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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:28 PM
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ROLLING STONE: WAS THE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN (COMPLETE ARTICLE)
Compliments of kpete and Robert F. Kennedy!

ROLLING STONE: WAS THE 2004 ELECTION STOLEN (COMPLETE ARTICLE) Updated at 9:05 AM

Was the 2004 Election Stolen?
Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House. BY ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR. Page 1 2 3 4

The complete article, with Web-only citations, follows. For more, see exclusive documents, sources, charts and commentary.

Like many Americans, I spent the evening of the 2004 election watching the returns on television and wondering how the exit polls, which predicted an overwhelming victory for John Kerry, had gotten it so wrong. By midnight, the official tallies showed a decisive lead for George Bush -- and the next day, lacking enough legal evidence to contest the results, Kerry conceded. Republicans derided anyone who expressed doubts about Bush's victory as nut cases in ''tinfoil hats,'' while the national media, with few exceptions, did little to question the validity of the election. The Washington Post immediately dismissed allegations of fraud as ''conspiracy theories,''(1) and The New York Times declared that ''there is no evidence of vote theft or errors on a large scale.''(2)

But despite the media blackout, indications continued to emerge that something deeply troubling had taken place in 2004. Nearly half of the 6 million American voters living abroad(3) never received their ballots -- or received them too late to vote(4) -- after the Pentagon unaccountably shut down a state-of-the-art Web site used to file overseas registrations.(5) A consulting firm called Sproul & Associates, which was hired by the Republican National Committee to register voters in six battleground states,(6) was discovered shredding Democratic registrations.(7) In New Mexico, which was decided by 5,988 votes,(8) malfunctioning machines mysteriously failed to properly register a presidential vote on more than 20,000 ballots.(9) Nationwide, according to the federal commission charged with implementing election reforms, as many as 1 million ballots were spoiled by faulty voting equipment -- roughly one for every 100 cast.(10)

much more at:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/10432334/was_the...
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:46 PM
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1. Thanks for the link.
I can't wait to read it!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:49 PM
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2. It's long but full of fun facts! I hope this gets LOADS of attention! nt
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 01:55 PM
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3. Last I checked
it had 36 recommendations, and rising fast. I'll have to pick up the hard copy tomorrow, or print it out myself, because staring at the computer screen that long will surely make me blind.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:36 PM
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11. Buy hardcopy to send a message. People pay attention when sales shoot up
.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 05:07 PM
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21. I just bought mine
Am looking forward to reading it tonight.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 05:08 PM
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31. blm, your advice is sensational and sound all at once, and I loved
the point & that you posted it for our consideration.

I went out earlier today and got my copy.

I haven't bought an issue of ROLLING STONE since the Civil War, I think, so it was kind of fun.

Not to mention the article is hard-hitting, concise, and extremely readable.

Thanks again for some darn good advice. I'm going to post an endorsement of the RFK Jr. piece on GD-politics and will mention your strategy because it's so right-on.

Now let's throw the Bush administration off the train and put our two Johns in their rightful positions in government!
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:08 PM
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4. I couldn't finish it
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 02:42 PM by paulk
I'll go back later and read the whole thing.

I can't believe how angry revisiting this makes me.

John Kerry was the first person I supported in a primary that actually became the candidate.

I don't just feel like the election was hijacked, I feel like my life was hijacked.



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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:04 PM
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22. me too!
I read the first part of it and already my blood pressure's rising. Tony Blair was told around 8 p.m. that it was a rout--that Kerry would win by at least 309 electoral votes!
:nuke:

I need to take a break before I read the rest! :nuke: :nuke:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:11 PM
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5. Thanks for this. Rolling Stones editorial is posted
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:23 PM
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8. Saw and recommended, and the charts are great! nt
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:16 PM
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23. Every time I drive through those routes on those charts
and see those different areas, I can report the facts. It's actually quite scary.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:33 PM
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24. Ray of light
you were a trooper during those days and after.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:16 PM
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33. waaaaahhhh! (I'm making up for it now by crying.)
(sad but true. I try not to wallow in it.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:14 PM
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6. BOMBARD Kerry's offices with emails and phone calls NOW - they must JUMP
on this even more than they are - exposing corruption is Kerry's STRENGTH and its long past time he work PUBLICLY on this and not just behind the scenes.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:22 PM
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7. I wonder how long Sen. Kerry has known this article was about to
rear its ugly but truthful, necessary head?
is.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:24 PM
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9. Probably awhile - but it's time he work on the issue PUBLICLY.
Get Winer and Parry on this - democracy doesn't happen in a vacuum - you have to fight to rescue it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:29 PM
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10. I agree; we need to hear from him about this. Might shut up a lot of
the naysayers. I'm hoping Kerry has his public statement waiting in the wings; he's usually pretty quick on the responses, though they are on vacation again.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:39 PM
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12. Conyers statement says a lot!
I have learned from BradBlog that Robert Kennedy Jr. has a story in Rolling Stone that he is writing on Diebold and voting machines that will publish online tomorrow and in print form on Friday. I spoke with him awhile back as he was getting started in his investigation. He has been at this for several months and I am looking forward to what he has uncovered.

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000462.htm



I never believed that Kerry should have been the one to personally go chasing down the evidence because the visibility would have hampered efforts to get to the truth. It's great that RFK Jr. did this under the radar.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:42 PM
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13. I agree; I think Kerry played this just right, and it's absolutely
great to have Kennedy as the writer/spreader of truth.
Sadly, I wonder how long it will take them to start swiftboating him, too?:-(
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 03:39 PM
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17. Also Kerry's strong "maybe" is the right answer
when coupled as it was with the comments that they suppressed the vote.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 03:01 PM
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15. I knew it! Senator Kerry, hurry up! ...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:57 PM
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25. maybe, but I'm pessimistic about some of those people.
A few have revised their opinions of JK, but most of them are having too much fun hating him. What can you do. I guess it's their loss. I'd hate to carry that much anger around. Putting my psychology student hat on, I'd say maybe some of them are displacing anger from other things in their lives onto this issue. (ok took it off again--you can come back now. :) )
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 09:26 PM
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26. So odd to hate the cheated, while giving the cheater a pass
Do they have as much anger at Bushco for stealing the election as they do for Kerry?

Oh well, any excuse to dump on Kerry.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 02:43 PM
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14. I wonder that as well.
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 02:44 PM by TayTay
Kennedy's and Kerry's and this, oh my!

Seriously, I agree with blm. Bombard Kerry's office with requests that he ask for and investigation and file that major law suit he talked about in the STephanie Miller interview.

Ahm, he knew. As he said, you don't work that hard and sacrifice that much for the goal of being President and not fight fraud if you can find and verify it. You just don't.

I my tiny way, if I see Sen. Kerry this weekend at the State Conv, I will ask about this.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 04:34 PM
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19. Ask him if he's read the article, and what he thinks of it
We know he's an avid reader. I'm sure he already knows all of this anyway. And if there was proof he could have used in court, he would have used it.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 09:35 PM
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27. I'm with blm and Tay.
I'll write the Senator, too, and urge him to respond.
God, if this is painful for us, imagine what it's like for him.
Still, he should say something about the piece. He has to have read it.

Thank you, RFK Jr.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 10:55 PM
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28. I agree too!
I'm so angry. I want to cry, but I'm ready and eager for justice. I will write too!
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 03:11 PM
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16. this is absolutely horrible
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 03:11 PM by LevensonK
Of course I have always been one of those who firmly believe the election was stolen (again), but to read it in detail, read about all the blatant fraud and cover-up by the media and pollsters......it makes me sick to my stomach.
I just re-lived that entire election night again - the joy and relief that turned to anger and disgust.
SOMEONE (Kerry!!) better do SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 04:31 PM
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18. I just finally finished reading the article
I couldn't wait to get it at the store tomorrow. And I am stunned, saddened, and pissed off beyond belief. :wow: :cry: :nuke:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 05:06 PM
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20. Amazing! AT LAST someone "highly visible" says an Elephant in Room...
...a falsely-elected one. 'The Emperor has no clothes'...AT LAST!

The placement of article, the quality of research and writing, and author hopefully will TRULY re-open this to the wider-public. The timing is also perfect.

Kudos to RFK, Jr. for his courage and efforts of this article.

Kick and recommend!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 12:24 AM
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29. We say "Bush stole the election", but...
Bush didn't steal it. Many, many Republicans, separately or in groups, were willing to steal it FOR him. This is important, because when he's gone, they will still be around, waiting to do it again. Our election system is broken in so many, many ways.

Which raises the question: does the chimp even know he didn't really win the second time around either? It stands to reason that they wouldn't bother him about the "details".
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:14 AM
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30. My opinion:
He knows. From the SC decision in 2000, to the 20002 phone jamming where calls were being made to the WH, to Ken Blackwell's letter (remember those trips Bush and Cheney made to Ohio?), the Swift Liars, all the talk about the machines all the pre- and post-election activities to try to ensure a fair vote, he would have had to have been on another planet not to know. Rove knows, Bush knows.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 06:07 PM
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32. When I watched this on PBS
I knew they had played every trick in the book to take it away from Kerry. Rove was behind it all. He pulled out his few last tricks when the polls showed Kerry was the clear winner, the piece doesn't say that, but it so easy to figure it out after watching.

Karl Rove "The Architect"

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/view/


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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-02-06 09:11 PM
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34. Agreed - this is typical Bush Operating Procedure
So many forget that Bush worshiped Lee Atwater and was a nasty little Rove-like political operative as well.
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