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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:25 PM
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Site for Va. results
http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

Precincts Reporting: 27 of 2426 (1.11%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,099 Total Voting: 16,281 Voter Turnout: 0.37 % Candidates Party Vote Totals Percentage J W Kilgore Republican 8,460 51.96% T M Kaine Democratic 7,423 45.59% H R Potts Jr Independent 381 2.34% Write Ins 17 0.10%
Vote Totals:
16,281
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:26 PM
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1. I would imagine the bluer precincts report later.
Don't you think?
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:30 PM
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2.  OK movin on up
T M Kaine Democratic 25,590 54.28% J W Kilgore Republican 20,230 42.91%
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:33 PM
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3. WTKR has Kaine leading 52% - 45% (or something like that)
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 07:33 PM by Island Blue
WAVY says just the opposite. AAAAAAhhhhhhhh! Very few precincts have reported though.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:36 PM
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5. almost 6%
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 07:38 PM by fedupinBushcountry
J W Kilgore Republican 64,387 49.58% T M Kaine Democratic 63,335 48.77%
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:38 PM
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7. arrgh
Precincts Reporting: 229 of 2426 (9.44%)
Registered Voters: 4,452,058 Total Voting: 273,428 Voter Turnout: 6.14 % Candidates Party Vote Totals Percentage J W Kilgore Republican 174,724 63.90% T M Kaine Democratic 95,086 34.78%
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:34 PM
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4. .
:D
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:36 PM
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6. Kilgore 49,58 Kaine 48.77 130 precincts reporting (52 votes diff.)
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 07:41 PM by Mass
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:45 PM
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8. Up and bown
I'm getting a headache.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:48 PM
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9. I think I'll wait a couple of hours and then check! n/t
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:52 PM
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10. Ok I'm getting confused
Kaine is down, but the Dems for Lt. Gov. and Atty. Gen. are up.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:55 PM
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11. A lot more precincts have been counted for gov than for Lt Gov or AG
Do you know if rural (Southern) precincts come in early or late?

It may be that they mainly counted Southern Virginia at this point? Do you know?

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 07:56 PM
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12. What a rollercoaster : Kaine 51 - Kilgore 46 - 27 % precincts.
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 07:57 PM by Mass
T M Kaine Democratic 274,553 51.19%
J W Kilgore Republican 250,031 46.61%
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:03 PM
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13. I checked our district, Fedup, and Virginia Beach has NOT been
reported yet. Or at least when I brought up VB, it was all 0s. Virginia Beach is the biggest city in Virginia and heavily Republican, so until it is reported, we shouldn't get our hopes up too high. Okay, now I'm really going to sign off, and take a break from all of this. This is worse than the most stressful sporting event!
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:04 PM
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14. It is
and the local television numbers are all over the place.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:27 PM
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17. Virginia Beach
and Roanoke still not counted.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:34 PM
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18. I saw in GD where there were some reports earlier
about there being some problems with the voting machines in Roanoke. People trying to vote for Kaine and voting for Kilgore instead. I don't know how substantiated these claims were.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:57 PM
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19.  Here are some results.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:04 PM
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21. I'm wondering
which is being counted first the punchcards or Diebold. his is driving me nuts.
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:24 PM
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15. This is tense!
Thanks for the link. I've got my fingers crossed!
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 08:25 PM
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16. This is tense!
Thanks for the link. I've got my fingers crossed!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:01 PM
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20. I got my fingers crossed for you
I feel like I'm sweating out the races in VA and NJ as if they were my own. Funny what the internet and some personal contact with voters in other states can do for you. (Close ones.)
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:08 PM
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22. They just called it for Kaine
:woohoo:
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:10 PM
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23. OMG, That's Wonderful!!!!
I'm so happy.
:party: :party: :party: :toast: :toast: :toast:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:10 PM
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24. Great - Happy for you.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:21 PM
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25. Yahoooo!
:bounce: :wow: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause: :patriot: I guess Slumpy's last minute campaign appearance for Kilgore didn't help out too much!!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:23 PM
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26. Virginia is for Lovers! Dem Lovers!
You guys rawk!

:patriot: :woohoo: :yourock: :dem:
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:57 PM
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37. Congratulations!
This deserves a :woohoo: or maybe :woohoo: :woohoo:

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:24 PM
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27. That's great - I was really impressed by Kaine during the debate
I started with a negative prejudice, but except for his relative anti-choice position (and even there it was really pro-life), he was standing up for democratic values. Probably not that easy to win like that in VA.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:46 PM
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28. But
our Dem running for Delegate loss. :cry: She got about 45% of the vote. I will also say that Hampton roads looks very purply, just like it did last year. It is still neck and neck in VB for Gov., but the Repubs are taking t. Gov. and Atty. Gen. But I have to say they did much better than I expected.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:20 AM
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43. I have to say I wasn't surprised, FedUp. I mean I'm a Democrat
and I didn't like Supriya's negative campaign. That's what Sal said in his victory speech -- that he had largely maintained a positive campaign. Well, now that he's our assemblyman, I'm going to follow what he does, and call and complain if he introduces or supports any kooky abortion laws. I think pro-choice people need to speak up (anybody read that abortion diary on dailykos, which was also on Frontline? I missed Frontline but I do feel like women's rights are going backwards in this country).

I have to say the one thing positive about Sal is he is for very tough laws against sex offenders. I think we need Dems who talk about this, too, because there is no cure for pedophilia, and they need to stay in jail. Why such a hard line from a liberal Dem like myself? Because when I checked the sex offender register list, I was horrified to learn that a pedophile lives right in my neighborhood. And I have two small children. (Luckily, there is an FBI agent living across the street from me, keeping an eye out, but he does have to go to work and isn't always around) So this is an important issue to me. Supriya didn't say anything about this in her campaign, and I think that was a huge mistake. We parents need reassurance on this. Reason 3,557 why I love JK -- he was a prosecutor and has no illusions about criminals.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:46 PM
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29. Question to people from VA
I am curious to know whether the take that "Kaine won is really a victory for Warner" is true.

A few people are saying that on GDP in order to promote him, but what is you take? Was he that instrumental in this win (other than by not having been a bad governor, I mean).
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 09:53 PM
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30. Well
I'm a transplanted Yankee. Warner came on the back of Gilmore who was horrible, and I think before that Allen. Warner was not the first Dem Gov., we also had Wilder, can't remember when he was elected I may have not been able to vote here yet since my husband was still in the military and we were still N.Y. residents.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:00 PM
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31. Corzine wins New Jersey
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 10:08 PM by fedupinBushcountry
should we start a thread Corzine for Pres. :sarcasm: For the loonies on DU.

Congrats Karynnj. :woohoo: :toast:
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:01 PM
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32. Great news too - Does anybody know what happened in OH?
Too early for CA

:party::party::party:
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:29 PM
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34. Yes, with Kaine for VP!!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:00 PM
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38. Apparently the Rove stuff backfired
Edited on Tue Nov-08-05 11:06 PM by karynnj
President? - uh, no - I think NJ is more tolerant than of few other areas of the country. Forrester may never ever again show his nasty face in an election. ( Oh, talking to one candidate at the county level - part of the reason that Kerry was late to the Morristown event was because he was in the restaurant there so he could eat. )

Our county candidates lost but narrowly - which is much better than normal.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 11:44 PM
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39. And is he anti-abortion and anti-gay rights??
Because that doesn't say much for a national Democratic candidate in 2008. I'm glad he won and all, but yikes, how do we spread a more liberal message with Democrats like these in such high places??

Is he good on the environment, universal health care, living wage, something like that???
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:03 AM
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41. I think that if Kaine had lost, this would have been a blow to
Warner's chances in '08, since he campaigned heavily for Kaine. Since the JK forum is a largely positive one, I just want to say that I really like Mark Warner, and thought he was a very good governor, and I wish him the best of luck in '08. He is adding color to the race with his "sensible center" mantra, and I think we should welcome him as another voice coming from Democrats.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:06 AM
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42. Any voice should be welcome - it is what primaries are for.
Edited on Wed Nov-09-05 08:07 AM by Mass
Congratulations - You have a Democratic governor - Now, I am getting jealous. One more year waiting for that.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:06 AM
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44. I agree. He seems to be a great guy!
He would be a welcome (and classy) addition to any Dem primary. (I do wish that he would consider running for George Allen's seat in the Senate though. I would do anything to get that guy out there. But Gov. Warner has indicated that he likes the executive role and that's that. Sigh!)
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:03 PM
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45. Ask Bill Weld how well it went going from gov. to senator
by running as a moderate for your party!! Allen has high approval ratings in this state (why, I do not know as the one time I called his office the staffer was very rude to me, after I was very nice to him). And Mark Warner ran against Sen. John Warner before and lost. Been there, done that, he doesn't want to do that again. Also, since Allen is a contender for '08, why should Warner have to face him in the lower Senate -- best to wait until the stakes are higher.

I agree that as far as Dems taking the Senate it would be very nice if we could pick up a seat and dash Allen's '08 hopes, but I completely understand why Mark Warner doesn't want to go through a Senate race again.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 11:10 PM
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53. Bill Weld had much much tougher competition (esp in the debates!)
Bayh went from Gov to Senator
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:25 PM
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33. Allen speaking
before Kilgore's concession speech. :puke:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:33 PM
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35. Those poor Rethugs.
First Kilgore loses and then they have to listen to Allen speak. My heart goes out to them. :sarcasm:

Congrats to all our VA and NJ friends here! This is great!
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-05 10:48 PM
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36. Kaine won Virginia Beach by 647 votes
Potts the other Repub dressed in Ind. clothing took 3,179 votes away from Kilgore.

Thank God its over, now my phone will stop ringing.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 12:37 AM
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40. Update on Va. Atty. General
The Dem Deeds just took the lead less than 1% left to count.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 04:48 PM
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46. Did anyone check out the Mark Warner thread on Kos?
It was on the front page, and Kos was fawning all over Warner for 2008 prospects (while dissing Kerry, Hillary and others). I had fun reading it because I realized a lot of this stuff is about new blood, old blood. People just like fresh faces, for which they know nothing about. I threw in a couple of comments with nice things to say about Warner, and then when somebody asked about the environment and Warner, I gave a little info adding my regrets that our LAST candidate had an impeccable environmental record, and what a loss he wasn't elected. I didn't say "Kerry". Maybe I'll check back later to see if that invites snark, indifference or a friendly answer back.

And the best was the discussion about gay marriage. Everyone was worried that Warner was against gay marriage. And you know how everyone defended him? They said, "well, he has the same position as Kerry's from last year". Ha! Funny.

Kos actually joined in (this is rare) and was defending how he had never dissed Warner before (someone accused him of that). But then someone said he had dissed Kerry. Kos's answer: well, yeah, and I will continue to diss Kerry in the future.

Look, guys, this is not about issues or voting records or even biography. People on the liberal blogosphere hate Kerry for one reason and one reason only. He lost. And they don't want to lose in '08, and they perceive that if he is the Dem nominee again, we'll lose again. I really think that's what it's about plain and simple.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:05 PM
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47. kos hate Kerry because of the primary - That is all.
He does not care at all about issues. I never understood on which basis he supports people. (I think at this point it comes to who he thinks Dean and Reid will support).
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 05:47 PM
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48. You are correct
Something else also happened during the primaries concerning kos. Remember when those Americans were burnt and hung in Iraq. ell Dkos ran a story and it wasn't very good. Well antway on the Kerryblog we had a link to Dkos, yep. After that story ran the campaign fecided that they would remove that link. Boy, did the Deaniacs come running and saying all kinds of stuff, just because of that decision. What Kos didn't take into mind is that the Kerry blog was that of a sitting Senator, and for him to link to a site that wrote stuff like that was not good.

I don't go to Dkos personally, I will go check out a story if someone puts a link, but that is about it. To me Kos has put himself on this pedestal and those that our easily lead eat it up. To me he is just another person behind a keyboard making his ego bigger.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:43 PM
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50. Yes, Kos's "Screw Them" moment (which right wingers bring up every time)
Here's the interesting thing. I watched a program about the mercenaries (working for Blackwater, et al), and the real military HATES them, so in a way, this may have less to do with Kos being a Deaniac (i.e. against the war), and more to do with the fact that army types (Kos used to be in the armed forces) looking at the private contractors with suspicion.

I think it was correct to take his site off the Kerry Blog. How can Kos whine about that when he was completely out of line with that statement? I mean, I don't like the private contract trend either, but I only have sympathy for their families, and can't imagine wanting your worst enemy die of such a heinous death. Obviously, Kos was okay with it.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 07:57 PM
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49. Amusing to see kos supporting a DLCer.
I remember that a few weeks ago, he had a secret plan to destroy the DLC.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 08:53 PM
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51. That was when it became obvious that at least on the Kos site
It's not about Lefty Freeperism (The Democrats aren't left wing enough for me). It's about personality. I like Warner's hair better. Bulls**t like that. There really are a lot of dummies on that site who are unbelievably clueless.

On a sidenote, there was this bizarre moment where an obviously gay poster put up a picture of Warner, talking about how hot he was. Then someone posted a photo collage of Dean when he was younger (and I have to say he looked good). This (I think gay poster) said Dean was the sexiest pol he'd ever met. I was thinking of calling the troops from here to post the sexiest JK pictures they had, but by then the thread was awfully big. But I have to say, I enjoyed reading the thread itself because it was largely positive. At this point I wouldn't mind hearing positive things said about any viable candidate in '08. I am so sick of the negativity.

Oh, back to DLC. Halfway down the thread, someone mentioned why Kos was saying nice things about someone who was in the DLC. Then someone said that Warner had had some issues with the DLC. Then someone else said -- oh, it's not if their name is associated with the DLC, it's the DLC's strategy of losing elections. I mean, I'm beginning to wonder how liberal the folks on dailykos are. What you can say about them is that they're against the Iraq War and mostly liberal on the social issues. But many of them strike me as quite DLC conservative on economic issues. Since many of the kids there are young, I can tell you that although Democratic, a lot of them have had undue influence on them from the Reagan years.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-05 09:38 PM
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52. I have not even tried to read the thread - it was too much for me
Of course, we have the classic excuse each time they want to support somebody from the DLC (he had problems: we heard it for Dean, for Edwards, ...). As Warner will no more be elected, he is going to disappear from the lists on the DLC website and we will hear he left the DLC. (any excuse is good).

I think that you are right many of them are young. A few were really liberal, but at some point, kos has thrown out some of the conspiracy theorists because he wanted his site to be "respectable" and other were bothered by the fact that he was supporting so strongly Casey and Langevin (RI). So it is possible that most of those who stay are more "insurgent" type than "progressive" types.
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