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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-05 10:18 PM
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A Kerry Dream I had last night
In the dream I went to a school special, (you know when the teachers take you out of class and you go to the gym with all the other kids to see some speaker who dresses up like Lincoln or talks about lizards? We used to have a lot of those in Elementary schools). Anyway, we all were assembled around an open pool. John Kerry comes out addresses us (we are elementary age kids, no teachers) and tells us he successfully sued the Swift Boat Liars. I'm thinking good, but you got to talk about other things or they'll all think you're full of yourself (thinking of freepers). Then he starts writing on a projector and it's projected on some surface on the other wall. For personal reasons I'm amazed although I can't remember what he says.
Anyone know what that means?
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 12:19 AM
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1. well,
JK is an authority figure for you (he's like a teacher in the dream), and has some secret power or knowledge which amazes you--I'd guess that you believe he's got the power to come back strong in the next election? The swift boat liars thing is also a clue to that--he's got the power to defeat his(and our) enemies. How's that?

I, on the other hand dreamed a few months ago that he was visiting France as president, being greeted with cheers and love by the French people. He was smiling and shaking hands with the crowd. The people were shouting, "Mr. President!" He was wearing the raincoat he wore to the Clinton Library opening. What a great and vivid dream--and not hard to analyze. One thing I feel really sensitive about is how America has fallen into a bad reputation around the world, and I did visit France last summer. One thing I had hoped so much for is that our country would again be an ally in good standing with the international community.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 12:28 AM
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2. Thanks! A wonderful dream that you had there!
Yeah Kerry is a lot like one of my college professors Dr. Berry (it even rhymes) a Roman Catholic Bioethicist. Whenever Kerry talks about abortion it seems like he is channeling Berry...

Actually, I was amazed by the projection in my dream becuase it reaffirmed some theological point. If you are interested in that point, I'll PM you, but I can't put it here cos some out there will think I'm a loopy...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:22 AM
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4. ok sure, I'd be interested n/t
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:42 AM
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6. I PMed you.
Please don't laugh or make fun of me. I really believe in this...
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 08:26 AM
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7. I had a dream I went to the Red Sox game with him once
We sat, drank beers and he helped me with the scorecard. (I always have the messiest scorecard after a game. Sigh!) Nothing to write home about, but it was pleasant. I don't think it has any greater meaning, just that I was free associating images from when my worlds had collided last year. (Plus I genuinely felt bad for the Kerry people. They had to work when the Sox did their thing last year and they missed soaking it all up back home. I just felt bad for them. The season of a lifetime and ya gotta work. Sigh!)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 12:45 AM
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8. That would be fun. Kerry at a Red Sox game.
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europegirl4jfk Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 12:44 AM
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3. What a sweet dream, ginny!
I would have loved to welcome him here in France! When GWB came to Europe in February, I couldn't stop thinking how different it would have been with John Kerry coming instead. He would have talked to Chirac in French and told Schröder about his childhood years in Berlin, and of course, the European people would have loved him.

And I can't tell you how amazed I was when I watched the talk at the JFK Library and heard Kerry talking about visiting with Schröder, Chirac and Blair on his way back from the Middle East in January. I was very happy that he was the first coming to Europe, even before GWB could send Rice to prepare his own visit.

I talk to a lot of people over here and they don't really have resentments against the American people. It's just the Bush Administration they hate! I'm convinced that this is not the end of the good relationship between the USA and Europe.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 01:36 AM
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5. I'm glad to hear it
The French people we talked with last summer seemed only to be against Bush, not us. One,smiling, wished us good luck in the election for getting a new president. Ah, those were the days of such high hopes! I just hope Europeans realize that we are not all so stupid as to vote for Bush! It is just so embarrassing!

I'm also glad Kerry got to Europe first. Such a contrast to Bush. I read that he and Chirac did not need to use an interpreter: Kerry spoke in English, and Chirac replied in French, and they did fine. Kerry said his French was too "rusty" to speak it after so many years. But it was still cool that he could understand Chirac without help. If you have been learning about Kerry for a while, you will know about all the family connections he has to France. :)


Are you a French citizen? Do you live in Paris or elsewhere? My eldest daughter is in Paris right now working a three-month translating job. She's due back next week. She also was in Paris all last summer doing the same--hence our visit in August.

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europegirl4jfk Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:33 AM
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9. Kerry and France
Ginny, thanks for sharing this nice story about Kerry and Chirac speaking to each other without interpreter. I know that Chirac speaks English and studied in the US for a while when he was young. I wasn't a big fan of him when he first became president, because his party is from the right (not as right as the Republicans, I'm sure). But I was very proud of Chirac when he stood up to GWB during and after the Iraq war.

And Kerry's French is actually really good. I heard him speak French on TV during the campaign, once or twice. OK, it was only a few sentences, but it was correct and his accent is fine. I just read the Boston Globe book about Kerry and learned that his mother has spent her whole childhood in France and that they still have a house over here.

I was born in Germany, but I live in France since almost 20 years. Not in Paris, but in the south, near the Mediterranean and about 60 miles from the Spanish border. I came here to study French history at Montpellier university and stayed ever since that time. My daughter (her dad in French) is at school in the USA right now, but she has the intention to go to college in Paris once she'll be back in France.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 12:14 PM
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10. I believe his French is good, too--
and that he was just being a perfectionist about it. :) Yeah, I'd take Chirac any day over the Chimp. It's the same thing with the Canadians: the ones on their Right are similar to our Left in their liberalism. If we had a Democratic leadership, we'd be much more in step with the rest of the developed world.

We were in Toulouse, Avignon and Arles last summer as we did a self-styled circle tour of France, mostly by train. We went to the Normandy beaches in the Northwest, and to Colmar and Strasbourg in the Northeast. We included a few days in Switzerland as well. And we took a wild bus ride over the mountains into Andorra for a day! But more than half of our two and a half weeks was spent in Paris. :)
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