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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:03 AM
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Washington media at work - How to use Dodd's announcement
Edited on Fri May-26-06 02:07 AM by Mass
to diss Kerry and talk about the NYTimes article on Bill and Hillary

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000039&refer=columnist_carlson&sid=aSuO8ZE0zTl4


Connecticut's Dodd Is the Ideal Un-Hillary: Margaret Carlson

May 26 (Bloomberg) -- I caught up with Connecticut Senator Chris Dodd, who announced Monday that he's doing everything necessary to ``seek the presidency in 2008,'' early yesterday morning as he was convincing his 4-year-old, Grace, that she had to wash her hair.

I asked how you could run for president with two little children. ``There's never a good time but at this age, Jackie (his wife) and I can bring them along,'' he said. ``It's easier than with teenagers.''

...

While many in his party are straining to color themselves red, wishing to be reborn in a border state, Dodd's a traditional Democrat from way north of the Mason-Dixon line and happy about it. ``I'm a Sam Rayburn Democrat -- without prefix, suffix, or apology,'' Dodd said, recalling that former Senator Dale Bumpers forgave him for being a ``a northerner because he had a southern sense of humor.''

...

Many of Dodd's accomplishment are with ideological opposites. He joined with Senator Orrin Hatch to get child-care grants passed, with Senator Kit Bond on the Family and Medical Leave Act, with Senator Mitch McConnell on electoral reform after the Florida debacle. Coming from a big insurance state, it was easy for him to join Republicans in limiting class-action law suits.

On the Foreign Relations Committee, he's been an important player in Latin American affairs (he speaks fluent Spanish). And unlike Senator John Kerry, when asked if he would have voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq knowing what he knows now, Dodd gives a resounding ``no.''

...

Separate Lives

Hillary would likely sign on to that. Ironically, while her husband's unfaithfulness launched her Senate career, her presidential one would be doomed by a recurrence. A front-page story in Tuesday's New York Times was either Times-speak for ``Bill is up to his old tricks'' or a strategic attempt on the Clintons' part to get the issue out there early. Friends of the pair said all the right things to inoculate them against criticism that they live separate lives. Staff was at the ready with stats on time spent together, including the nugget that while they saw each other only once in February, it was Valentine's Day....


She writes exactly the same irrelevant info (when not simply false) that the NYTimes and the WaPo write about Democrats.

1. How can you run with young children: She cant call Jack Kennedy, but may be she can call John Edwards if she needs a clue. People do it all the time.

2: The Sam Rayburn joke is old.

3: Kerry has said a long time ago that he regrets his vote. (I guess this is the inside Washington media at work).

4: All Democrats have passed bills with Republicans. How is it something important?

In brief, there is nothing in this article who tells us why vote for Dodd rather than Hillary, but she reminds us the NYtimes article (how is it relevant here).
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 05:50 AM
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1. maybe she has a crush on him like she did with Fred Thompson
since i don't see any other reason for her writing this.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:09 AM
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2. Another Dem pundit
trashing other Dems. Never liked her and she goes along with Republicans all the time, including her old TV co-panelist Novak.

Also, if Dodd said that no so resoundingly why hasn't he came out in support of Kerry's Iraq plan.

Dodd is a catholic, now does she think that the repubs would not go after him like they did Kerry. Also looks like he has remarried , what will they construe from that.



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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 11:24 PM
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9. Are you sure about the remarraige thing?
I've been in Ct. for a long time and if I'm not mistaken, he was "the most eligible bachelor" for many many years. He married his present wife in his later years. She is much younger than him, thus the young ages of the children. I could be wrong tho! Might have missed something during the 20 yrs. we lived in the Berkshires.?? DC
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 06:54 AM
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3. What these pundits
don't seem to realize is by playing up the fallacy of a resounding "no" they're implying that this was a vote for war and a vote that would have changed Bush's course. Still, after a resounding no, what is Dodd doing to push for inquiry into Iraq war lies (didn't sign the DSM letter)? Is he for withdrawal (isn't advocating Kerry's plan). He voted for John Roberts, even Clinton voted against him.

Family and Medical Leave Act is a great thing, but it was also a no-brainer among many Democrats and was introduced in the House 2 weeks earlier with 170 co-sponsors (including Murtha, Pelosi and Congressman Charles Schumer). That bill became law. The Senate bill had 46 co-sponsors (including Kerry, Kennedy, Wellstone and other leading Democrats) the same day it was introduced.


These pundits want to berate Kerry, but his answer on the IWR is the one that makes the most sense. If people knew what they knew now, the vote wouldn't have even come up.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:22 AM
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4. I think on the IWR, she's playing the same amnesia game
that the entire press seems to be playing. Kerry has said the same thing for months and every single person in the press asks him the same question erevy time he's on. It's gone well beyond what could be just lack of coverage. (MTP has already asked him twice.)

I'm beginning to wonder who they do want. They seem to destroying every Democrat faster than DU itself would. Dodd is new, so she's vaguely fascinated with him. Dodd is on Imus every now and then, he seems an average Democrat - not super exciting, not embarrasing. He's not Kerry on the SFRC. He's been in the Senate longer than Kerry. Dodd's father was a Senator before him. I assume unless he sparks a lot of interest in the next 6 months, he may not be able to raise enough money.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 07:51 AM
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5. I am surprised at this Carson piece.
I thought she was better than that. She uses an old reference to the 2004 campaign to boost Dodd and slam Kerry. How is it possible she hasn't heard about Kerry's speech at Georgetown U that outlines his regrets about the IWR. She is playing games here. I am just so surprised she would stoop to making this ignorant and untrue reference at Kerry's expense. Like you said, this is the work of the Washington insiders. They apparently want to have people believe he is aligned with Hillary in regards to Iraq. I am going to e-mail her the relevant portion of his speech, just so she notices people are paying attention to her comments.
She always was one of the few who offered up support for Kerry in the past even though she leans DLC.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:08 AM
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6. yes, do email her
Edited on Fri May-26-06 10:30 AM by ginnyinWI
I'm surprised at what these Washington pundits get away with. It's as if reality doesn't matter so much as the false narrative that they all agree on. Kerry is frozen in time at November 2004. Some of these people do not get it yet--people have many more news sources now and they are not the be-all-and-end-all of political wisdom!

And smart politicians will know that they can by-pass all these filter-people and get on the internet and into the blogosphere to get their messages out. Times they are a-changin', etc. The smugness of the Washington media is really kind of funny when you look at it that way. I'd like to see some sort of record of how many times they've been right or wrong in their predictions.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:18 AM
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7. Also, there's a risk when they do this with someone as high profile
as Kerry. I assume that the people who read these political analyses are the same people who watch Sunday talk shows or follow the news. Kerry is asked this on almost every show he goes on. I know we follow it more than others- but that Kerry has answered this at least 20 times. At this point, any serious reader knows that. So, it goes to her credibility and the credibility of the press in general.

I find it odd that the Klein uses torture and war crimes and others use a vote that they wroongly mischaracterize as for war to attack John Kerry, who credibility on these issues FAR surpass theirs. In many ways it is a second attempt to swiftboat him - which is disgusting. It does suggest that they really fear his possible ability to win.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 10:38 AM
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8. they want him to go away
It's just not "nice" for a former presidential candidate to still be walking around in the daylight. "Why can't he be like Dole and start doing commercials and looking foolish? Why can't he be a nice guy and go teach at some college somewhere? Fresh faces! We must have fresh faces! Then it will be easier for us to think up something to write about. Darn that Kerry--we already covered him and there just wasn't enough dirt--we had to resort to repeating smears. We must keep him buried or we'll be hard-pressed to come up with new copy--how can we go through another election year with the same old material?" :sarcasm:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:19 AM
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10. I agree with your post, but here's a novel idea
they can find lots of brand new copy simple by deciding to cover him this time.
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