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some fool posted some shit complaining about Hillary and Kerry based on a poll on DU and using it to claim it represented Democrats. when in reality most of them complaining about Kerry are Buchanan types .

since when do the views of Pat Buchanan belong in the Democratic Party ? no wonder they hate Kerry. how can you expect those who support someone like Buchanan to like Kerry.

There is a thread in GD called, "Where is PResident KErry?" Now that sounds like it might be a nice thread, contrasting a sane leader with a sniveling idiot, but oh no? It turned into a bash Kerry thread, complete with a Skull and Bones reference. (Cuz no bash is reduced to utter idiocy without a S&B reference.) I posted the following for all my buddies in this here forum:
Question: Why did Kerry only send this out via electronic means? He should hae done more. I replied that he also sent this out as a Press Release. I got back the silly snark that that wasn't good enough and why would Kerry do this?

that the good people of the Senator's home state can read about it in the paper tomorrow and see it on TV and maybe be moved to donate so they can help to alleviate some human suffering.

Just a thought. Or maybe he could don his Superman outfit and fly around the country and use his incredible Skull and Bones powers to repair the levee, cause manna to fall from heaven and fresh water springs to sprout from the earth and, oh yeah, all electronic voting devices to suddenly malfunction and melt. Hey, he needs to pay attention here. We need those Massachusetts liberal superpowers now more than ever.

Sarcasm off.

I love you guys. and I got your back.

i saw that thread and the person who started it . that person bashed Kerry regularly throughout the campaign.

from what i see these people look for reasons to complain. they see something and start complaining why isn't "fill in blank". they are ignorant of what that person IS doing and don't even really care to find out. they are just looking to complain and bash.

As long as JK has on his Superman outfit, I'd like him to do that thing where Superman flies around the globe so fast that it turns back time and it is one year ago--and maybe this time the people will have a clue and vote * out, like they should have!! I can dream.

And if he did all this, the RW would still question why he didn't release his records and the LW would complain that he spent that ONE day windsurfing.

then it was a day windsurfing well spent.

the right wing would have embraced it and used it to claim he was tough.

just like when Kerry's bad grades came out. the right wing didn't start saying it showed Kerry was a regular guy as they say about Bush. they started calling Kerry an idiot, bad student etc.

the problem is too many on the Dem side (and i'm sure many are not true dems) just repeat the right wing talking points.

I was sold by a Dem here who does it. His freeper boss does it too, and he razzed said boss about that.

The thing about the grades, don't forget, covered up that the Smear vets had no leg to stand on. That's what really was in that report.

All that elitist crap is getting to me. They even wanted Brett Favre to shut up, as if the victims are supposed to be both poor and Democrat, or no one should give a damn about them.

The guy's mom and sister and his wife and kids all live down there. I couldn't believe it.

Dems, hell. I think often they're Green or farther left than that.

i think he is supposed to be some sports guy but i don't really pay attention so i could be wrong.

but what was their problem with him ?

is over-rated and makes too much money, so they don't care that he was on the television talking about his wife and mom and sister in Mississippi. They wanted to see "real" victims.

Someone else was moaning that they didn't want to give any money to Republicans in Louisiana, just the Dems.

It's all so wrong on so many levels.

Kerry signed the papers over to them so they could independently check - what the Navy said 35 years ago and what the former Secretary of the Navy (Senator Warner) verified saying he reviewed the records for Nixon - because people who lied about at least 100 other things claimed there was something bad hidden in them. Fourty year old grades aren't news but gossip and he has proved his intelligence many many times since then. (Also, didn't good grades and being a favorite of the teachers hurt him socially at St. Paul's, he was far more popular at Yale - maybe he was adapting to society. ;) )

I still can't believe they went after him because his wounds were minor. They sounded pretty painful to me - What other American soldier do they feel should have been wounded more? The idea that he had a nefarious plan to get wounded 3 times so he could go home and protest is ludicrous. (especially as he couldn't protest till he was out of the Navy)

They have had a bug up their arse about Kerry for years. They see him as someone who is not forthright and is hiding something. Since the Senator is obviously an extremely intelligent man, the Globe could simply not resist the urge to highlight something that contradicted that image. The Globe has always believed that Kerry is hiding something and is, in some way defined only by the Globe, a faker. (See the prostrate cancer story in Feb. 2003. This is a major American newspaper that gave a human being a really hard time because he wanted to inform his family he had cancer before he told the press. They reamed him on that.)

They did it because they could and because they felt a measure of schaudenfraude in doing so. It really is that simple.

some veterans' worst wounds are entirely emotional. People should never stand in judgement. PTSD can cause years and years of suffering, or literally be a killer. JK had nightmares for years--who knows, may still have them sometimes. This is often, but should not be overlooked when any veteran's wounds are considered.

Ha, we need an artist to draw it up!! Must have big hair and er, uhm, Vektor's "goods".

Excellent response, just excellent. :)

shares their narrow point of view. Buchanan has said Bush should be impeached for the Iraq War- thats all some people need to hear. I question why these one issue types are even posting at DU.

about liberal issues and ideals. i just saw a locked thread on Ron Paul. the person claiming Ron Paul is pro environment all based on one vote. someone posted that Paul has a 5 percent approval rating from the LCV.

these people don't look at the overall record of the people. they just pick out one thing and then use that to form black/white views of people.

security issue and look what has happened now.

misgivings about the war. I don't understand this. But I do think it is a step away from the blind acceptance of Bush. I really wonder whether the next step for them is to start to see (and believe) that this war was one of choice and one Bush lied us into. If that happens, I wonder whether the fact that they believed in him will make them hate him more than we do (if that's possible) - because he betrayed them more. (Love turned to hate meme)

They especially love to bash those in power, so politics attracts them. I wish they would just go on another blog and bash entertainment celebrities or something.

That's why Kerry was/is so fun for them to criticize: he has money and power. Dean seemed more like an underdog, so a lot of them rooted for him. It's all about who they can attack with clever insults.

I say save it for the natural target--the phony president--and leave the Dems alone! Constructive analysis, yes--pointless ignorant bashing, no!

The fact that Buchanan is an anti-semite of long standing means nothing to them. Evidently he wiped out all his past errors with that one comment.

Fuck these counterproductive assholes. I hate them so much.

I think I am more depressed this week than I was on November 3rd. Everything, everything is falling apart. :cry:

Same one who thinks 14 year olds should vote. He's bananas.

He doesn't even represent the progressives here. Last week, he tried to say Hussein was better for women's rights than the current government in Iraq. Oh sure, he didn't care if you were male or female before he killed you. Saddam Hussein, progressive hero :puke:

For the first time I really feel like this country is headed for a serious crisis. I've always rolled my eyes at the Chicken Little overdramatic sturm und drang at DU, but tonight, I really feel like this country is on a collision course with a big motherfucking iceberg, and our "captain" is too busy yukking it up with his buds to notice.

God, that analogy made me think of Whitman's poem "O Captain, My Captain." America has been so blessed to have great leaders in times of great crisis - Lincoln, FDR. Now look who we have. We need John more than ever.

maybe I give them too much credit.

"As events unfold, does Kerry regret conceding so quickly?"

TayTay had a nice answer. But I guess that Kerry is also responsible for the hurricane, the poor reaction the govt had, ...

Do these people really think that if Kerry hadn't conceded, the election results would've overturned themselves and he'd magically be in the White House? Idiots. If they have a smoking gun PROVING election fraud that can actually be used in a court of law, I sure wish they'd share it with the rest of us :eyes: