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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 07:36 AM
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More * Lies: Medicare, The Feds & the States
More instances of the Federal Government, under * the Deceiver, lying to the states and leving the poorest and most vulnerable citizens without aid and the States under onerous mandate burdens.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/25/politics/25drug.html?pagewanted=print&position=


March 25, 2005
Cost-Cutting Medicare Law Is a Money Loser for States
By ROBERT PEAR

ASHINGTON, March 24 - In passing the new Medicare law, Congress intended to relieve states of prescription drug costs for low-income elderly people. But as states do the arithmetic, many find that they will lose money, because they will have to give back most of the savings to the federal government.

The law opened a new chapter in federal-state relations, requiring the states to pay billions of dollars a year to the federal government for a Medicare benefit over which they have no control.

"This is a sea change in the state-federal relationship," said Trudi L. Matthews, chief health policy analyst at the Council of State Governments, a nonpartisan group that has been tracking trends in federalism for 70 years. "Money generally flows down from Washington to the states, but in this case it's flowing upward, from the states to the federal government."


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 04:38 AM
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1. My Dumb Dems
I figured this was why some of the Dems in my state voted for this. Oregon has a different state health plan and we were having alot of problems covering prescription drugs for the adult disabled and elderly. I'm going to have to check and see what is happening in Oregon, this could get very ugly here. Oregonians tends to like our health care plan and most people are pretty upset at the cuts we've had to make already. If our Congress Critters fucked up and voted for something that's going to cause even more cuts, whoa boy.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 07:40 PM
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2. That's why Smith (R-OR) sponsored that amendment
AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To create a reserve fund for the establishment of a Bipartisan Medicaid Commission to consider and recommend appropriate reforms to the Medicaid program, and to strike Medicaid cuts to protect states and vulnerable populations. {This put $14 Billion back, against the wishes of the Bushies and their flunkies in the Senate.}

3/17/2005:
Amendment SA 204 agreed to in Senate by Yea-Nay Vote. 52 - 48. Record Vote Number: 58.

These folks co-sponsored.

Sen Bingaman, Jeff - 3/16/2005
Sen Coleman, Norm - 3/16/2005
Sen Baucus, Max - 3/16/2005
Sen DeWine, Mike - 3/16/2005
Sen Snowe, Olympia J. - 3/16/2005
Sen Chafee, Lincoln - 3/16/2005
Sen Corzine, Jon S. - 3/17/2005
Sen Rockefeller, John D., IV - 3/17/2005
Sen Murray, Patty - 3/17/2005
Sen Kerry, John F. - 3/17/2005
Sen Jeffords, James M. - 3/17/2005
Sen Lincoln, Blanche L. - 3/17/2005
Sen Clinton, Hillary Rodham - 3/17/2005
Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. - 3/17/2005
Sen Schumer, Charles E. - 3/17/2005
Sen Cantwell, Maria - 3/17/2005
Sen Akaka, Daniel K. - 3/17/2005
Sen Lieberman, Joseph I. - 3/17/2005
Sen Feinstein, Dianne - 3/17/2005
Sen Obama, Barack - 3/17/2005
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. - 3/17/2005
Sen Harkin, Tom - 3/17/2005
Sen Stabenow, Debbie - 3/17/2005
Sen Nelson, Bill - 3/17/2005
Sen Kohl, Herb - 3/17/2005
Sen Reed, Jack - 3/17/2005
Sen Johnson, Tim - 3/17/2005
Sen Mikulski, Barbara A. - 3/17/2005
Sen Landrieu, Mary L. - 3/17/2005
Sen Levin, Carl - 3/17/2005
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-26-05 08:50 PM
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3. Yes I know
It's no accident that Smith was the Republican who sponsored that. He has to have something to convince people here he's a moderate. But he's also the one that goes to food banks and says people aren't really hungry and maybe food banks are enabling people to not be responsible for themselves.
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