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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:15 PM
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Kerry/Clinton on C-Span next
SS Agenda today, C-Span 1

They didn't show the Jackie Robinson award, or I missed it.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:17 PM
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1. He looks good
All nervous energy.

This forum was a great great idea. (I LOVE Harry Reid. Giving the Dems back their fighting side.)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:32 PM
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3. He was great
Dorgan was good too. I liked Kerry the best though, he was even better than Hillary. I don't know if it's because I like all those details or what. Did you notice "people think all this technical stuff is too complicated, that they can't understand it. Well yes you can, it's simple." Do you think that might be something he's adding to sort of offset that "Kerry is a wonk" stuff?

It was pretty funny when he said it was a good thing he couldn't move around on the stage or he might have decked somebody, that guy he was debating.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:55 PM
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7. He learned to speak more simply during the campaign,
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 10:56 PM by ginnyinWI
and can now go into that mode pretty easily.

It was interesting to hear that comment about wanting to "deck" somebody--this was referring to one of the primary debates (?)--maybe I'm reading more into it than it was, but was he trying to show something about himself? That he gets angry about issues? As in, "Democrats are not wimps"?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:39 PM
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20. i didn't watch but from sandnsea's post i assumed he was talking about
Bush.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:56 PM
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23. yeah maybe he was--
it would make more sense that he'd want to knock * down, or smack some sense into him!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 04:54 PM
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27. my bad--
I watched the repeat later last night. He was definitely referring to Bush. Nice to know what he was really thinking during the debate, beneath the cool exterior. I'm glad to know it. Inspires confidence.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 09:23 PM
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2. Jackie Robinson is tomorrow night
at 8:00 is the (sad) tribute to Tom Daschle. (JK was there.)
9:00 is the Jackie Robinson tribute that Kerry helped bring into being so that * could sweep in on and pretend he cared about.

I think Kerry has a cold
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:33 PM
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4. Thanks
They must have been advertising it and I got confused.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:18 PM
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14. Thanks
:hi:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:35 PM
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5. Pure Catnip moment (sigh!)
Sen. Kerry is very nicely introduced by Sen. Clinton

Kerry: "Thank you, thank you! I's nice to be back {in NYC} {...}It's wonderful to be back here at Pace. {...} I feel incredibly liberated on this stage, cuz I can move around. The last time I was here I was stuck behind a podium and if I'd been free to move around I probably would have walked over and decked somebody who was debating with me. It's lucky I didn't do it."

Ah me, that might be the best catnip line ever. I wish my esteemed Junior Senator had walked over and decked somebody during a debate, but I have no class. Sigh! That would have been great. Bet that somebody has a glass jaw and would have folded like paper sack. But I digress. One of the best catnip lines ever.

(I'd like to thank my Tivo for making this transcript possible.)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 10:55 PM
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6. I actually think he did that somebody more damage with his words
and well reasoned answers. I still can't believe he said that. Although I don't doubt his physical ability, I just can't picture your senator actually hitting anyone.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:03 PM
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8. Neither can I
But the fact that he even said it was really funny. And gives the lie to the phrase that Kerry is stiff and boring. (Although I do stipulate that he can be quirky sometimes.)

Everyone at this panel was nice and loose and looked like they were having fun there. They really looked like they were enjoyed the chance to speak up FOR a program they really believed in. I was very happy to see all the Senators (mine included) start to talk about this program in such a powerful way. Supporting social programs and providing a way to give shelter from the various economic storms of life IS a moral value and we should talk about it as such.

I am just very pleased with how this all went. Wonderful forum and I hope they do many more. (The format worked incredibly well and looked good on TV as well.)

I'm showing the lot of 'em (including the civilians) some love here: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:09 PM
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10. Are all of the Dems on board with this unity?
I know the leadership is, but will they all vote against the repub plan (whatever it turns out to be!) ? That would be the best scenario. But then it's like herding cats...
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:17 PM
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12. As of today
42 of 44 have signed a letter to * stating that they are willing to work with the Admin to fix the problems with Social SEcurity AS LONG AS private accounts are not included in the package.

Yup, even Joe Leiberman. (Conrad and Nelson, I think, are the holdouts.)

42 + Jeffords = filibuster.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:24 PM
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16. good!
:toast:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:06 PM
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9. Lautenberg had some nice words for JK
He said we were grieving over the loss--how true! And as the news gets worse, more and more will be sorry His Fraudulency is still in the WH. He's a madman and he's drunk with power. We know he'll fall, but the question is, how many will he hurt on the way down. :(
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:13 PM
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11. Lautenberg and the older gent
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 11:15 PM by TayTay
were great. Sen. Clinton was right, they should take that show on the road. LOL!

I was very happy to see this tonight. (Ah, Kerry got a great intro with the 'No need for an introduction' line. Rock Star!) I loved Sens. Durgin and Durbin. I thought Sens. Clinton and Schumer also spoke very well. Everyone seemed so happy to be speaking FOR something that they believed in fully and it showed. There was some enthusiasm in that room, not just another "We are all doomed under this idiot * " that has been the feeling in so many things Dems have had to do recently. It's nice to see the change of mood. It's energizing and gives people something to root for.

I loved Kerry's remarks. His speaking style continues to improve. He spoke succinctly, made cogent points that were well-spoken and heartfelt and he translated some complex concepts into clear speech. (I thought anyway.) Good job! (And good job to Sen. Durgin who excels at this.)

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: for all the Sens.:loveya:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:17 PM
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13. Did he have a cold?
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 11:18 PM by politicasista
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:23 PM
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15. I think so!
Edited on Fri Mar-04-05 11:32 PM by TayTay
Somebody with a deep voice was coughing during the show. Could have been him or one of the other Sens. up on the platform. (Ahm, who else has a 'basso profundo' voice?)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:27 PM
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17. I think it was someone else
Either Reid or Durbin (Reid sounded a little raspy when he spoke).

Someone was coughing, and then they cut to a different camera and it was not JK, who was sitting in rapt attention very quietly.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 07:05 AM
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25. yeah, it was Harry Reid coughing
but he still did a great job.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:36 PM
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18. Dick Durbin and ?
Cspan didn't list all of the names, but it was Dick Durbin and Byron Dorgan, right? and Lautenberg, Kerry, Reid, Schumer, Clinton. Maybe you meant Dorgan when you wrote Durgin.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:43 PM
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21. Indeed I did!
Curses, foiled again. Alas, spelling in not my forte. (ten lashes with a wet noodle for me. If WEL was hanging out here, she would think of something better, but she is otherwise occupied.)
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 07:06 AM
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26. i loved the "you take drugs" ? comment
it was really funny, even Kerry couldn't stop laughing.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:38 PM
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19. Lautenberg is great
I think he sometimes will say things others are thinking, but not saying. He was a really good Senator before he retired. But he's been incredible since he came back. Of all the Jersey Senators I've voted for he's my favorite.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-04-05 11:55 PM
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22. there must be an interesting story there
Why did he leave and then come back? He's pretty old now, too, so? Of course Byrd is still going strong!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-05-05 12:40 AM
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24. Lautenberg replaced Toricelli
who was plagued by scandals a few months before the election. the NJ courts ruled that if the Democratic line was empty (by resignation) it could be filled. Lautenberg had retired but came back to save the seat and appears to be having a good time.
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