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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 03:14 PM
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Frist, McConnell and all the rest can BITE ME!
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 03:17 PM by TayTay
Geez, I had a travel day and the slime oozed up out of the sewers of Congress and attacked. WTF? Frist had McConnell call up Sen. Kerry's amendment on withdrawal without Kerry's approval?

Frist and McConnell. I wipe better shit than them off my shoes. Motherfucking piece of shit dirtbag bastids. I hope they fry in hell. (I got home in time to see McCain attempting to talk 'sense' on the floor and I am not buying his act either. He enables the rest of them and won't even stand up for 'a friend.' Friggin Bastid.)
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 03:23 PM
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1. Our collective sentiments
Motherfucking piece of shit dirtbag bastids. I hope they fry in hell. Added by a Frist voodoo doll that DD stabbed the shit out of. That shit belongs on the putrid white shoes Frist is wearing today.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 03:46 PM
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2. Check this out -- it wasn't Kerry's amendment
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 03:50 PM by ProSense
The Senate voted unfolded unexpectedly as the second-ranking leader, Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., introduced legislation he said was taken from a proposal by Sen. John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat and war critic. It called for Bush to agree with the Iraqi government on a schedule for withdrawal of combat troops by Dec. 31, 2006.

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said if the United States withdrew, "I am absolutely convinced the terrorists would see this as vindication." He predicted terrorism would spread around the world, and eventually reach the United States.

Democrats sought to curtail floor debate on the proposal, and the vote occurred quickly.

Kerry and other Democrats accused Republicans of political gamesmanship, and promised an authentic debate next week. He and five other Democrats were in the minority on the vote — Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, Barbara Boxer of California, Robert Byrd of West Virginia, Tom Harkin of Iowa, and Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts.

more...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060615/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:10 PM
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3. NYT: Kerry amendment still being worked out
Senate Rejects Plan to Withdraw Troops From Iraq

By DAVID STOUT and JOHN HOLUSHA
Published: June 15, 2006
WASHINGTON, June 15 — The Senate overwhelmingly rejected a call this afternoon for withdrawal of most American combat troops from Iraq by the end of the year as the debate in both houses of Congress mixed high emotion with calculated maneuvering.The 93-to-6 vote came after a maneuver by Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the second-ranking Republican, who introduced a measure that he said was taken from a proposal by Senator John Kerry, Democrat of Massachusetts, calling for President Bush to agree with the new Iraqi government on a timetable to withdraw most troops by Dec. 31.

Mr. Kerry has not yet offered his own measure because, he said, language is still being worked out. He and other Democrats accused Republicans of gamesmanship by engineering a surprise vote today, according to The Associated Press, and said they would push for an authentic debate next week. The vote today was to table a proposal that only those forces essential to completing the mission of "standing up" the Iraqi security forces remain in the country in 2007, and it reflected a deep reluctance in both parties to commit to a firm withdrawal schedule.

The six "no" votes were cast by Senators Kerry and Edward M. Kennedy, also of Massachusetts; Russell D. Feingold of Wisconsin, Barbara Boxer of California, Tom Harkin of Iowa and Robert C. Byrd of West Virginia, all Democrats.

The Senate debate coincided with a heated House debate, both coming just five months before Congressional elections as each party tried to find a winning position on a lengthy and increasingly unpopular war.

more...

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/15/washington/15cnd-cong.html
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:01 PM
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12. Holy shit, they voted Aye for this?
The vote today was to table a proposal that only those forces essential to completing the mission of "standing up" the Iraqi security forces remain in the country in 2007...

WTF? This is even worse. Do they want more troops in there than we need to complete the mission of "standing up" the Iraqi security forces? Did Biden and Clinton and Feinstein et al read the friggin thing at all? Do they really want more troops in there than we need to complete the mission?

This is friggin insane. What the hell were they thinking. This doesn't even pass the barely retarded bar. I am disgusted. Who votes to leave more troops in there than we absolutely need? Morons.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:08 PM
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13. Strange isn't it - I think this is what BUSH said we had to do
Their lack of courage is amazing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 10:17 PM
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14. Really!
Edited on Thu Jun-15-06 10:18 PM by ProSense
That's just asinine!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:12 PM
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4. Can you stand this crap?
Nothing but a trick. You have got to know that Rove was behind it. It smells to high heaven like a Rove trick. Force the Dem's hand before they are ready and no matter what the outcome use it against them in the future.
These slim balls haven't even stopped to think about what they are saying in opposition to withdrawing our troops. It is a new twist on the old, "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them overhere" baloney. How convenient it is that the Repubs don't mention that most of the fighting is sectarian in nature. Well,there they go again, misleading the public and trying to make them believe all the fighting and killing in Iraq is being done by the insurgency. The Repubs even think they know more than the Iraqi leadership who are calling for a timetable for withdrawl our troops. You got to wonder whose country this really is-and who really is running it. If they want us to go and we don't,doesn't that make us an unwelcome occupying force.
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:36 PM
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5. they're still underhanded pieces of shit
Even if it wasn't Kerry's amendment, it brought up the subject of withdrawal and may have weakened Sen. Kerry's position when he introduces the real thing.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:46 PM
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6. I was frantically searching for clarification that I forgot to
agree with Fedup and Tay:

Motherfucking piece of shit dirtbag bastids. I hope they fry in hell.


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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:51 PM
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7. This is pretty much the same thing they did to Murtha when he was
going to put in an amendment to bring the troops home. They forced a quick vote before anyone was ready and effectively torpedoed it before there could be any reasonable debate. Remember how much controversy that caused?

SAME crap. Different day.

And wasn't Kerry at a funeral today? Wasn't that where he was when they started this crap or am I getting my dates mixed up?

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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 04:57 PM
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8. Dates mixed up
it was yesterday. But, that is probably one of the reasons he was still negotiating with others since he wasn't there yesterday. Now Warner was not there when McConnell and Frist pulled their stunt, and that is why he said what he did.
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 05:30 PM
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9. Right...today is Thursday. Duh!
They KNEW he was busy today because this ploy was carefully orchestrated to be done behind Senator Kerry's back. What's with these cowards anyhow? They only attack your back. Remember when Allard attacked Kerry when he was in a committee meeting?

I'm so disgusted. This has Rove all over it. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this wasn't his strike back for the PPO comment and statement by David Wade. I'd bet my bottom dollar Frist and Rove talked very recently.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:47 PM
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11. It could work the other way too
I know I'm going to call my Senators - I would have though Lautenberg would vote No. If others respond as I did - it may move more Senators. Kerry, himself, didn't think it would win as he had said to the LA bloggers (I think) that he wasn't sure he could get his own caucus behind him.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-15-06 06:31 PM
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10. I'm gonna go vote them down on that web site.
What jerks. The thing that makes me maddest is that they likely know there's a good chance that if the election was clean, Kerry would be President. Their disrespect is pathetic. I hope Kerry ignores any smears McCain gets when he runs - but Kerry possibly will still come to his defense.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:01 AM
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15. Floor transcript segment of JK during this mess
is here - http://blog.thedemocraticdaily.com/?p=3325

copy of playbook in the links
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:23 AM
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16. Thanks for the details -- warrants a dkos diary
In all this, btw, we see that McCain is a real ass, too with his stupid "moment" obsession.

I'm not in a position to do this, as I'm caring for my kids, and can't sit down and put together a diary, but this story was MADE for dailykos -- with a LOT of outrage in it, which is a powerful diary writing style on that site. It should include everything in KG's post plus a reference to the House bill (maybe link it to Bill in Portland, Maine's diary "Abstain") as well as Tay Tay's picture of the Vietnam Wall with Kerry's quote. I wish I could do it, but my 3 year old won't allow that :).

If you build it (whoever has time and enough outrage in them), I will come and rec and comment.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:43 AM
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18. I will write up a DKos diary later on today
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 11:44 AM by TayTay
and throw all the relevant info in. (Errands to do, sigh!)

Thanks for the suggestion. The pic and the info and the quote from Sen. Kerry will go in as well. That just absolu=friggin-lutely takes me out, btw. I can barely move when I con sider the ramifications of why Kerry is saying in that statement. It just takes me out.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:58 AM
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19. Thanks, Tay!!
As my kids get older and are at school, I'll be able to do more of the heavy lifting around here (It takes at least an hour, I think, to put together a good dKos diary, if not longer and more importantly, FULL CONCENTRATION). I can do commenting, recs, posts at DU, LTEs on occasion, and e-mails to pundits. But am I the only one who finds the diary system at Kos user-unfriendly?

Do you have an estimated time it will appear, because I'll be sure to go over there at around that time. Thanks!!

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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:19 PM
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22. Awesome! Thanks!
I'm working on 2 more pieces for the Dem Daily and a debunking of the rightwing nutjobs who are tieing JK's Iraq plan to swifty attacks.

There's a whole lot of right wing blogs floating so much crap it's not good. We need to counter this stuff in as many places as possible.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 11:43 AM
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17. KG, One of your commenters had a link to a Kerry post on the Hill blog
Edited on Fri Jun-16-06 11:45 AM by karynnj
(I hope it's ok to steal the link and the text as it's a great post and I haven't seen it on DU.)

Link:
http://blog.thehill.com/2006/06/15/reiraq-troop-withdrawal-it%e2%80%99s-time-for-iraqis-to-stand-up-for-iraq/

Want to win the war on terror? Want to deal with Iran’s nuclear threat? Want to stop the Taliban from retaking Afghanistan? Want to stop Al Qaeda’s new beachhead in Somalia? I sure as hell do. I’m tired of a national security game of half measures where the same people who took their boots off Osama bin Laden’s neck at Tora Bora when he was cornered, now think we have to stay bogged down in Iraq forever and leave these growing threats unaddressed.

Our enemies are thrilled we’re bogged down in Iraq. But we have a choice. It’s time to redeploy for victory in the war on terror. It’s time for Iraqis to stand up for Iraq. We know the verdict of our generals: the war cannot be won militarily; the only way forward is a political settlement. We need to listen to Gen. George Casey, the U.S. military commander in Iraq, who argued that our large military presence “extends the amount of time that it will take for Iraqi security forces to become self-reliant.” To make Iraq self-reliant, we need hard and fast deadlines, not an open-ended commitment of U.S. forces. Our troops have done their job in Iraq. It’s time for Iraqis to stand up for Iraq



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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:02 PM
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20. That's fascinating.
I'd never read the Hill blog before.

Did you see this?

    The Hill's Congress Blog has been built as a forum for elected government officials, staff and selected policy experts to exchange ideas. Comments by others will rarely be posted on the blog but some will be published as letters in The Hill newspaper, which can also be read at thehill.com.


There's one comment to Kerry's post, and it's from Cornyn.

    1.

    Maj. Gen. William Caldwell’s announcement regarding recent raids on terrorist insurgents is another sign of our military’s success in finding and killing terrorists. Congress is now debating a very clear choice: to continue that success, or leave Iraq in the heat of the battle—before victory is achieved. It’s never been clearer: When your boot is on your enemy’s neck, it’s not the time to quit.

    Comment by Texas GOP Sen. John Cornyn — June 15, 2006 @ 5:08 pm


What a waste of perfectly good oxygen these repugs are. They sure aren't using it to power their brains, anyway.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:20 PM
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23. Cornyn commented?
Wonder if it's real?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:29 PM
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24. You have to enter an email address
to be verified, and they basically only print comments from members of congress and staff.

    The Hill's Congress Blog has been built as a forum for elected government officials, staff and selected policy experts to exchange ideas. Comments by others will rarely be posted on the blog but some will be published as letters in The Hill newspaper, which can also be read at thehill.com.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:32 PM
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25. ahh...
Seems as the folks on the Hill are getting more saavy everyday. Interesting...
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-16-06 12:16 PM
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21. Dr Ron posted it on Dem Daily too
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