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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 05:53 PM
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He speaks out, yet people still bash him
Edited on Thu May-19-05 06:00 PM by politicasista
I don't know if I should post the link. The responses are not bad, but it starts with "Dear, Mr. Kerry."
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 06:54 PM
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1. Oh Lord. He 'kills' on the floor and they still diss him?
Bite me. They can just bite me. Honestly, some people are just so damn thick-headed that I really think they have mental problems and should seek help.

Senator Kerry killed today. His speech rocked the joint. He even got some love from the DKos folks who swooned over him. The beginning of every thread about the Nukular Opshun after #3 has a specific reference to go back and read the comments during Sen. Kerry's speech. Yeah, it was 'a moment' even for the DKos folks.

Wow! I just love him when he's all angry and brainy and focused and passionate. Sigh! :evilgrin: He was so awesome.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:23 PM
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10. Please linkage to that video! He looks great!
:)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:10 PM
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14. Nevermind I saw it! Excellent!
:toast: :hug:
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:43 PM
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2. Let's face it
John will never be able to do anything right in their eyes. Because he lost (or whatever the hell happened to prevent him from being in the White House right now), people are angry, and they're going to continue to direct their anger at him, no matter what he does. I don't think Kerry lost because of any bad choices on his own part, but because Bush was willing to stoop to a certain level (i.e., dishonesty) to gain votes. Peole doen't want to realize that it was Bush, in fact, who had the upper hand - simply by his being devious. I just think a lot of people find it easier to blame Kerry, which is really sad because I think Kerry is a stand-up guy who ran an honest campaign.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 07:58 PM
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3. No one, in history, has ever been a unanimous choice
Edited on Thu May-19-05 08:05 PM by TayTay
The trick right now is to stay viable. That doesn't mean that you win every popularity contest or poll in existence. Last year was a very tough race and it had a disappointing ending. Democrats are still in recovery from that. That's okay, we are in the interregnum (def: a period when a country or organization lacks a leader.) This is also a healing time and part of healing, at least for some people, means venting the poison from their systems. Sigh! This is an ugly but necessary thing. Have faith, it will get better.

In the mean time, chew on this. The Senate floor speeches from the Democrats had a unity of theme and purpose. (Honest they did! I am not on hallucinatory drugs.) The Democrats stated that:

The Filibuster fight was about an abuse of power by the majority and a blatant disregard of minority rights

The Rethugs have a poor grasp of history and the Constitutionally mandated separation of powers and the system of checks and balances that our Forefathers were wise enough to build into the Constitution.

This business of filibusters and judges is wasting the Senate's time. That time belongs to the We The People and would be better spent on issues like health care, shoring up social security and making sure that the American Dream doesn't become a nightmare

That the real fight that ought to be occurring is about the people, not the process.

This is a wonderful thing. The Democrats are uniting and starting to sing off the same hymnal. (Don't you guys see this?) Senator Kerry has spoken out about 'felt needs' in his speeches after the election and how those needs are not going away, they are being dismissed as unworthy by an unfeeling and unresponsive Rethuglican power structure. But the Democrats have noticed and ALL their speeches are mentioning this. (Tell me you noticed this. Please.) Every single Democratic Senator had this as a theme. Attack the misuse of power. Mourn the fact that we are wasting valuable time on things that are not The People's Business. State the need to stand and fight.

This is an amazing moment. The Dems are getting it together people. Honest!

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." Winston Churchill

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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:37 PM
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5. I love your optimism.
I can't say I've noticed particularly, because I have hardly heard any of the dem speeches. But Kerry's speech was fantastic.

I was listening to the radio on the way to Costco this afternoon (buy blue) and there was a call from someone who was raving about Kerry's speech, how kickass it was, and how "he called the repugs out, he really did." I was sittling there cheering. And then he had to finish up with the requisite, "If only he'd shown that much blah blah blah during the campaign..."

I thought about this all afternoon. And I think TayTay is exactly right. If we go around expecting everyone to see JK the same way we see him we're doomed to anger and disappointment.

Let's not do that. It will only burn us out, and he needs us positive and working hard. We are his army - we need to take our cue from him. Ous anger should be focussed on the enemy, and we know exactly who the enemy is. Don't waste energy on whiners or snipers or lefty purists.

Eyes. On. The. Prize.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:42 PM
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6. Excellent posts ladies
I have just learned to take JI7's advice and pass it on to WildEyedLiberal. It's tempting, but it's best to just ignore these fools. Arguing with them only plays right into their hands. All they want is attention anyway.

Love you guys optimism. :yourock: :loveya: :hi:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:45 PM
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7. Exactly so!
I really like Kerry (duh!) Part of the reason I really like him is because he has proven that he can handle himself. He is intellectually and morally capable. He can handle this stuff. Again, that's what faith means. I trust the guy to do the right thing. He has earned that trust from me.

Whome is right: Eyes on the prize. The prize is not lefty-freeper approval. (That will never come or will be fleeting at best.) The prize, right now, is defend the Constitution in this fight. Then defend the best interests of We The People. That's what he does best. That's what I believe in. I just do. Apparently I have the bottomless font of hope and faith. He has earned it from me.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:55 PM
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8. I love that.
Yes, he's earned it from me, too. I would march into battle with him because I have so much faith in his integrity. He's not infallible, but he never goes for the easy out. Ever. All that sh*t that's said about him on the left and the right is exactly 180 degrees wrong. He's brave, he's decisive, and he is brilliant. He's just what this country needs.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:05 PM
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13. I'm in total agreement! Kerry Supporter here & always will be.
I've said it before and we'll continue to: "If I could choice again tomorrow whom to vote for, it would be KERRY hands-down."

Every time I see him I can't help but thing the same thing: There is the real President. Dignified. Intelligent. United, not Divider. Peace-Maker. Resolver. Diplomat. No-Nonsense Get-the-Job-Done for all Americans.

And when you think of the debates. He and Edwards were fan-tas-tic! And the lies he had to deal with from the Swifties, and big corporation.

He was the best thing going for this country. Now... shudder that thought.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:58 PM
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15. Welcome!!
Glad you came by. :-)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 10:04 PM
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12. I've have noticed!
The Dems are unusually unified in their themes. They each talk about what they could be doing in the Senate that would be serving their constituents and the American people as a whole. They all refer back to examples from history. It's great.

As for those naysayers, they still do have to heal; they've got to get a grip and realize that being endlessly angry gets us nowhere at all. It's what we do next that counts. It's the next steps we take that will make a difference, not spinning through endless angst about what might have been, and trying to pin the blame on someone who isn't to blame. It's like blaming a rape victim rather than the perpetrator. It's sick and twisted and wrong.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 08:23 PM
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4. I agree.
:hi:
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:06 PM
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9. Seriously?
I knew this would happen when I was watching the speech. They can fuck off and (omitted word)
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-19-05 09:42 PM
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11. I know
Some people will never, and I repeat never be satisfied with anyone other than their own candidate X.

I have come to accept that, although I get pissed off, too.

:hi:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-20-05 12:46 AM
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16. HAHAHAHHAH
Edited on Fri May-20-05 12:49 AM by JI7
i just found that thread and saw they locked it and moved it to the nut case conspiracy theory 9/11 forum.

i saw in that letter that he blamed Bush for attacking us on 9/11 and his problem is Kerry wont go after him for it.

these are the type who we don't want on our side anyways and they just make it tougher for us to go after BUsh on real issues. because Republicans just bring up these nutcase theories to show people that those going after Bush are a bunch of crazies.
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