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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 12:09 AM
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this study about Mental illness just pissed me off.
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 12:17 AM by undergroundpanther
't Thismal where the Nimby impulse originates in parents..Bigotry and ignorance passed from parent to child keeps this shit going..

Almost 30 percent of the 1,134 participants said they would not like their child to become friends of a child with depression, and almost one in four said the same thing about ADHD. Roughly 20 percent said they did not want a child with either ADHD or depression living next door. But when asked about friendship with children with ”normal troubles” and asthma symptoms, negative responses dropped to 10 percent or less in all categories.

aren’t as concerned, however, if a child with mental illness is in the same class as their child or if a child with mental illness moved into their neighborhood,” Martin said. “This study suggests that a large number of Americans just don’t want their kids to be spending time with other kids suffering from ADHD or depression.”

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070320110106.htm

Yeah,what this says is parents fear thier child interacting with depressed kids. What this means is parents don't think socially socially isolating the depressed kid hurts the depressed kid..As long as THIER CHILD isn't tainted..That bigotry is a Surefire way to make sure depressed or adhd kids will be bullied because kids detect rejection like radars and come to feast on the wounded like sharks..and because of bigotry a depressed kid may possibly die faster.

Hmm I was a depressed ADHD kid and everyone for reasons I still can't figure out hated me in my miserable excuse for a town..Yet nobodies parents told thier kids to avoid socializing with the toxic little wankers hellbent on bullying me to death.Fancy that. Wish those dumb assa writers of this study included shit-head types of personalities like narcissism ,Sociopathy or authoritarians. I bet that would have offended some of the parents,too close to home I guess.

Sometimes parenting humans truly disgust me witheirier misguided protection THEIR child, a misguided bigotry that sometimes costs other children in ways the ignorant and good intentioned can never realize while they are paving the way to hell to protect the property sprung from their loins.. Ownership mentality gone rancid..When will people stop the selfish crap step outside their OWN nuclear family concerns and that chicken yard pecking order and THINK.


What will the nervous little mommies do when statistics say 1 in 2 kids get mentally ill? With the way traumas ,stress ,pollutants, body burden and contamination is increasing ,and a new diagnosis being invented every other week..it won't be long until avoiding mental illness is as futile as avoiding air..The Monkey sphere mentality wins again.Humans are pathetic.


The primary difference is that monkeys are happy to stay in small groups and rarely interact with others outside their monkey gang. This is why they rarely go to war, though when they do it is widely thought to be hilarious. Humans, however, require cars and oil and quality manufactured goods by the fine folks at 3M and Japanese video games and worldwide internets and, most importantly, governments. All of these things take groups larger than 150 people to maintain effectively. Thus, we routinely find ourselves functioning in bunches larger than our primate brains are able to cope with.

This is where the problems begin. Like a fragile naked human pyramid, we are simultaneously supporting and resenting each other. We bitch out loud about our soul-sucking job as an anonymous face on an assembly line, while at the exact same time riding in a car that only an assembly line could have produced. It's a constant contradiction that has left us pissed off and joining informal wrestling clubs in basements.

This is why I think it was with a great burden of sadness that Darwin turned to his assistant and lamented, "Jeje, we're the monkeys."
http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/monkeysphere2.html
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:53 AM
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1. Despite recent progress Mental Illness still has a stigma in this country
As someone who suffers from depression, and has a manic-depressive relative I have seen it. But there also seems to be more of a level of acceptance (in adults perhaps) on depression- anything else and its still the "crazy" label. I have a friend who has an undiagnosed Mental Health issue that is NOT depression, and because of the bigotry and hatred of the topic of mental illness in HIS OWN FAMILY has had to struggle with it in secrecy. And I am sure if some of my friends/family knew I was associating with someone with "issues" as they so put it these days, they would be horrified. Mental Health is a complex problem and people tend to fear what they don't understand. I think a lot of these parents are afraid on some level that their children will "catch" one of these issues. We talk about how messed up health care is in this country but its way better than the system we have right now for the Mentally ill. The blame the victim attitude towards depression, ADHD, and all the other problems needs to stop.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:58 AM
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2. True story : Depression runs rampant in my family, and we've been very
open in discussing it. I felt that the more the kids knew about my illness, the better off they would be. That was wise, because several of them developed depression and they were able to ask for and get help. Now for the true story part:

A girl my son and daughter knew in high school was severely depressed and drinking. They confronted her and told her they'd help, but if she kept drinking they'd cut her off. She got the help she needed, stopped drinking and is doing well. Open discussion of mental health issues helped them save a life.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:30 PM
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3. "Land of the Brave," my ass. This is a nation of fearful cowards.
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 01:33 PM by hunter
If adults can be scared of a little kids suffering ADD & depression... geez.

This nation might collapse if you snuck up behind it and said "Boo!"

Maybe it is collapsing.

video of fainting goats: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=588849979264557085

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:50 PM
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4. No kidding, hunter. When I tried to tell Doug's friends that
since our separation, he was going to need support, what they heard was something completely different.

They heard me attacking him instead of describing needs They heard me wishing him ill instead of sharing my experience They acted like I was suddenly speaking in Old Low Norse and they went silent.

Defensive filters -- that seem to be employed to filter out their own cR@P! about mental illness. It made me very sad. They seemed to want to be friends with their version of Doug but not with the actual Doug.

:mad:
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:58 PM
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5. Disgusting attitudes.
You would think that parents today would not hold the bigotry against mental illness that parents in previous generations held.

Having witnessed the abuses that occur in the mental health system in my state, I can come to no conclusion but that no one is immune to holding such attitudes against the mentally ill, including people who charged with helping the mentally ill.

What I've seen in the past month, as it concerns a loved one's treatment at the hands of the "system", will leave a bitter taste in my mouth for the rest of my life.

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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:41 PM
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6. The system
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 09:46 PM by undergroundpanther
re-traumatized the living SHIT out of me. I am really wary of shrinks that push and control.I can't deal with blank white rooms or having my upper arms touched years after being locked up.I spent 18 months in solitary and let me tell you it makes you crazy being in a room that long.Sheet packs ,5 point restraints everything their arsenal of sadistic control can think up and all those devices.(to escape a straight jacket dislocate one shoulder) I still freak if some nurse pulls out a loaded syringe and does not answer me when I ask what it is and what it's for.

I have gone through the most insipid behavior mods and all sorts of stupid 'therapeutic' bullshit but they did not break me they only made me hate and mistrust them more.I cannot tolerate a shrink that is patronizing ,tries to tell me how I should feel,or is dishonest or controlling it triggers me.
I got a good one now but I still don't trust her I've been in therapy over a year a with her.Been subjected to too many psychopaths posing as staff.That is why I help out with organizations like on our own and mind freedom.
I don't trust the state,and I don't trust most of psychiatry. It is for good reason.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:00 PM
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7. I'm with you, UP. I've met too many Spaniards. n/t
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