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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:06 AM
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How the Bush Administration destroyed any chance for peace in Iraq
We've been talking about this on another thread, but I am so outraged I want this prominently on our forum here, so that we know that all Bush wants and loves is war, and what Iraq is about is oil and permanent bases. He doesn't give a damn about democracy or the sovereignty of the government there. Had he, then he wouldn't have torpedoed a plan that may have had a chance of working in Iraq. As Karynnj mentioned in the other thread, Bush and the Sunni insurgents killed the peace plan together. All they love is violence as it serves them well to stay in power. Here is the awful truth, per the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/26/world/middleeast/26iraq.html?_r=1&oref=login

Mr. Maliki's plan, intended to reduce insurgent attacks through dialogue and amnesty, was weeks in the making, with all of Iraq's religious and ethnic political blocs participating. He opted for a version that did not stake out any new ground, but simply repackaged previous pronouncements. The decision appeared to have been influenced by religious Shiites who form his base and by the American military command.

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Another point that Sunni Arabs say needs to be addressed is how long American troops will remain in Iraq. They say insurgents are looking for a timetable for withdrawal.

Mr. Khalilzad said he and the American commander in Iraq, Gen. George W. Casey Jr., would began talks with the Iraqis in the coming weeks on the topic, but reiterated that any reduction would depend on progress in Iraq. "We will adjust our forces, but we'll do it based on conditions, and the condition is that Iraqis can take care of themselves," he said. "The next five to six months are critical for this government."


When the Sunni insurgents rejected the plan on Saturday, they listed some demands of their own. At that point, it was not the end of negotiations but the beginning. However, now that the teeth from the Iraq Peace Plan have been deleted, I fear that peace negotiations are dead. The Americans are JUST AS responsible for the death of peace in Iraq as the Sunni insurgents, and I will NOT forgive them for this any time soon.

So when you watch the news and hear about the nonstop carnage of American troops and Iraqis, know that there was a way out of this, but the Bush administration chose NOT to do so. I can only surmise that war is what they love, and peace is what they fear the most.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:22 AM
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1. Also posted on GD
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:39 AM
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2. The Bush administration consistently
refused to do the diplomacy. What's amazing is that from Kerry to Casey to Khliazhad, everyone really working on the problem has said that a political solution is the only thing that can resolve this. You are correct that the Sunni rejection should have led to continued negotiations - there is no other sane solution. Stopping the negotiations on the political solution, leaves only military solutions - which everyone says won't work.

Even though Kerry is getting everything but the kitchen sink thrown at him, I am glad he and Feingold had the courage and the concern to do the work of trying to develop a real plan that would facilitate a solution rather than avoid one.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:40 AM
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3. Personally I feel they never really cared about Iraq, only what being
there could gain them in the way of power, positioning and oil.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 09:45 AM
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4. I believe
more and more everyday, that they never wanted peace. They went into this without a plan for peace, you don't go to war without a plan to win the peace. They meaning the neocons and chickenhawks thought they could go in and take control, all for oil and their business buddies.

As one business person said "good for business, bad for the people". Thats all it is about, power and money. Our troops deserve better, we deserve better, when will the whole of this country wake up to the insanity of the Bush administration.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:48 PM
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5. Sunnis in power, or just insurgents?
I feel like most of the fighting is Iran and Hamas using Iraq as a battlefield. The fighters are Iraqis, but they're being manipulated by these outside groups. I don't for one second believe that the Shiite militants would be any more accommodating if they didn't have majority power in Iraq. That's why I think it's so important to pull our troops off the frontline, take away the excuse they're using to fight. Once people recognize that it really is their own ME fight, then maybe citizens will start rising up to demand that the violence stops. It will also be clear that there has to be a real ME summit to resolve Sunni-Shiite animosity so the fighting doesn't escalate.

I can't understand how the neocons could have thought it was a good idea to open up that power keg.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:53 PM
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6. Exactly. And the smarter Iraqis have figured out that it is
foreign forces (American, Iranian, and Wahabbis (al Qaeda)) that have created conditions that feed the violence. Iraqi blogger The Kid has gone so far as to call the U.S. "anti-terrorist divide and conquer Americans". It doesn't matter if there was an intent to divide or not; the fact is the Americans came in dividing the populace into the three groups, including the political parties, and surprise surprise, there's a civil war.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:07 PM
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7. Bush has been slow to the draw!
If he had moved quickly to restore services and order, the occupation wouldn't have dragged on. In six months, it will have been three years since Saddam's capture.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:24 PM
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8. OMG! Now Hotline (National Journal is trying to spin withdrawal)
Also today, Democrats will conduct a show hearing into pre-war intel. Witnesses include ex-Powell CoS Larry Wilkerson, ex-Iraq Survey Group adviser Rod Barton (who will testify about politics intruding into the ISG's work), and ex-CIA senior intelligence officer Paul Piller.

The Republicans start out the week on the defensive, at least slightly. Instead of advancing the theme that Democrats are cutting and running, they were forced to explain how Gen. Casey's withdrawal scenario differed from John Kerry's. (There is a distinction: Casey was presenting a workable plan to draw down troops provided specific conditions on the ground are met; the calendar he unveils is secondary. In theory.)

A new ABC News/Washington Poll suggests that American reservations to a timetable-based troop withdrawal are softening, but 51 percent still oppose a date certain; 47 percent support it.

The GOP takes comfort from their own polls showing that independents have more qualms about a calendar-pegged withdrawal, and the Post/ABC poll finds that 44 percent of them "support a deadline for withdrawing troops."


http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2006/06/post_21.html



The Hillary crew!
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:41 PM
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9. I thought it was 53% for withdrawal. Explain the Hillary crew, please.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 02:47 PM
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10. Hotline blog
loves Hillary! Very centrist crew. I read a lot of very pro Hillary stuff there. JMO
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