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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:05 PM
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I'm a two-timer!
Thank God Dean is not running, or I'd be a three timer!
Well, I hear Kucinich might run in '08. WTF do I do? I sat '04 primaries out because it was the last semester of college and I really did not pay any attention to it. I supported Dean, but I didn't know crap about any of the other candidates. Kucinich? I didn't know who the fuck he was. Someone gave me thing that looked like a baseball card during a peace rally on Sept. 11 2003.
"Are ya gonna vote for Dennis Kucinich?" the guy asked proferring the thing.
Before I could say anything he handed it over and went along. I think I got rid of the thing cos I thought the Kooch was a Green. A lot of Green Party people were out there.
Anyway, I am on the DK board now expressing some interest in DK '08. He is a wonderful, peaceful man and I am glad he's a Dem. Thing is the DK board is bashy toward Kerry.
I would still do for the Kerry campaign. Two faces have I!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:08 PM
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1. It's a long way away
Stick around and see what develops. In the mean time, revel in the riches of having two candidates that you really like. It's nice to have an embarrasment of riches once in a while.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:16 PM
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2. Yes, but the DK board says this is the time to start
the DK campaign...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:20 PM
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3. Unfortunately, DK doesn't have a bats chance in hell.
I like his ideas but he is , unfortunately, a lousey candidate. But it is good to get his ideas out there.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:36 PM
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4. I think the left should organize
I think they should have a strong voice and Dennis is able to keep lefty ideas from going totally over into socialist anarchy. I have a couple of bones I'd like to pick with him, but for the most part he's not a pile of hot air like Ralph Nader. If he could talk about health care, education, and peaceful co-existence, it would actually help the Democratic Party. People could see the distinctions between left, Dem & right wing wacko. I think we might actually pull the country back left a bit with a stronger Kucinich based organization.

But I agree with Saracat, he can't win, too socialist for this country.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:58 PM
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6. He's a socialist? Well, they called Dean and Kerry
socialists too, but they are all Dems...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 01:05 AM
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7. Didn't say that
First I said that he is able to keep left ideas from going totally over into socialist anarchy, complete socialism.

But that he is too socialist for this country, many of his ideas are. Single payer is socialized medicine. Guaranteed jobs is socialism. Completely free education. When you put all his ideas together, you would end up with a country that's more socialist leaning than capitalist leaning. This country is not going to go for any of that in the near future.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:06 PM
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9. Yeah I understood thats what your point was
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:36 PM
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10. Gotcha. I understand.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-05 10:38 PM
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5. Sigh thats most unfortunate that they bash him
since I am in many ways responsible for it, I hate to sound cocky but I am the one who got those who wanted it up and they have it. We don't bash Kucinich here in fact I am pleased to know that many of you respect my original candidate. I don't think he'll run in 2008 though really, and besides I think he needs to run for state wide office out there to tell you the truth. I dunno, its cool if he runs but he won't have a chance sadly.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 09:11 AM
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8. I may be a two (or three) timer as well
Although I've always voted for Kerry for his Senate seat, I was originally a Dean supporter in the 2004 campaign. I was never a real Deaniac, because I had a feeling all along that his campaign would implode. But I found his fire, his clear anti-war position, and his way of getting straight to the heart of an issue very inspiring. Once it became clear that the Dean campaign was falling apart, I started researching the other candidates still in the running.

Because I'm from MA, I was most familiar with JK. And the more I read about him, the more I really admired him. I also liked what I heard from John Edwards, but I was concerned about lack of experience on his part. So I threw my energy and support behind JK. And I was pleased as punch when he became the de-facto nominee. I started participating in JK's official online forum, made my first-ever political contributions to his campaign, and even signed up to volunteer (another first) for his campaign. Because I was also impressed with John Edwards, I was happy when JK chose him as his running mate. I thought they made a superb team.

I'm pretty certain that Dean won't be running for president in 2008. He'll be plenty busy running the DNC, and helping engineer Dem victories from there. I think that John Edwards will run, and that will pull on my loyalties a bit. But I think I would probably stay with JK, if he and Edwards compete for the same nomination.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 02:54 PM
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11. I support all Democrats.
till primary season.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:37 PM
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12. Good policy.
On DK, I just don't take seriously anyone in the House running directly for President. I think it is too big a leap.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:47 PM
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13. He just needs to get elected to a bigger statewide office
then it'll make sense.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-05 03:51 PM
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14. Do you think he could get elected to state-wide office in Ohio?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:10 PM
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16. If he gets good support yes
If he really wants to seek higher office one day or be well known nationally, being governor or senator of a key state will do that.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:01 PM
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15. Right on!
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Corey_Baker08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:46 AM
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17. Kucinich Should run for Governor of Ohio
Against our good friend Ken Blackwell-Kucinich would kick his ass.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:52 AM
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18. YES!
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Corey_Baker08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 02:01 AM
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19. Maybe we can talk him into it
I think the Election is in 06 and 1 unofficial canidate we have his Columbus Mayor Mike Coleman, I am going to see Democratic Candidate for Ohio Sec. of State next Thursday so I'll tell ya if he has a shot of being the next sec. of state.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 02:06 AM
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20. Well, maybe not '06, but soon.
It would be great to have him as OH gov.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 02:49 PM
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22. '06 is when the Ohio governor seat is open
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Siyahamba Donating Member (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 12:01 PM
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21. I, too, have been exploring options
I was interested in Dennis Kucinich, but when I talked to another supporter she seemed harsh and said I had to start work, RIGHT NOW, on his campaign or else he wouldn't have a chance.

I tend to agree with Kucinich's platform more than John Kerry's, but Kerry seems to have had a longer commitment to his values - for example, Kucinich thinks that equal marriage should be a constitutional right, but he voted for the Defense of Marriage Act.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 03:07 PM
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23. they dont even know if he's offiically running
Kucinich wasnt in congress when DOMA was enacted though but Kerry has been the longer supporter of GLBT rights, which isnt a diss of Kucinich, its just Kerry I found doing some congressional research the other day introduced a bill as early as first congressional session to ban discrimination based on sexuality, I believe Alan Cranston cosponsored it, now of cousre it didnt get anywhere because of Reagan and the more conservative dems at the time.
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