Great song re: Deathly Hallows posted on YouTube. Note this was posted before the book came out..

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Great song re: Deathly Hallows posted on YouTube. Note this was posted before the book came out..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvvFiZyEyTA&NR=1

On July 18, 2007. The book came out July 21, 2007.

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CBHagman

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Sat Sep-08-07 06:26 PM
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1. Okay, I'm finally watching it now.

I take it HP fans know there's an insane quantity of related videos on YouTube, including an entire Snape subculture of thoughts. Who knew?

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Matilda

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Sun Sep-09-07 02:24 AM
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2. Interesting pronunciation of "Accio" (as "ak-see-o").

Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 02:25 AM by Matilda

I did some googling to check pronunciation, and the correct Latin is
"Akk-ee-o", and as Jo Rowling's spells are all based on Latin, I guess
that would be correct. I believe the audio books say "Ass-ee-o", but
I've never listened to them.

While I was checking I found a site for Magdalen College, Oxford,
advertising a conference being held next year for academics to discuss
Harry Potter: "From Quidditch Flyers to Dreaming Spires - Exploring the
Worldwide Influence of the Harry Potter Novels".

http://www.accio.org.uk/

If it's good enough for Oxford, it's good enough for me - we're not
deranged after all.

Edit to add link.

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Matilda

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Sat Sep-15-07 05:43 AM
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3. I know nobody really cares,

Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 06:42 AM by Matilda

but this bothered me, because in my head I always heard "Accio" as
"ACH-eeo". Finally found an old Latin grammar, and sure enough, before
an "i", that's how the double-c would be pronounced. Both the audio
books and this song are incorrect, as was the first site on Latin
pronunciation I found.

As I said, nobody really cares, but if anyone wants to try the spell,
that's how it's said.

Edit: clarity

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CBHagman

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Sat Sep-15-07 09:19 AM
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4. Well, you know the student's lament.

Edited on Sat Sep-15-07 09:24 AM by CBHagman

"Latin is a dead language, dead as it can be.
First it killed the Romans, and now it's killing me." :rofl:

Frankly, though, I'm always ready to talk about Harry Potter and anything related, including Latin. The word "patronus" actually came up in news analysis this week in the States thanks to Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, who was covering General David Petraeus's testimony on Iraq. Harry Potter was not mentioned.

On edit: It occurs to me that Milbank was wide of the mark by mentioning "patronus," as that wouldn't be related to "Petraeus," linguistically speaking.

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Matilda

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Sat Sep-15-07 09:37 AM
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5. How nice of you to reply!

I didn't think anyone would, but I couldn't let an error go by without
acknowledgment.

My Latin is terribly rusty, but it's a subject I used to enjoy at school,
and I love the way Rowling adapted it in the Potter books.

How on earth did "Patronus" come into a critique of Gen. Petraeus's
speech?

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CBHagman

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Sat Sep-15-07 03:39 PM
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6. Well, it was something of a stretch.

Dana Milbank (who also shows up at times Keith Olbermann's Countdown on MSNBC) publishes rather snarky political analysis on page 2 of The Washington Post several days a week. Here's what he wrote on Petraeus:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/10/AR2007091002213.html

The best historical analogue for Gen. David Petraeus's appearance before Congress yesterday might be found in the days of the Roman Republic.

Then, returning generals wearing laurel wreaths and purple robes and riding in chariots were greeted at the city gate by senators and led through a "Triumph" ceremony that included trumpeters and the slaying of white bulls.

There were no animal sacrifices in the Cannon Caucus Room yesterday, but Petraeus -- even the name is a felicitous echo of the Latin "patronus" (protector) -- enjoyed the modern equivalent: Taking his place on a raised platform in the middle of the room, the general, with four stars on each shoulder and a chest full of ribbons, was surrounded by more than 50 cameras and lawmakers lining up to pay respects.

I guess our Dana has forgotten his schoolboy Latin and Greek, assuming those two subjects were in the curriculum, because Petraeus is from the Greek for "rock," if I'm not mistaken.

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XemaSab

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Sat Sep-15-07 04:40 PM
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7. The Latin's petra,

the Greek is petros.

According to the internets, his dad was a Dutch sea captain named "Sixtus." :shrug:

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CBHagman

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Sat Sep-15-07 05:12 PM
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8. Obviously a Slytherin!

Nah, just kidding.

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Matilda

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Sat Sep-15-07 08:16 PM
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9. "Petra" is used in both Latin and ancient Greek

to mean "rock". In Greek "petra" is a big rock, or foundation stone,
and is a feminine noun, and "petros" is a small rock or stone and is
masculine. In Latin "petra" is feminine and means "rock" or "stone".
There's no masculine version in Latin, but after the introduction of
Christianity, the name "Petrus" was invented as a boy's name, obviously
from St. Peter (Petros).

I just learned all this in the last hour.

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