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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:02 AM
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I don't know, I think I need a virtual drinking game today
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 09:04 AM by TayTay
Since I don't actually drink more than 2 or 3 times a year, it will have to be a virtual drinking game. The Senate debate today should be just awful. Allen, Sessions, Allard, Inhofe and others are just going to tee off on the 'cut and run' lie in the Senate today. Sigh!

I think I will keep a tab today and 'drink' everytime a Rethug takes a swipe at the Kerry Amendment or at Sen. Kerry. I should be 'virtually' reeling by around 1:00 pm today.

Sigh! It's shitstorm day in the Senate.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:07 AM
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1. And, of course, he will receive no backing from his party
because he dared to take a principled stand that they were afraid of.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:28 AM
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2. Pretty sad
sadder is if all the pundits bemoaning how weak the Democrats are and how they never take principled stands pile on.

The good news is that we've actually seen Kerry's rebuttal since April 22 - he was absolutely clear that he could not be one of those who stays quiet when the policy is wrong. It is unbelievably strange that the 2004 candidate may be a populist protest leader moving public opinion. I wonder if the MSM will ever accept, even if not publicly, their guilt in coverage of 2004.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:32 AM
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4. Speaking of that guilt,
Don't miss this article by Eric Boehlert in the Washington Monthly on The Note: Shill Wind.

All of Washington's political reporters read ABC's The Note. That's why they keep missing the story.

By Eric Boehlert


...The first thing you notice about The Note is that it sounds like it's written by high school students. Smart high school students--really smart students, even--but nevertheless teenagers who crack themselves up with their wit, rely on hard-to-decipher references to up their hip insider quotient, and have a penchant for words like "ginormous" and multiple exclamation points. Cutesy, creepy, and relentlessly effusive towards the media elite, The Note confirms the old adage that life really is like high school, with The Note filling the role of cheerleader-meets-yearbook editor, keeping tabs on where the cool kids are eating lunch, what they're wearing, and who's having the big party this weekend. In The Note's eyes, Beltway reporters are wonderfully talented, and everyone deserves a raise (e.g., "Will New York Times management recognize how great Anne Kornblut is and act accordingly?")...

...By now, over a year into a second Bush term with almost three more to go, the consequences of media blindness and timidity--and the role of outlets like The Note in perpetuating it--have become clear enough. Counteracting it, however, is a different matter. Clearly, he-said, she-said conventions of reporting are inadequate when "he-said" is fact and "she-said" is fiction. And allowing the loudest partisans to set the parameters of debate can result in a very skewed view of left and right. Coming up with a remedy won't be easy. Meanwhile, though, journalists looking for guidance might want to cut down on The Note and think about whether it really plugs them in or simply perpetuates the problem. Sure, The Note is an indispensable guide to the chatter of the GOP. This has been interesting and helpful for the Gang of 500. It just hasn't done much good for the rest of us.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:40 AM
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8. maybe a few principled people will, but I don't hold out much
hope for the large majority.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:40 AM
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5. That is very sad.
I saw Sen. Reid on the floor last night and he would only barely acknowledge Sen. Kerry. (And KErry was on the floor at the time.) Gawd, how awful when a principled stand gets attacked because it is just an inconvenient principle at this time.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:49 AM
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10. An MSNBC article pitts the two against each other, calling them
both party leaders.

Democratic fissures in Senate's Iraq debate
Competing proposals pit party leaders Reid and Kerry

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13456702/

Is this possibly a tug of war between the roots and the DLC for party direction? If it is, I wish there was some way to compromise. The DLC just wants total control. Still, I fully support Kerry and believe at some point he will be vindicated. The others, I have lost some respect for, not because they don't agree with Kerry's plan,but because of the treatment.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:12 PM
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16. This is a fairer article than most
It does give Kerry and Feingold respect and mention that their efforts preceded Reid's.

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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:30 PM
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18. True, but after the horrible NYT piece, everything else seems fair
and balanced.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:29 AM
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3. I'm at work,
but I need a real drinking game. And I hardly ever drink, either.

I don't know who I hate more today, Sessions (whose every word I can predict before it exits his mouth) or the smarmy, unctuous and self-promoting Joe Biden.

I think it might be a boon to mankind if I drank today.

Barring that, I'll be hitting the Calms Forte. HARD.



BTW, anyone else having trouble with the c-span feed? Mine keeps cutting out. That may be a good thing, in the non-exploding head sense.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:42 AM
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9. My feed
works fine
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:58 AM
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12. Mine started out rocky,
but it's ok now.

Now I just wish I wasn't able to hear what I'm hearing. John Warner? He may be a gentleman, but he's full of shit.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:55 AM
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6. maybe the dems will see how people like the "Lie and Die" and
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 09:56 AM by ray of light
say it right back at them.

LIE AND DIE COURSE IS NO PLAN!

CHANGE AND SUCCEED IS!
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:37 AM
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7. I hear ya, I'm about mid-way into a nervous breakdown just trying to
keep my head from exploding.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 11:56 AM
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11. To quote T. Paine, "These are the times that try men's souls". n/t
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Blaukraut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:00 PM
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13. Seriously!
What the hell is going on? It must be the summer heat frying the already overheated rethug brains in congress. Give 'em some koolaid, for pete's sake! :beer:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:02 PM
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14. Warner is making me sick.
Shorter Warner: We have to keep US soldiers in harm's way to justify the deaths of the other 2500+ soldiers.

Nice reasoning. :sarcasm:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:11 PM
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15. Sigh! As Sen. Kerry said last week:
War is no reason for it's own perpetuation.

Sigh!

Warner is also using the two soldiers who were captured, tortured and murdered to justify keeping troops there. How disgusting. He is also playing the patriot card. How predictable.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 12:13 PM
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17. I used to think Warner was saner than others
Warner is now speaking. He is saying that the Reid one has a timeline - because it calls on Bush to develop one by the end of 2006. Warner is crazy he just said we are building a magnificent country that will be the envy of the area. He also said they have sovereinty for the first time in a very very long time. (Uhm ... since we invaded.) He also said that rather than a timeline for our military we need a time table for the Iraqis to get their country together, (Can he read? What did he think Kerry was speaking about?)

But we can't leave because we have the momentum:

- we killed Zarqarwi - (which Murtha and Kerry both pointed out was still the type of thing we could do when out of there.

- Bush met with Malecki - such an accomplishment

- more Al Qaeda raids - still could be done


He also seems to think that the President as CIC has sole responsibility and the military counsels them. He says one of Levin's paragraphs USURPTs some of the CIC's power.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:20 PM
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20. They all have gotten their new secrete talking point revised to include
attacks on Kerry.
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demdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 01:04 PM
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19. Chug an entire beer everytime Santorum works
beastiality into a floor debate
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