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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:19 PM
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Off topic ! have to vent! I cannot take the DLCers anymore.
Now Ed Rendell has endorsed an anti-choice Dem,Casey, to run against Santorum in Penn. This follows Richardson Blocking a recount in NM. Doubtless we will have DLCer's supporting Repukes in the Shiavo case. And Lieberman supporting Bush every time he turns around! If anyone had any doubts where the DLC would like us to head, I think this should make it obvious. They are NOT moderates. They are Republicans!
Thank God for John Kerry and his little band of "real Democrats".
The DLC philosophy MUST be erased. They are attempting to destroy us from within!
We need to unite to support positive energy . We need to support those brave Dems who are having to fight not only the Repukes outside but the Al From agenda inside our own party! I am so inspired by Kerry as he keeps up this fight, realizing that he hasn't allowed the election debacle or the infighting in his own party to stop him. He just keeps rolling along. It absolutely disgusts me how his own keep putting up obstacles! But I believe, with help from us, he will prevail.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:42 PM
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1. I agree with you sweetie!
Did you read what Brownstein said about Kerry in his article today?

Kerry made it clear Thursday that he would escalate his efforts to sharpen the Democratic message and build grass-roots support for the party's House and Senate candidates in 2006. He plans to pursue these goals through a political action committee and a new nonprofit advocacy group.

David Wade, a Kerry spokesman, said the nonprofit organization would attempt to "help Democrats reframe and take on issues," while the political action committee, called Keeping America's Promise, would focus on political organizing.

Kerry said the organizing effort would pattern itself after the 2004 Bush campaign.

"We had ... millions of people traveling and ... working and doing things," Kerry said of his campaign. "What we didn't have was enough local people in some places who were engaged in that effort. And you don't begin 4 1/2 , five months out. You begin now."


If Kerry is a force that helps to make this happen, then it spells the doom of the DLCers. The grassroots of the party are not in the DLC and their appeasement of Rethugs. I can understand the argument of Clinton to make abortion 'safe, legal and rare.' But we cannot sell out the core beliefs of our party.

Kerry stood up for regular Americans and for working people in his votes so far this year. The DLCers have not. I would work for the guy who reflects my beliefs. I might just sit on my hands for these wannabee Democrats.
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pauliedee Donating Member (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:32 PM
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17. Kerry still in Bush's face / fighting hard for us
Kerry still in Bush's face / fighting hard for us....

Not diluting democratic message like the sellout Hillary :boring:

He's the real deal :kick:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:44 PM
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2. Isnt Casey the only dem running against Santorum
I hate the new democratic philosophy too btw.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:48 PM
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3. He wasn't . They had a prochoice woman who was popular as well as
some others!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 03:56 PM
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4. Damn, wtf
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:19 PM
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5. Here: Barabara Hafer was the Pro-choice woman
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 04:20 PM by saracat

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05064/466812.stm

With the early support of the state's Democratic leadership, Treasurer Bob Casey Jr. announced yesterday that he will seek the U.S. Senate seat held by Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa.

The move prefaces what is expected to be one of the most expensive and closely watched Senate races in the nation next year.

Shortly after Casey issued a widely anticipated statement declaring that he would pursue the 2006 race, Gov. Ed Rendell publicly endorsed his candidacy.

Chuck Pennacchio, a Philadelphia college professor, said yesterday that he would seek the nomination. And with more than a year to go before the filing deadline in the race, there is plenty of time for other candidates to emerge, although Rendell and Rep. T.J. Rooney, the state party chairman, can be expected to try to quash any such effort. More liberal Democrats on social issues, including activists strongly in favor of abortion rights, pose the clearest potential source of intraparty opposition for Casey.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:23 PM
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6. And doesn't this comment show how "trivial" he thinks the issue of
pro=choice is ?

Casey expressed confidence that issues which he sees as most important in this race would trump Democratic differences.

"No matter where a voter stands on the issue of abortion, both pro-life and pro-choice are concerned about Social Security, about health care," he said
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:30 PM
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7. Yes but I do trust that Casey will be good on economics
I don't expect him to be like a Salazar or Landrieu.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:40 PM
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8. I would vote for a pro choice Republican first. If he isn't pro choice,
I don't give a F***k what he thinks economically!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 04:47 PM
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9. I have a difference of belief with you there but
my opinion is that we should strive for pro choice candidates. Pennsylvania is a really weird state politically, you have many democrats who are conservative socially but economic liberals and many well mostly in the philly area, republicans who are social liberals but fiscal cons. I would have prefered a pro choice candidate overwhelmingly to tell you the truth and I hope that he does change his mind.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 07:05 PM
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11. Honestly, I probably wouldn't vote for the Repuke, but I wouldn't
vote for the anti-choicer either. I guess I wouldn't vote!What a horrible position to be in. Having No one to represent you. That is really not having a "choice" !
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 08:38 PM
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12. I cant blame you for feeling how you do
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:25 PM
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13. Thank you John . You are so patient with my rant.
You have no idea how exceptional you are, even here on DU. Just recently many men, I was just debating one , have come out against choice! It just amazes me how quick some are to give up Civil Rights that are not their own! It is almost as bad as saying, "Hey! Lets give the Klu Kluxers a chance.After all , they support Social Security!"
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 09:47 PM
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14. Sure I do disagree with you but I totally understand
Edited on Fri Mar-18-05 09:48 PM by JohnKleeb
but I think pro choice candidates are generally for the better and I had no idea Hafer was running for that seat, she would have made a good candidate IMO, I think she would have done very well in the Philly area, better than Casey will, maybe not as good as he in the Pitt area though.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-19-05 02:13 PM
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15. Chuck Pennacchio
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-18-05 05:56 PM
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10. I agree too.
I still can't forgive Richardson for not standing up for the recount, and don't know if I ever will.

As for Santorum's seat - bleah. I just don't get it. They could do SO much better. Against Santorum?? Please. They must be dying to get rid of him. The state is blue, and the man's an embarrassment.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 01:47 AM
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16. but some here on DU think Kerry is a DLC "lackey"
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