Leahy attracted widespread criticism from GOP senators. Vice President Cheney famously told Leahy “to go f—- yourself” in 2004.

Aside from Leahy, the other Democratic senators deemed the hardest to work with are Schumer, Majority Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) and Dodd (Conn.).

“They’re guys that like to wield their positions,” said one GOP senator.

Dodd was the only senator who made both the bipartisan and partisan lists. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) is the fifth most partisan Democrat, according to the survey.

Democrats singled out Bunning, David Vitter (La.), Tom Coburn (Okla.) and DeMint as the most difficult. One Democratic senator called them “a bunch of 4-year-olds.”


At the link, you can click into what Democrats and Republicans said, but only positive stuff. What makes it strange is that apparently being called partisan makes you "difficult", but not always. Kerry is called partisan, but nobody expounds on that. They just ranked him there, and left it at that.

Kerry does have a liberal voting record, but based on hundreds of articles I have read, I have never heard of him being "difficult" to work with. I also have seen him being quite bipartisan all the time. Lugar did give a shout out in his comments. Kerry mentioned Lindsay Graham, Olympia Snow, Bob Crocker (??!!), and Dick Lugar as people he likes to work with. Still, I feel like the slant of the article was that if you were bipartisan you were likeable, and if you were partisan you were unlikeable.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 04:34 PM
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1. Not to mention - the opposite of partisan is non-partisan, not easy to work with
Even though he is incredibly successful working with Republicans, would Kennedy be listed as the easiest to work with if he wasn't suffering from cancer?
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 07:53 PM
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2. I saw this myself. What struck me was there was no mention of McCain. n/t
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:07 AM
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4. Actually, McCain was named 4th most bipartisan:
MOST BIPARTISAN

DEMOCRATS
1. Edward Kennedy (Mass.)
2. Tom Carper (Del.)
3. Chris Dodd (Conn.)
4. (tied) Evan Bayh (Ind.)
4. (tied) Tom Harkin (Iowa)

REPUBLICANS
1. Susan Collins (Maine)
2. Olympia Snowe (Maine)
3. Orrin Hatch (Utah)
4. (tied) Richard Lugar (Ind.)
4. (tied) John McCain (Ariz.)

LEAST BIPARTISAN

DEMOCRATS
1. Patrick Leahy (Vt.)
2. Charles Schumer (N.Y.)
3. Chris Dodd (Conn.)
4. Dick Durbin (Ill.)
5. John Kerry (Mass.)

REPUBLICANS
1. Jim Bunning (Ky.)
2. David Vitter (La.)
3. Tom Coburn (Okla.)
4. Jim DeMint (S.C.)
5. Lamar Alexander (Tenn.)
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:12 PM
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7. I looked twice and missed his name. Thanks. n/t
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 08:58 PM
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3. I like partisan
There is a role for bipartisanship to be sure but I think in the case of dens over the past decade there has been too
Much give and not enough take. Republicans band together to get whatever they want over the past eight years -- I think it perfectly appropriate to be partisan right back at them. (typing from iPod apologize terseness or typo)
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:09 AM
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5. Oh, I totally agree. That is why I do not like the tone of the article.
Equating partisanship with being sort of an a**hole is really ridiculous and I assume is as offensive to conservatives as it is to me. Also, partisanship does not necessarily mean being a hack. It means having principles and sticking to them, even when it is difficult to do so.
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Democrafty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:32 PM
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6. I really question the purpose of something like this.
I mean, have we gotten such ace legislation over the past few years that there's a legitimate argument for bipartisanship? Is there really any compelling reason to make things easier for GOP senators?

Granted, I'm a partisan hack. But that's largely because, for 8+ years, one party had SO much power, and did so much bad with it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:59 AM
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10. True - you kind of ask where the pundits were in 2005/2006
in the abysmal 109th Congress where there was no pretense of bipartisanship, just McCain regularly scowling that elections have consequences, often in response to Kerry.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:30 PM
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8. Kerry and Durbin, remember Kerry wanted Durbin as his VP
if he could have anyone without political consideration. but Durbin was seen as too similar to Kerry, the biggest being he was from a blue state.

there are many reasons i view this as a positive. it shows Kerry is willing to continue fighting for his causes. not just get his name on a bill . the same with Durbin.

also, KErry has embarrassed many of these people by beating them in debates(on and off camera).

Kerry and Durbin are both good men and probably some of the cleanest politicians out there.

the reason Schumer is one there is for different reasons. he is a jerk and attention whore.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:56 AM
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9. You make a lot of good points
I thought when the Chicago Tribune wrote years ago that Durbin had really been Kerry's first choice that it was a shame that he didn't stand up to all the powerful people pushing Edwards. Durbin was far more accomplished and every bit as much a self made man as Edwards. He was better on the issues and he would have actually fought for Kerry, rather than worrying about his own image. In addition, there is no one in the Senate who seems more an everyman to this Hoosier native. He would have made the difference in Iowa and he likely would have been more help in Ohio.

Your point on debate is stunningly true. When last given much coverage, Kerry was shredding whatever person McCain placed against him with seeming ease. This label and the negative connotation really are a consequence of Kerry's willingness to lend his gravitas, stature and eloquence as an attack dog for Obama. (who I hope appreciates it and understands it came at a real cost for Kerry - both in his image and in gaining a huge amount of Clinton animousity.)
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